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Post by matte on Jun 2, 2021 17:59:25 GMT 10
Real world data out of the UK says that the vaccines are holding up against those variants. It is supposedly spreading throughout the United Kingdom but they recorded 0 deaths on 1 June. So all the elderly and other vulnerable people should get the vaccines. But other groups should be able to make a benefit v risks decision. That still leaves the younger ones spreading it more than the older ones. There needs to be a whole of population approach. But if the elderly are protected, it doesn't matter. I mean, the influenza vaccine isn't even free for younger people, but we don't care. As long as the vulnerable get it. If younger people catch it naturally, that provides the best immunity. Ask any scientist.
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Post by Gort on Jun 2, 2021 18:02:39 GMT 10
It does matter.
Not all elderly will be fully protected and it can kill young people too.
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Post by caskur on Jun 2, 2021 19:22:55 GMT 10
It does matter. Not all elderly will be fully protected and it can kill young people too. The long Covid is debilitating. Organs are permanently scarred, the brain is damaged and chronic fatigued persists. And having a workforce working at 50% of their ability isn't going to benefit anyone. I don't think they pay attention and take enough notice.
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Post by matte on Jun 2, 2021 19:30:13 GMT 10
It does matter. Not all elderly will be fully protected and it can kill young people too. The long Covid is debilitating. Organs are permanently scared, the brain is damaged and chronic fatigued persists. And having a workforce working at 50% of their ability isn't going to benefit anyone. I don't think they pay attention and take enough notice. You can blame China and the Wuhan lab.
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Post by Gort on Jun 2, 2021 19:52:35 GMT 10
It does matter. Not all elderly will be fully protected and it can kill young people too. The long Covid is debilitating. Organs are permanently scared, the brain is damaged and chronic fatigued persists. And having a workforce working at 50% of their ability isn't going to benefit anyone. I don't think they pay attention and take enough notice. Be afraid organs ... You mean scarred.
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Post by caskur on Jun 2, 2021 19:59:29 GMT 10
The long Covid is debilitating. Organs are permanently scared, the brain is damaged and chronic fatigued persists. And having a workforce working at 50% of their ability isn't going to benefit anyone. I don't think they pay attention and take enough notice. You can blame China and the Wuhan lab. No I blame border hoppers and idiots who don't realise this is an insideous invader. And people like you thinking it is OK to allow people to return from hot spots.
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Post by caskur on Jun 2, 2021 20:01:45 GMT 10
The long Covid is debilitating. Organs are permanently scared, the brain is damaged and chronic fatigued persists. And having a workforce working at 50% of their ability isn't going to benefit anyone. I don't think they pay attention and take enough notice. Be afraid organs ... You mean scarred. Haha... I do. Keep onto me.. I'm always making spelling/and typos.
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Post by matte on Jun 8, 2021 20:03:41 GMT 10
I totally agree, the 50 percent of the over 70's who have refused thus far need to roll their sleeves up and get the jab. It is selfish that they don't considering to the risks to that age group:
People have to ‘stop being selfish’ when it comes to the vaccine
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Post by matte on Jun 11, 2021 13:24:12 GMT 10
Pfizer and Moderna vaccines causing inflammation of the heart in younger people. CDC plans "emergency meeting" on rare heart inflammation following COVID-19 vaccinesBY ALEXANDER TIN JUNE 10, 2021 CBS NEWS The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Thursday that it will convene an "emergency meeting" of its advisers on June 18th to discuss rare but higher-than-expected reports of heart inflammation following doses of the mRNA-based Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines. So far, the CDC has identified 226 reports that might meet the agency's "working case definition" of myocarditis and pericarditis following the shots, the agency disclosed Thursday. The vast majority have recovered, but 41 had ongoing symptoms, 15 are still hospitalized, and 3 are in the intensive care unit. FULL STORY: www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-myocarditis-heart-inflammation-cdc/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab6a&linkId=121053070
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Post by caskur on Jun 12, 2021 1:00:20 GMT 10
I asked my 59 year old sister who works in age care if she has had the covid jab and she said no, it isn't compulsory YET in WA and if they do make it compulsory, she is leaving her job.
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Post by pim on Jun 12, 2021 6:04:54 GMT 10
Who’s saying anything about making it compulsory? What a beat-up. However it may well become a condition of employment in sectors such as aged care, or a “no-vaccination-certificate-no-boarding-pass” condition of air travel. That’s fine. You don’t have to travel by air and you don’t have to work in aged care.
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Post by caskur on Jun 12, 2021 6:43:25 GMT 10
Who’s saying anything about making it compulsory? What a beat-up. However it may well become a condition of employment in sectors such as aged care, or a “no-vaccination-certificate-no-boarding-pass” condition of air travel. That’s fine. You don’t have to travel by air and you don’t have to work in aged care. well the WA community has never had an outbreak in it... so we don't really need to risk death by taking an inferior vaccine like shitty Astra Zeneca or whatever that shit is called. My sister/s already both have varicose veins.
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Post by pim on Jun 12, 2021 7:09:21 GMT 10
Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly says vaccination against Covid important in regional AustraliaSally Whyte 12 June 2021 www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7293963/its-an-arms-race-kelly-says-dont-wait-on-jab/?cs=14264Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly said even regional and rural areas shouldn't wait to get vaccinatedIt could change at any time. That's the message from the Australian Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly to people across regional and rural Australians who think there is no hurry to get vaccinated against COVID-19. In an exclusive interview as part of ACM's Vax the Nation campaign, Professor Kelly said it was understandable many Australians might not feel a sense of urgency around vaccination, but the threat from the virus wasn't going away. "A month ago, we had gone through 13 days of zero cases in Australia. And then there were a few cases in Melbourne that popped and and we've made that link with an escape from hotel quarantine," he said. While this outbreak seems to be under control, the lockdown has still been hugely disruptive and created a risk for vulnerable people in the community. In countries where COVID-19 has run rampant, vaccination has been used to keep people safe and allow the economy to open up. The situation is different in Australia, where the economy is largely open, but government modelling shows the more people who are vaccinated, the easier it will be for outbreaks to be controlled when they happen. Outside of Melbourne, most of Australia hasn't experienced real risk of contracting the virus in the community, but towns like Forbes, Moree and Goondiwindi, named as exposure sites for the virus after a couple infected with coronavirus travelled through, show the virus isn't only an issue in one or two cities. "It looks like they probably were infected some time ago, non infectious, the couple that travelled, but that's how it would start, it could start at any time," Professor Kelly said. "And eventually, we're going to open up the borders. We have to. Not straightaway, but the virus will come here. And I think there's a rising realisation that we will have to live with the virus in Australia." Vaccination isn't only about making a decision to protect yourself, but protecting those around you, he said. "The more people that are vaccinated, that's our way of protecting each other and ourselves." Professor Kelly encouraged a rethink on getting vaccinated, pointing out the lightning-fast development of multiple options was something to celebrate. "This is a huge privilege that we have, to have a vaccine so quickly that works so well, and is for the vast majority of people very safe. Now's the time if you're eligible, please roll up the sleeves and get the jab." Studies of vaccine hesitancy in Australia show about a third of Australians say they are unlikely to get the vaccine, and Professor Kelly said those who were nervous about side effects shouldn't be afraid to chat about their options with their doctor. "That's a very reasonable human experience to be nervous about something that's new," he said. "Take note of the medical experts, they've done all of that work about balancing risk and benefit, but also talk to your GP and get that that message from your your trusted advisor, because they know you, they know your particular circumstances." Acknowledging there is some consternation in the community among people in their 50s, who feel close to the age cut off at which currently only the AstraZeneca vaccine is available, Professor Kelly said vaccination wasn't compulsory. "There is a choice, the choice is to wait. Now I don't think that's the right choice," he said. "The benefit for people in their 50s to have the vaccine right now outweighs the risk by a long way. There is a risk of dying of Covid, there is a risk of very serious Covid, there is a risk of long Covid and 50-year-olds are at higher risk than 40-year-olds and 30-year-olds, and the risk of this clotting issue is extremely low." Australia's vaccine rollout is set to move up a level in the coming weeks, with the first people to receive the AstraZeneca vaccine to begin receiving their second doses, and the weekly delivery of Pfizer vaccine doses to double to around 600,000 a week. The government is also in talks with Pfizer in the hope the bigger shipments of their vaccines scheduled for October can be brought forward to September.
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Post by caskur on Jun 12, 2021 8:06:47 GMT 10
It's very important we knock off 50+ women as fast as we can. They're not needed.
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Post by pim on Jun 12, 2021 9:36:41 GMT 10
I wonder what that incoherent but intriguing sentence means.
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Post by matte on Jun 12, 2021 9:47:39 GMT 10
I wonder what that incoherent but intriguing sentence means. It was inferring that the reason why they are restricting the AstraZeneca vaccine for the 50+ age group is because they want them to get blood clots and die as they are no longer providing economic benefit to society. I disagree with what was said as I believe God giveth life and God taketh life, not a vaccine. We need to get the over 70s vaccinated so they don't get Covid-19 and literally die of asphyxiation as they succumb to the symptoms.
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Post by pim on Jun 12, 2021 9:56:52 GMT 10
Ya gotta love the conspiracy theories that swirl and fester in Toots’ feverish imagination
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Post by ponto on Jun 12, 2021 12:08:47 GMT 10
Millions vaccinated and 3 deaths...you would think the government would have a better way of bumping off people.
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Post by matte on Jun 12, 2021 13:31:46 GMT 10
This woman is a doctor:
Ohio Doctor Falsely Claims Covid Vaccines Are Magnetized
Ohio doctor and conspiracy theorist, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, falsely claims that the Covid-19 vaccine is “magnetizing” people. After stating the protein in the vaccine has a metal attached to it, she said, “you can put a key on their forehead, it sticks.”
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Post by Gort on Jun 12, 2021 13:50:23 GMT 10
This woman is a doctor: Ohio Doctor Falsely Claims Covid Vaccines Are MagnetizedOhio doctor and conspiracy theorist, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, falsely claims that the Covid-19 vaccine is “magnetizing” people. After stating the protein in the vaccine has a metal attached to it, she said, “you can put a key on their forehead, it sticks.” Well, yes - if a person has oily skin, a key will stick! BTW, most keys are brass and are not magnetic. Also, she's a nutter.
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Post by matte on Jun 12, 2021 16:27:01 GMT 10
This woman is a doctor: Ohio Doctor Falsely Claims Covid Vaccines Are MagnetizedOhio doctor and conspiracy theorist, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, falsely claims that the Covid-19 vaccine is “magnetizing” people. After stating the protein in the vaccine has a metal attached to it, she said, “you can put a key on their forehead, it sticks.” Well, yes - if a person has oily skin, a key will stick! BTW, most keys are brass and are not magnetic. Also, she's a nutter. She is a complete nutter. The vulnerable need to be encouraged to take it.
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Post by caskur on Jun 12, 2021 17:19:33 GMT 10
Ya gotta love the conspiracy theories that swirl and fester in Toots’ feverish imagination Male society don't want old women in it. They only want fuckable females. 50+ aren't fuckable according to them.
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Post by matte on Jun 12, 2021 17:29:29 GMT 10
Ya gotta love the conspiracy theories that swirl and fester in Toots’ feverish imagination Male society don't want old women in it. They only want fuckable females. 50+ aren't fuckable according to them. There are a lot of young men who want cougars.
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Post by pim on Jun 12, 2021 18:24:12 GMT 10
(at this point Pim quietly leaves the thread, closes the door softly and leaves Matt to his mansplaining about cougars to a doubtless appreciative Toots who surely is hanging all agog on every word - lol)
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Post by caskur on Jun 12, 2021 20:38:51 GMT 10
Male society don't want old women in it. They only want fuckable females. 50+ aren't fuckable according to them. There are a lot of young men who want cougars. oh my goodness... thanks Matte for putting a genuine smile on my dial today!!!~
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