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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 8:32:23 GMT 10
Bin Laden's killer reveals personal costFairfax NZ News | 11:05AM - Tuesday, 12 February 2013 OSAMA BIN LADEN: Was moving towards an AK47 while
holding on to one of his wives, the Navy Seal says.THE US Navy Seal who claims to have killed Osama bin Laden has described shooting him in the head and how he is now a civilian struggling to survive.
In a 15,000 word piece published in Esquire magazine, the soldier describes his jubilation but also the personal cost he has since suffered.
"I shot him, two times in the forehead. Bap! Bap! The second time as he's going down. He crumpled on to the floor in front of his bed and I hit him again, Bap! same place."
The man was part of Seal Team Six, which was tasked with flying into Pakistan and killing the al Qaeda leader at his hideout nearly two years ago. He told the magazine he was the only one to shoot bin Laden. He entered bin Laden's third-storey bedroom and saw the terror chief move across the room, while holding on to one of his wives, towards an AK47 rifle.
"He looked confused. And way taller than I was expecting... he was holding her in front of him. Maybe as a shield, I don't know. For me, it was a snapshot of a target ID, definitely him... that's him, boom, done."
"I thought in that first instant how skinny he was, how tall and how short his beard was, all at once. He was wearing one of those white hats, but he had, like, an almost shaved head. Like a crew cut. I remember all that registering."
"In that second, I shot him, two times in the forehead. Bap! Bap! The second time as he's going down. He crumpled on to the floor in front of his bed and I hit him again, Bap! same place."
"He was dead. Not moving. His tongue was out. I watched him take his last breaths, just a reflex breath."
It was over in 15 seconds.He said most of the team thought they would die on the mission and had written farewell letters to their families.
The interview goes on to reveal the mental and physical price the man has since paid.
He was offered a place on witness protection, his job: delivering beer. He turned it down because he didn't want to lose contact with family and friends.
He had taken part in the interview because after 16 years' service he no pension or health care. Only those with 20 years' service got the benefits.The soldier also talked about teaching his children to hide in the bath and his wife to use a shotgun out of fear of reprisal.
"He gave so much to his country, and now it seems he's left in the dust," his wife says.
"I feel there's no support, not just for my family but for other families in the community. I honestly have nobody I can go to or talk to. Nor do I feel my husband has gotten much for what he's accomplished in his career," she says.www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/8292300/Bin-Ladens-killer-reveals-personal-cost
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 8:42:43 GMT 10
Bap? I thought that was something else?  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 8:48:29 GMT 10
You know KTJ, it's typical of you to say "get a job" to this bloke who's very likely suffering PTSD. He's come through a mission in which he fully expected he could die. He knows that every fundy muslim will be looking for him ... he and his family are now jihad targets.
And yet you have no problems with every fundy musso pouring into Australia and straight onto disability pensions for life! No admonishments from you for them "to get a job!"
Just shows your skewed views on anything to do with mussos.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 8:48:39 GMT 10
One would have thought the guy would have recieved a medal and a million bucks.....well thats America, all hollywood..
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Post by jody on Feb 12, 2013 8:58:28 GMT 10
He should have
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 8:58:38 GMT 10
Errrrrrr.....he was offered both PROTECTION and a JOB.
He turned both down.
Now he is whinging “poor me!”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 9:08:15 GMT 10
You really think they could protect him while he's out delivering beer??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 9:10:05 GMT 10
You really think they could protect him while he's out delivering beer??
“Live by the sword and DIE by the sword”.
Osama Bin Laden found that out the hard way.
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Post by bender on Feb 12, 2013 15:14:19 GMT 10
He is a whinger. The fact that he was the man who pulled the trigger is incidental, any one of the people on that mission, not to mention pretty much any serving member of the US Special Forces could have done the same if they'd been the person on the spot. He may have felt he was in danger at the time but the reality was that he shot an unarmed man.
He then could have remained in the military to qualify for the same pension every other serviceman or woman gets after serving enough time but chose to quit.
He's a whinger.
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Post by jody on Feb 12, 2013 17:33:25 GMT 10
Lefties on the side of the enemy once again :/
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Post by bender on Feb 12, 2013 21:38:06 GMT 10
How do you equate that to being on the side of the enemy Jody? Really, how bloody stupid are you that you take what has been said here as being on the enemies side?
Wait, don't bother answering, we all know just how stupid you are. You make regular pronouncements like you have here and then claim to be only joking when called on them.
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Post by matt on Feb 12, 2013 21:50:44 GMT 10
He deserves a pension for the rest of his life and the congressional medal of honour.
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Post by matt on Feb 12, 2013 21:52:11 GMT 10
How do you equate that to being on the side of the enemy Jody? Really, how bloody stupid are you that you take what has been said here as being on the enemies side? Wait, don't bother answering, we all know just how stupid you are. You make regular pronouncements like you have here and then claim to be only joking when called on them. You either support this soldier or support bin-laden, it is really that simple. |
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Post by bender on Feb 12, 2013 22:13:57 GMT 10
Why does he deserve the Medal of Honour? What this guy did was something that pretty much any member of the US Special Forces would be capable of.
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Post by bender on Feb 12, 2013 22:14:40 GMT 10
How do you equate that to being on the side of the enemy Jody? Really, how bloody stupid are you that you take what has been said here as being on the enemies side? Wait, don't bother answering, we all know just how stupid you are. You make regular pronouncements like you have here and then claim to be only joking when called on them. You either support this soldier or support bin-laden, it is really that simple. Only you could be that simple Matty..... |
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Post by jody on Feb 12, 2013 22:19:03 GMT 10
Because its true for those who are so far left they can't even turn right bender !!
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Post by bender on Feb 12, 2013 23:03:17 GMT 10
Because its true for those who are so far left they can't even turn right bender !! Really? And your evidence for claiming that those on the left support the murder of defenceless women and children is Jody? You're a fool. You say stupid things and rather then just admit it you continue to say even looper things. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 2:33:55 GMT 10
what did he do? he went into danger, followed orders, placed his life on the line, and shot the public enemy number 1 thats what he did In other words, he merely did the job he volunteered to do (you ALWAYS volunteer to join special forces, which means you WANT to do it). |
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Post by jody on Feb 13, 2013 5:53:01 GMT 10
Yes yes Bender....very hard to admit who you are isn't it!
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Post by jody on Feb 13, 2013 5:56:00 GMT 10
Something I have found with humans in my time on earth is the bulk of them will get nasty and abusive when faced with a truth that they can't cope with, that they refuse to admit to.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 10:59:54 GMT 10
I knew someone who had PTSD after his dog died 4 years ago...and the dog was 20 years old.
So have some compassion for a bloke who shot in teh head a unarmed person who was in the arms of his loving wife, it would indeeds be quite traumatic.
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Post by Salem on Feb 13, 2013 11:46:17 GMT 10
Something I have found with humans in my time on earth is the bulk of them will get nasty and abusive when faced with a truth that they can't cope with, that they refuse to admit to. Far too true on this board Jody. Very true. |
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Post by bender on Feb 13, 2013 14:31:53 GMT 10
Something I have found with humans in my time on earth is the bulk of them will get nasty and abusive when faced with a truth that they can't cope with, that they refuse to admit to. What? You're not human or from earth? Makes sense, most of what you say comes from Uranus...... |
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Post by jody on Feb 13, 2013 14:46:57 GMT 10
lol...a reply I'd expect from you.
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Post by bender on Feb 13, 2013 15:15:34 GMT 10
You know KTJ, it's typical of you to say "get a job" to this bloke who's very likely suffering PTSD. He's come through a mission in which he fully expected he could die. He knows that every fundy muslim will be looking for him ... he and his family are now jihad targets. And yet you have no problems with every fundy musso pouring into Australia and straight onto disability pensions for life! No admonishments from you for them "to get a job!" Just shows your skewed views on anything to do with mussos. And the abovepost shows just how ignorant your views are Stellar. In the thousands of Muslims I've come into contact with I've met none that you'd describe as a fundamentalist muslim, and precious few that you'd even describe as a fervent muslim, my experience is that barely 10% of the people claiming to be of the Islamic faith actually go to Mosque services despite the fact that in detention, going to Mosque services is one of the few times they might go out into the community on an excursion. You find a far higher percentage of Middle Easterners identifying as Christian or Tamil's claiming to be Hindu. In talking to them, the vast majority say the number 1 problem in their country is Islam and the way it's intertwined with their governments. I don't care if you are against asylum seekers Stellar. That's your right. I don't care if you don't like Muslims, Middle Easterners, Africans, Indonesians, Chinese, Malaysians, Arab's, Bushmen of the Kalahari, and Pacific Islanders, nobodies claiming that you have to like them. But when you try and justify your beliefs with lies and fabrications Stellar, don't you think that maybe that means that there's something wrong with those beliefs. |
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