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Post by Stellar on Oct 19, 2021 10:51:25 GMT 10
All linked. Yay!
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Post by matte on Oct 19, 2021 11:02:57 GMT 10
All linked. Yay! Hopefully you won't have to show it.
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Post by Stellar on Oct 19, 2021 11:13:54 GMT 10
Why? Seeing as that's the only way we're going to get into all these venues.
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Post by matte on Oct 19, 2021 11:23:07 GMT 10
Why? Seeing as that's the only way we're going to get into all these venues. I only show upon request. But some shops aren't asking.
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Post by Gort on Oct 19, 2021 11:29:08 GMT 10
Why? Seeing as that's the only way we're going to get into all these venues. I only show upon request. But some shops aren't asking. You're not receiving a minor adrenaline rush as you hope others might be suspicious about you are you Matte?... is he or isn't he vaccinated they ponder with a side-eye. It sounds like something Mr. Bean would do ... approach with the hope of a challenge ... then producing the evidence with a flourish.
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Post by matte on Oct 19, 2021 12:40:08 GMT 10
I only show upon request. But some shops aren't asking. You're not receiving a minor adrenaline rush as you hope others might be suspicious about you are you Matte?... is he or isn't he vaccinated they ponder with a side-eye. It sounds like something Mr. Bean would do ... approach with the hope of a challenge ... then producing the evidence with a flourish. Nope, just pointing out the actual rules that businesses in New South Wales are subject to. The rule is that they have a sign up stating that vaccinated people can only enter. That is actually all they have to do. That is considered a "reasonable step" according to the health orders. If a business has that sign up, the onus is on the customer to present proof, not the business to request it. Secondly, the NSW Police Commissioner has said his officers will not be asking people to present their vaccination certificates. The only time they'll attend a business is if a person has been asked to leave but refuse. They would do that under normal situations anyway. There is no requirement for a business to ask to see a vaccine certificate. They do have to check a person has checked in though.
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Post by Gort on Oct 19, 2021 12:58:26 GMT 10
C'mon man! Here's the deal: You are a non-conformist conformist who gets a kick out of little displays of "sticking it to the man". We're on to you.
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Post by caskur on Oct 19, 2021 14:13:36 GMT 10
You're not receiving a minor adrenaline rush as you hope others might be suspicious about you are you Matte?... is he or isn't he vaccinated they ponder with a side-eye. It sounds like something Mr. Bean would do ... approach with the hope of a challenge ... then producing the evidence with a flourish. Nope, just pointing out the actual rules that businesses in New South Wales are subject to. The rule is that they have a sign up stating that vaccinated people can only enter. That is actually all they have to do. That is considered a "reasonable step" according to the health orders. If a business has that sign up, the onus is on the customer to present proof, not the business to request it. Secondly, the NSW Police Commissioner has said his officers will not be asking people to present their vaccination certificates. The only time they'll attend a business is if a person has been asked to leave but refuse. They would do that under normal situations anyway. There is no requirement for a business to ask to see a vaccine certificate. They do have to check a person has checked in though. Too bad you are months too late with your super spreading hypocritical arses.
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Post by matte on Oct 19, 2021 16:41:38 GMT 10
We're doing exactly what Western Australia will have to face eventually, unless WA wants to remain sealed off.
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Post by matte on Oct 21, 2021 22:22:21 GMT 10
It is expected that the Victorian government will announce it'll match the New South Wales policy of not requiring quarantine - at home or hotel - of fully vaccinated international arrivals.
Essentially, the international border into both Sydney and Melbourne will be open.
So what about the purpose built quarantine facility which is currently being built at Mickleham? So much money being wasted.
Not to mention the Qld government stubbornly going it alone at the Wellcamp airport.
The reason why New South Wales and South Australia never pushed for these white elephants is being Liberal governments they knew quarantine was going to be temporary. Common sense tells you this.
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Post by Gort on Oct 23, 2021 9:57:14 GMT 10
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Post by matte on Oct 23, 2021 18:26:13 GMT 10
Yes, this is serious business... The U.S. Surgeon General provides advice on kissing during a pandemic.
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Post by matte on Oct 28, 2021 18:35:49 GMT 10
Victoria still hitting those record numbers.
They need to adopt the New South Wales way to defeat the virus.
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Post by ponto on Oct 28, 2021 20:00:19 GMT 10
Since Perrottet decided to open up and let covid rip from having no cases in Coffs Harbour region to now 28 cases ... regional cases are on the rise.
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Post by matte on Nov 7, 2021 10:56:38 GMT 10
So my Service NSW app says I was a casual contact from being at a supermarket a few days ago and said I am to get tested and isolate until I receive a negative result.
This isn't covid normal and therefore I intend on acting as if I never saw the push notification. I am double vaccinated and don't feel sick. So why would I get a test? I thought pathology tests were there to diagnose people with a disease who have symptoms of something?
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Post by Gort on Nov 7, 2021 11:07:05 GMT 10
However, you could be spreading Covid .. I recommend getting tested.
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Post by matte on Nov 7, 2021 11:22:28 GMT 10
However, you could be spreading Covid .. I recommend getting tested. But almost 90% of the over 12s are vaccinated.
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Post by Gort on Nov 7, 2021 11:27:52 GMT 10
You wouldn't want the chance of infecting the unvaccinated on your conscience would you Matte?
Especially anyone aged 0 to 12.
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Post by Gort on Nov 8, 2021 12:24:31 GMT 10
Meanwhile, new pharmaceutical weapons against COVID 19 are looking promising ... ‘Nail in the coffin’ for COVID: New drugs promise to change way we live with virusNew antiviral pills for COVID-19 that take the fight directly to the virus could change the way the world lives with the pandemic – so long as they are proven to be as good as their manufacturers claim. On Friday, Pfizer issued a press release claiming its antiviral reduced the risk of hospitalisation or death by 89 per cent for people at high risk from COVID-19. In October, Merck claimed its antiviral cut hospitalisations and deaths by half; the drug has just been approved for use in Britain. Other competitors are not far behind. Australia has placed an order for Merck’s COVID-19 treatment, which awaits emergency use approval in the US.CREDIT:AP The drugs mark a step-change in the way we respond to the pandemic, scientists say. If they are approved, patients could be given a pill as soon as they test positive – or even earlier as a preventative. “Vaccination will always be our first line of defence. But we’re never going to get rid of COVID,” said Associate Professor Nial Wheate, an expert in pharmaceutical science at the University of Sydney. “We want to turn it into an endemic, rather than pandemic problem, something we live with. And these drugs will hopefully let us get to that point.” Professor David Komander, who leads a lab studying COVID-19 antivirals at the Walter and Eliza Hall Institute, called them the “nail in the coffin for COVID-19”. “If I get COVID despite being fully vaccinated … I know I have another wonderful option to effectively not die from it.” On Sunday, Deputy Chief Medical Officer Dr Sonya Bennett confirmed the government was looking at options to purchase Merck’s drug if it is approved by Australia’s medical regulator. “But once that’s done, we should have that drug available.” While the world has access to a broad range of COVID-19 vaccines – eight have been approved by the World Health Organisation – drugs that directly target the virus lag behind. Just three such treatments have been provisionally approved by Australia’s drug regulator: monoclonal antibodies from Merck and GlaxoSmithKline and the early antiviral remdesivir – which displays such minimal effectiveness that the WHO recommends it not be used. All three are administered via hospital injection, limiting their usefulness. Pfizer and Merck’s new antivirals are pills that can be taken at home. A virus has a simple goal: to gain access to a human cell, take over the cell’s machinery and use it to make copies of itself. Vaccines trigger the immune system to make antibodies that stop a virus from getting inside the cell. Antivirals typically attack the virus when it is already in the cell, usually by gumming up the machinery the virus uses to copy itself. Pfizer’s antiviral blocks the action of a key enzyme the virus uses as part of the copying process. Merck’s drug mimics a building block the virus uses to copy itself, getting incorporated in the virus’ genetic code before changing configuration, causing a mutation within the virus. Both drugs were so successful in phase 3 trials, independent monitoring boards stopped the trials early, the companies claimed. However, neither company has yet published their results in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. “We can’t put any value in press-release data,” said Professor Wheate. He was “excited, but cautious”. If the drugs are approved, a key question for regulators will be the logistics of when and how to give them. Pfizer’s drug, for example, is given within three days of symptoms – meaning the drugs must be quickly shipped across the country. The lagging development of antivirals is because research tends to be underfunded, even more so than vaccine research, said Dr Rob Grenfell, director of health and biosecurity at the CSIRO. “And they have been really challenging to develop.” Antivirals must attack the virus while it is inside human cells. Mount too strong an attack, or block a key mechanism, and you can damage the cell itself. www.theage.com.au/national/nail-in-the-coffin-for-covid-new-drugs-promise-to-change-way-we-live-with-virus-20211107-p596p0.html
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Post by pim on Dec 1, 2021 0:00:06 GMT 10
Steady on ranters, Victoria is not descending into totalitarianismBy Jack Waterford Nov 24, 2021 johnmenadue.com/steady-on-ranters-victoria-is-not-descending-into-totalitarianism/The anti-government protesters in Melbourne are not representative of majority opinion.The ”crowd” has not spoken. Media interests, and the Coalition, have no sure instinct for what voters think about pandemic management. I have no idea how many Victorians have been overtaken by the panic that Victoria is on the verge of becoming a totalitarian communist state, with unlimited and unaccountable powers being divvied up among politicians, bureaucrats and policemen. Some of those, including opposition politicians, Scott Morrison and News Corp, as well as the usual conservative barristers from central casting, have massively overstated the threat and the problem, but a significant number of anti-vaxxer, anti “compulsion” and general nut-cases are now in a frenzy, to the point of constructing gallows for Andrews’s commissars. My guess is that the “crowd” is not as big or representative of public opinion as street protesters, opposition spokesmen and sundry News Corp ranters would suggest. Nor do I think that there is some tsunami of common sense and moderation which will soon sweep the present Victorian government out of office, possibly before its time, in much the same manner as the insurrectionists of January 6 attempted in Washington. It has long characterised News Corp campaigns in Victoria, as well as opposition attempts to stampede law-and-order debates, that they have significantly underestimated the support for Daniel Andrews, and public acceptance of his broad strategies and tactics during the course of the pandemic. The same people made the same mistake with the West Australian election, and the Queensland one. This is not to say that there weren’t some folk, including some business interests, who were entirely against lockdowns. One has to balance the public interest in keeping the economy going and the preservation of life. But I don’t buy the oft-repeated claim that the pandemic response prioritised the health needs of a few elderly people above the rest of the population. Nor that over a long period of time Australians who had been generally obedient and sensible about following expert advice came to be very weary of prolonged lockdowns and came to see the dropping of them as a sort of liberation. But that does not mean that they have rejected leaders who took the public into their confidence, and provided as much information as they could. Now that even local lockdowns are largely over, any sense of drama and urgency about a tidy-up of government powers based on the experience of the pandemic (and of emergency services responses to the 2019-20 bushfires) is likely to dissipate, particularly if Andrews puts such legislation on the backburner. But maybe he has jumped the gun anyway. He did not have answers to all the questions. His advisers seem to have been clear about the nature of the measures that ought to be adopted, and the powers and functions of various state officials and bureaucrats to back them up. Because experience with epidemics is old, and because emergency management of a flood or bushfire is not quite the same, it is hardly surprising that there was a fairly settled view in small-g government about the necessary structures, powers and duties. For that reason, a few key bureaucrats can draft legislation quickly. (I expect that such draft legislation would have been just the same had the advice been coming to a Victorian Liberal premier, and that such a person would have largely followed the advice, and probably with hostility from the media.) But it is not just for bureaucrats, however expert and however self-righteous, to decide what powers and functions, and in what administratively convenient agencies such powers should be vested. If a fresh crisis arose, Victoria is quite capable of renewing some of the existing legislation, which seemed to work well enough, even if it could be fine-tuned. In the meantime even a review of functions, powers and duties would be improved by a general review of what happened, why, and what we can learn from it. And from extensive consultation, in advance of draft legislation. I think the idea of such a review is the more important because it seems obvious that Scott Morrison has no intention of having any review, let alone an honest and non-partisan one into what the Commonwealth did. I do not suggest that everything he did was wrong; indeed, I consider that his performance was reasonably creditable during 2020. But through all of this year he has fluffed things again and again, frequently misled the public, and been far from transparent. His style is of always denying any wrongdoing, let alone any misstatement of the fact, and of ever insisting that he should move forward rather than look back. That personality and character, and his utter want of any restraint when he is deploying public resources to partisan purposes, would seem to make it certain that all of the same mistakes, and colossal waste of public money could occur again. ”Dictator Dan” need not get a set of Labor luvvies to do such an inquiry. Nor, in framing terms of reference need he greatly fear that some terms might rebound on Labor. He is not of the personality which cannot admit a mistake; likewise he has shown himself ready and capable of answering questions, including ones based on fresh knowledge of the virus. If I were him, I would go outside Victoria for my commissioners — who should, ideally be someone from business (but not finance); a skilled barrister (perhaps the very skilled Sophie Callan, SC), and someone from the health or scientific establishment, preferably someone not compromised by the advice they gave government. Plus, perhaps, a competent senior South Australian bureaucrat, and someone capable of addressing issues raised by the organisation of pandemic services for the aged, the institutionalised, the disabled, people with auto-immune diseases and indigenous Australians. Each with their own support, including some capacity to judge between different state strategies. If Morrison loses the next election, federal Labor should immediately borrow from the Abbott-Turnbull-Morrison playbook and organise inquiries into a range of matters, some having nothing to do with the pandemic. We need inquiries into patterns of spending public money, and the increasing lack of transparency or accountability involved. Likewise into the politicisation of the public service. We need a searching inquiry into the consciously planned attack on the universities. We need progress on a powerful integrity commission, as well as a new body, complementary to the National Audit Office, doing regular own-motion studies into the effectiveness and efficiency of public spending, co-ordination between federal agencies and also between Commonwealth and state ones. It would do federal Labor no harm if it foreshadowed some such systemic inquiries, ones established not for payback but so as to get good government back on its feet.
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Post by caskur on Dec 1, 2021 11:34:34 GMT 10
A fully vaccinated nurse died of covid.... so much for our shit vaccines.... so much for mandates...
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Post by Gort on Dec 15, 2021 9:54:27 GMT 10
Not looking flash at the minute ...
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Post by matte on Dec 15, 2021 21:42:39 GMT 10
I'm with the residents, the testing facility isn't a good fit for the suburb. Less testing also means less cases. Mosman resident complaints prompt council to close COVID-19 testing clinicBy Daniella White December 15, 2021 SYDNEY MORNING HERALD Mosman Council has closed its only COVID-19 testing clinic after nearby residents complained it was creating “excessive traffic” and posed a safety risk. The site will be shut from Thursday, even though an alternative location has not been found. Sydneysiders will be short of a testing clinic despite a dramatic surge in COVID-19 cases in NSW. In a statement on Wednesday afternoon, the lower north shore council said it was working with clinic operator Douglass Hanly Moir to identify an alternative location for the drive-through clinic. “Following significant public safety concerns due to excessive traffic, parking and access issues, a decision has been made that the drive-through COVID-19 testing clinic in Melrose Street will be closed after today,” it said. FULL STORY: www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/mosman-resident-complaints-prompts-council-to-close-covid-19-testing-clinic-20211215-p59hyk.html
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Post by caskur on Dec 15, 2021 21:55:51 GMT 10
Since Perrottet decided to open up and let covid rip from having no cases in Coffs Harbour region to now 28 cases ... regional cases are on the rise. Parrot your prem is very obtuse. He won't get voted in next state election. You'll see.
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Post by Gort on Dec 16, 2021 10:47:41 GMT 10
The 3rd wave looks like being the biggest yet.
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