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Post by matte on Jun 8, 2021 19:12:01 GMT 10
I personally believe this family has been through too much and the immigration minister should grant them permanent residency. Biloela family asylum-seeker girl evacuated from Christmas Island with suspected septicaemia
By Erin Semmler and staff 7 JUNE 2021 ABC NEWS The Australian-born youngest daughter of a Tamil asylum seeker family in immigration detention on Christmas Island has arrived at a Perth hospital after being medically evacuated with a suspected blood infection. Three-year-old Tharnicaa Murugappan was flown to Western Australia from Christmas Island with her mother, Priya, after being unwell since May 25. "I am feeling very scared and worried for my little girl," Priya said in a statement from Change.org. FULL STORY: www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-07/biloela-girl-in-medical-evacuation-from-christmas-island/100196456
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Post by ponto on Jun 8, 2021 19:13:37 GMT 10
Of course they should...end the sorry saga.
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Post by caskur on Jun 8, 2021 19:18:36 GMT 10
Yeah, open the gates and finally finish off Australia for good.
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Post by matte on Jun 8, 2021 19:22:39 GMT 10
Yeah, open the gates and finally finish off Australia for good. The community of Biloela want them. If the people of Biloela want them, why should we step in the way of that?
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Post by caskur on Jun 8, 2021 19:34:50 GMT 10
Yeah, open the gates and finally finish off Australia for good. The community of Biloela want them. If the people of Biloela want them, why should we step in the way of that? Does the aborigine community want them? If we give in and they are allowed, 10s of thousands of UNWANTED others will come... Tell me something Matte, do you care about Australia's natural world or just unwanted country shoppers?
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Post by caskur on Jun 8, 2021 19:40:50 GMT 10
I see the Indian decent Kamala Harris has told Sth Americans, "Not to come," and "They will be turned around.
Let's see the illegal immigrant promoters here call Indian decent Kamala Harris, a racist twat.
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Post by matte on Jun 8, 2021 20:15:17 GMT 10
These poor girls, Australian born, but have only ever known the captive life. It is time to free them.
We don't have people coming to Australia by boat these days. I don't believe granting them permanent residency will open the floodgates.
If anything, this is the time to do it, while the world is preoccupied with Covid-19.
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Post by caskur on Jun 8, 2021 20:32:21 GMT 10
These poor girls, Australian born, but have only ever known the captive life. It is time to free them. We don't have people coming to Australia by boat these days. I don't believe granting them permanent residency will open the floodgates. If anything, this is the time to do it, while the world is preoccupied with Covid-19. Well I do. Now what?
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Post by matte on Jun 8, 2021 20:35:12 GMT 10
Well I believe in human decency, which is the Christian way. I don't believe granting them permanent residency will put would be asylum seekers at risk by boarding boats in Indonesia.
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Post by caskur on Jun 8, 2021 21:01:28 GMT 10
And of the Christian way of obeying laws, is that negated because two girls were born so they could claim residency in a foreign land?
you know Sri Lanka is a breath taking paradise right?... you know those kids have grandparents and extended blood relatives back in Sri Lanka, being denied the right to meeting the grandchildren and aunts, uncles and cousins also denied.
Do think denying those kids a family heritage, is a good thing?
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Post by Stellar on Jun 9, 2021 9:29:21 GMT 10
Being born in Australia doesn't give you Australian citizenship. You take the nationality of your parents. But a lot of asylum seekers don't seem to know that. Mainly because that is the rule in the US. Being born there gives you citizenship. And that's why asylum seekers head for the US in their millions causing massive welfare problems. It's probably a law they might need to change in the very near future. I know that many Americans believe their citizenship laws should be the same as Australia's.
So it will really be up to the court to decide on this.
I remember several years back when we still had a Manly Daily (sob), there was a story on an American couple who came here for a couple of years when the husband was transferred to Sydney for his work. They lived in Manly and absolutely the loved the life here. The wife became pregnant 7 months before they were transferred back to the US. Unfortunately her doctors advised her not to travel because there was a bit of a problem with her pregnancy. So they stayed another 3 months here until the baby was born and then left when she was 1 month old. They were both excited because they said their baby would be an Australian - most Americans don't understand our citizenship laws either. But while they were really disappointed that their daughter would take only her parent's citizenship, they understood the reasons behind this. However they still wanted that connection with their daughter's birthplace and because they were so grateful for the medical care they received, they called her Sydney. And said they would be back again many times to show their daughter where she was born and to keep that link with this country.
It was a nice story but it highlights the expectations that people have regarding our citizenship laws.
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Post by ponto on Jun 9, 2021 9:34:00 GMT 10
$3million spent on keeping a family out....fuckwits.
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Post by Stellar on Jun 9, 2021 10:18:06 GMT 10
The law is the law.
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Post by ponto on Jun 9, 2021 12:28:06 GMT 10
Law is the law then the government(s) creates the law and also created the Biloea situation by having laws where asylum seekers can go through the courts for years on end, If illegal deport straight away....sorry tough bananas.
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Post by Gort on Jun 9, 2021 12:47:28 GMT 10
Personally, I would like to see the family settled back in Oz. Of course, it is more likely that they will end up in the US; NZ or back in Sri Lanka. Sad for them, but the hard-line will be maintained. This government will not bend in its aim to deter boat arrivals. One would have thought that the hard-line would be softened by now, but it seems that Morrison is still on a winner with the hard-line approach. Perhaps Kevvie is the gift to the Coalition that keeps on giving?
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Post by matte on Jun 9, 2021 13:10:02 GMT 10
Perhaps NZ will open its arms.
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Post by ponto on Jun 9, 2021 13:35:38 GMT 10
I would bet the government considering low immigration numbers it has increased its refugee intake for cheap Labor.
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Post by pim on Jun 9, 2021 14:21:51 GMT 10
This sorry saga is heading towards its dénouement. “Biloela or Bust” might not be the wisest course if an option becomes available that could represent a good solution for them. And that’s the NZ option. If that’s what they’re offered I hope for their sake that they take it.
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Post by Gort on Jun 9, 2021 14:41:57 GMT 10
I've been to Biloela. Bit of a one-horse town back in the 1960's. Standard joke up there was to try to convince those from "down South" that the correct pronunciation was Bill-o-lah rather than Bill-o-wheel-a.
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Post by caskur on Jun 9, 2021 15:46:02 GMT 10
$3million spent on keeping a family out....fuckwits. The Sri Lankan couple should be billed since THEY ALONE have caused the $3ml debt.
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Post by caskur on Jun 9, 2021 15:49:14 GMT 10
Being born in Australia doesn't give you Australian citizenship. You take the nationality of your parents. But a lot of asylum seekers don't seem to know that. Mainly because that is the rule in the US. Being born there gives you citizenship. And that's why asylum seekers head for the US in their millions causing massive welfare problems. It's probably a law they might need to change in the very near future. I know that many Americans believe their citizenship laws should be the same as Australia's. So it will really be up to the court to decide on this. I remember several years back when we still had a Manly Daily (sob), there was a story on an American couple who came here for a couple of years when the husband was transferred to Sydney for his work. They lived in Manly and absolutely the loved the life here. The wife became pregnant 7 months before they were transferred back to the US. Unfortunately her doctors advised her not to travel because there was a bit of a problem with her pregnancy. So they stayed another 3 months here until the baby was born and then left when she was 1 month old. They were both excited because they said their baby would be an Australian - most Americans don't understand our citizenship laws either. But while they were really disappointed that their daughter would take only her parent's citizenship, they understood the reasons behind this. However they still wanted that connection with their daughter's birthplace and because they were so grateful for the medical care they received, they called her Sydney. And said they would be back again many times to show their daughter where she was born and to keep that link with this country. It was a nice story but it highlights the expectations that people have regarding our citizenship laws. I'll bet $1,000, if or when they get residency, they'll move to a city.
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Post by caskur on Jun 9, 2021 15:56:27 GMT 10
I've been to Biloela. Bit of a one-horse town back in the 1960's. Standard joke up there was to try to convince those from "down South" that the correct pronunciation was Bill-o-lah rather than Bill-o-wheel-a. The mother barely speaks English. I guarantee the two children in this farce are not speaking English either and they need to go home and be with their grandparents and extended family who really will love them.
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Post by pim on Jun 9, 2021 17:00:47 GMT 10
I've been through Biloela (I don't think we stopped) and yes it's the sticks. But what's your point? That they shouldn't go to the sticks? How hard is it to get people to move to remote regions and the vast majority of newcomers to this country gravitate to the cities. Understandable because that's where the jobs are. Having grown up in the sticks I can identify as part of the drift to the cities of school leavers - once I'd finished high school and had my LC results plus uni scholarship I was off to the big smoke and never went back. And yet here is a family of newcomers who actually want to go to the sticks and the sticks actually wants to have them. Toots sneers that the mother barely speaks English - which is typical of lots of migrant Mums. Don't worry about the kids, their English will be fine and not only that they'll grow up multilingual and multicultural. I don't expect anything positive from you on that score Toots. Quite the contrary. Spare us your white supremacist racism. There's a richness in "multilingual and multicultural" that you could never begin to fathom. So I'll leave you in that bigotry.
The reality is that they're still on Christmas Island and the kids are approaching school age. I wish the three year old a speedy recovery and that the family doesn't have to languish in their current situation for as long as Australia is afflicted with this Morrison Government. If NZ offers them a berth I hope they take it. For their sakes.
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Post by Stellar on Jun 9, 2021 21:12:44 GMT 10
$3million spent on keeping a family out....fuckwits. The Sri Lankan couple should be billed since THEY ALONE have caused the $3ml debt. I think asylum seekers/refugees are only allowed one appeal in the US. Court costs are astronomical everywhere, not just here. And I think it's totally wrong that asylum seekers can tie up the courts for years with appeal after appeal when ordinary citizens without financial backup cannot afford to access the court system at all without going bankrupt.
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Post by caskur on Jun 9, 2021 21:50:55 GMT 10
The Sri Lankan couple should be billed since THEY ALONE have caused the $3ml debt. I think asylum seekers/refugees are only allowed one appeal in the US. Court costs are astronomical everywhere, not just here. And I think it's totally wrong that asylum seekers can tie up the courts for years with appeal after appeal when ordinary citizens without financial backup cannot afford to access the court system at all without going bankrupt. Working tax payers stuck in shitty jobs pay for it but the Pims, the Pontos and the Matts of this group couldn't give 2 knobs of goatshit about those wage slaves... The Aussie wage slaves are an endless supply of money supporting illegals apparently.
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