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Post by Stellar on Jun 14, 2021 13:50:35 GMT 10
I'm pragmatic, whilst you're just proving to be a useful idiot. < sigh > |
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Post by Stellar on Jun 14, 2021 13:52:49 GMT 10
I personally couldn't care less about the parents. They are using the kids as pawns. But the kids have been through too much. Time to let them live a normal life. Of course they're using the kids. That's the whole point - to get bonking and produce those little goldmines that they believe will enable them to stay. But those kids I will point out are Sri Lankan. They're not Australian! |
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Post by ponto on Jun 14, 2021 15:29:51 GMT 10
Sri Lankan government with the Indian government have been stopping the boats for some time, and proactive in deterrent by going village to village telling people not get involved with people smugglers.
Obviously there are serious issues with manditory detention, especially when the health of kids is allowed to deteriorate to a near death experience with 2 months in hospital for recovery as with the young girl. And she is not the first case of poor health management in detention centers.
As record high immigration levels were introduced by the coalition people thought they were being inundated by refugees and felt intimidated, while the coalition was broadcasting they had stopped the boats for political purposes, when the management of asylum seekers should have been dealt with quietly with no fuss and the decisions to be either blended into the population or sent back is done in a discreet manner.
The government has handled this issue poorly by playing a self interested political game that has left the Bileola family in a difficult place to be, given their poor treatment the government can be more flexible and grant these people citizenship, without opening the flood gates.
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Post by caskur on Jun 14, 2021 15:57:03 GMT 10
Their faces are now very identifiable. Those kids will get bullied when they go to school here if they stay. They'll never know true love from their grandparents all because extremely dopey other immigrant 'Australians,' have misplaced bleeding heart syndrome.
As for newspapers claiming they are suffering.....THEY ARE NOT SUFFERING. Ugh!
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Post by matte on Jun 14, 2021 20:06:33 GMT 10
Their faces are now very identifiable. Those kids will get bullied when they go to school here if they stay. They'll never know true love from their grandparents all because extremely dopey other immigrant 'Australians,' have misplaced bleeding heart syndrome. As for newspapers claiming they are suffering.....THEY ARE NOT SUFFERING. Ugh! But they love them in their adopted community. |
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Post by caskur on Jun 14, 2021 20:10:09 GMT 10
Their faces are now very identifiable. Those kids will get bullied when they go to school here if they stay. They'll never know true love from their grandparents all because extremely dopey other immigrant 'Australians,' have misplaced bleeding heart syndrome. As for newspapers claiming they are suffering.....THEY ARE NOT SUFFERING. Ugh! But they love them in their adopted community. Bulldust... once they are allowed to stay, do you think they'll want to live in a backwater shithole? You'll all freaken nuts! |
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Post by ponto on Jun 14, 2021 21:30:31 GMT 10
Sucko you meanie greemies they are likely to stay..
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Post by caskur on Jun 14, 2021 23:35:17 GMT 10
Sucko you meanie greemies they are likely to stay.. very, very bad Ju Ju. Mark my words.... signed, meanie greemie |
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Post by pim on Jun 14, 2021 23:51:41 GMT 10
Eat your racist heart out
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Post by caskur on Jun 15, 2021 2:14:31 GMT 10
Eat your racist heart out The only racist around here is YOU!!! |
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Post by ponto on Jun 15, 2021 8:07:32 GMT 10
Cannot keep people in detention without proper medical care and not while the Murugappan were having their claims going through the courts, which is an ass, if people are illegal they should be removed quickly instead of law extending the process so that families establish a life here in a community having kids.
Meanwhile there are genuine refugees unable to move from desperate camps while the government is forced to fuck about spending millions on non genuine cases...recall a lot of the Tamils looking for a better life snuck in on boats filled with genuine refugees.
Such as it is one cannot say I don't want to live in the country where I was born anymore so up and leave and then go live in Switzerland or Sweden or Australia, just as a Australian cannot up and leave and say I want to live in Sri Lanka or Timbuctoo, other countries will not accept with open borders there is a process to go through first.
With the Murugappan family they were badly dealt with their manditory detention by the government....consequence they deserve resettlement.
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Post by matte on Jun 15, 2021 8:15:00 GMT 10
The immigration minister has granted permission for community detention in Perth.
The minister says it remains the government's view that people who arrive in Australia via boat not be eligible to stay permanently.
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Post by pim on Jun 15, 2021 8:20:17 GMT 10
Doesn’t matter what rational arguments you use Ponto, you can argue due process, you can argue natural justice, you can argue from plain old fashioned morality and human rights, you can appeal all you want to the better angels of their natures. None of the above cuts any ice with the likes of our Gruesome Twosome. Because it’s not about any of the above with these people.
It does have a name. Let’s call it by its name: R A C I S M
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Post by ponto on Jun 15, 2021 8:51:18 GMT 10
When they bung people in detention the government has the responsible to care for their well being, as in health, this is where the government has failed, they near killed the youngest child...the whole thing is people claiming refugee status needs to be tightened.
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Post by matte on Jun 15, 2021 9:18:25 GMT 10
They are going to be allowed to stay in the community in Perth, pending decisions from their court cases.
I guess if the federal court decides that they have no claim they will need to be deported.
They have not been granted any permanent visa.
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Post by caskur on Jun 15, 2021 9:30:45 GMT 10
Cannot keep people in detention without proper medical care and not while the Murugappan were having their claims going through the courts, which is an ass, if people are illegal they should be removed quickly instead of law extending the process so that families establish a life here in a community having kids. I am so sick of hearing how much money is wasted on these bludgers but the government can't find the money to erect affordable housing for REAL citizens??? Now the Sri Lankan family have a taste of Perth... the finest most modern hospitals in the southern hemisphere they'll never want to leave although it is bloody freezing atm, it is sure to put them off. It's putting me off. |
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Post by caskur on Jun 15, 2021 9:35:38 GMT 10
They are going to be allowed to stay in the community in Perth, pending decisions from their court cases. I guess if the federal court decides that they have no claim they will need to be deported. They have not been granted any permanent visa. Their case has already been through the highest court at tax payers expense and the bludger still won't take his family home. Bad JuJu. |
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Post by matte on Jun 15, 2021 9:35:48 GMT 10
Cannot keep people in detention without proper medical care and not while the Murugappan were having their claims going through the courts, which is an ass, if people are illegal they should be removed quickly instead of law extending the process so that families establish a life here in a community having kids. I am so sick of hearing how much money is wasted on these bludgers but the government can't find the money to erect affordable housing for REAL citizens??? Now the Sri Lankan family have a taste of Perth... the finest most modern hospitals in the southern hemisphere they'll never want to leave although it is bloody freezing atm, it is sure to put them off. It's putting me off. Finest, most modern? While they fiddle around banning soft drinks, the rest of the system struggles due to Mark McGowan. WA hospital crisis laid bare as Sir Charles Gairdner sounds weekly capacity alarmsBy Hamish Hastie May 31, 2021 Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital has called 32 ‘code yellow’ emergencies in just 21 weeks. The figure is the latest warning sign Western Australia’s hospital system is struggling to cope with an influx of patients, with medical bodies repeatedly warning staff were overworked and patient care was compromised. One of the code yellows at Sir Charles Gairdner was a whole-of-hospital capacity issue while the other 31 were capacity-related issues in its emergency department. In the same period of January 1 to May 25, Fiona Stanley Hospital called six ED code yellows while Royal Perth Hospital called one. FULL STORY: www.watoday.com.au/politics/western-australia/wa-hospital-crisis-laid-bare-as-sir-charles-gairdner-sounds-weekly-capacity-alarms-20210531-p57wo5.html |
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Post by caskur on Jun 15, 2021 9:45:34 GMT 10
Perth Childrens Hospital and Fiona Stanley Hospital are the most modern Hospitals in the southern hemisphere... Check them out Matte. CHARLES Gairdner is an old hospital
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Post by caskur on Jun 15, 2021 9:54:33 GMT 10
and about the other problems we have... that's what you get when dump thousands and thousands of immigrants on this country... there will never be enough roads, buses, trains, cars, houses, hospitals and schools to keep up.
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Post by Stellar on Jun 15, 2021 9:55:07 GMT 10
They had links to the Tamil Tigers which the Australian govt has declared a terrorist organisation. However the civil war has been over since 2013. People are not being persecuted. They cannot claim refugee status. The trouble makers are actually the refugee activists. You'd have to ask, do these people have anything else to do in their lives - like work, for instance? The worst of them having been Ian Rintoul. These are the ones who ignore immigration laws. Who encourage these asylum seekers to make appeal after appeal in our courts. These appeals should be reduced to only one. Refugee lawyers look on asylum seekers and wanna be refugees to be a goldmine.  However it's all being paid for by the working poor of this country. The ordinary people who cannot afford legal fees themselves. The ordinary people whose taxes are immediately taken out of their wages before they'd been paid into their bank accounts. Unlike the rich and their accountants who can virtually decide how much tax they are prepared to pay. The family will be allowed to stay even though the courts would have to refuse their application on legal grounds. The govt will be forced to make an exception in this case. However I believe that any refugee or asylum seeker should not be given citizenship for at least 10 - 15 years. That is because we have found - especially with the Afghans, Somalians and Lebanese - that they are more than willing to become involved in criminal activities for which they cannot be deported. All refugees and asylum seekers should have to prove they are of good character - and that takes time. Anyone can keep their nose clean for 5 years but 15 is another matter altogether. And if they find themselves before the courts, it's back home they go! |
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Post by Stellar on Jun 15, 2021 10:00:20 GMT 10
and about the other problems we have... that's what you get when dump thousands and thousands of immigrants on this country... there will never be enough roads, buses, trains, cars, houses, hospitals and schools to keep up. And that always means more bushland destroyed to build more roads, more houses, more schools, more hospitals, more shopping centres, etc etc. And more bushland destroyed to increase our farms' capacity to produce more food for more and more people. All this whilst our wildlife becomes extinct because apparently people are more important than wildlife.  |
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Post by caskur on Jun 15, 2021 10:10:38 GMT 10
Tamils HATE Indian soldiers because Indian soldiers rape Tamil women.... fucking Indian soldiers...THEY are the real terrorists, not the Tamils...Anyway everything else staller says is true.
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Post by caskur on Jun 15, 2021 10:12:34 GMT 10
and about the other problems we have... that's what you get when dump thousands and thousands of immigrants on this country... there will never be enough roads, buses, trains, cars, houses, hospitals and schools to keep up. And that always means more bushland destroyed to build more roads, more houses, more schools, more hospitals, more shopping centres, etc etc. And more bushland destroyed to increase our farms' capacity to produce more food for more and more people. All this whilst our wildlife becomes extinct because apparently people are more important than wildlife. seriously my blood boils on this issue. |
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Post by Stellar on Jun 15, 2021 10:34:05 GMT 10
When they bung people in detention the government has the responsible to care for their well being, as in health, this is where the government has failed, they near killed the youngest child...the whole thing is people claiming refugee status needs to be tightened. They don't have to stay there. They can go home you know! Back to their families .... or is it that once they are allowed to stay here they will start the process of "sponsoring" their extended families into Australia? That's what they all usually do. So it isn't just the family itself - it's the dozens of others that come after. |
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