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Post by pim on May 6, 2019 15:09:33 GMT 10
Translation of a sign seen in French churches these days ... Boom boom
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Post by KTJ on May 6, 2019 16:34:31 GMT 10
The gullible will no doubt have delusionary thoughts that the 16 Hz frequency of bottom-C on the 32-foot ranks of pipes in the organ is actually god speaking to them.
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Post by pim on May 6, 2019 17:54:03 GMT 10
Wow, that would have to qualify as The Most Boring Response Ever to a tongue-in-cheek bit of flippancy on the Religion Thread. Problem with people like you Quasimodo with your half-baked superficial sloganeering is you lose all sense of irony. It's robbed you of your sense of humour. And. That. Is. Sooo. Boring.
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Post by KTJ on May 8, 2019 9:42:33 GMT 10
Talking to that fictional 15th-century character from a fictional 19th-century novel again, I see.
Go and check out the Joe Bennett thread on the General Board.
I have proposed a new scientific law named after you.
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Post by pim on May 8, 2019 13:56:35 GMT 10
Quasimodo your lack of knowledge, lack of insight and utter and abysmal lack of irony leaves you totally bereft of anything remotely resembling a sense of humour. You're so unsophisticated, such a hobbledehoy and so ignorant that you don't even realise that you're ignorant. Everything you post is half-baked and deformed. You're grotesque. I've named you well. You had to google "Quasimodo" to know who the character is. All I had to do was delve into my encyclopaedic filing cabinet mind. But keep up the mantras if it amuses you. Your "Quasimodo" posts are already repetitive, childish, stupid and boring. Carry on ...
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Post by KTJ on May 8, 2019 14:19:52 GMT 10
And still you talk to that 15th century fictional character.
Now if you were talking to jesus christ, I could understand it, seeing as you were brainwashed with that god, jesus christ and holy spirit stuff when you were young & impressionable, but a fictional 15th century character? Faaaaaaaark ... get medical help before it is too late!!
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Post by KTJ on Jul 18, 2019 20:34:56 GMT 10
And so primitive man invented religion…
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Post by pim on Jul 18, 2019 21:58:28 GMT 10
Did he? The First People of the island continent call it their Dreaming. No priests, no bishops, no cardinals and no pope. Not anything that purports to be a historical/factual account of the beginning of everything but a cosmology that defines, guides and shapes their relationship to the land. Worked for them for 60 000 years. Still does, according to Australian blackfellas. In fact rather than being a handicap the First People of the island continent regard their Dreaming as the best thing they have going for them and the core criticism that they make of whitefellas is “whitefella got no Dreaming”. Their argument is that if ever whitefellas are to give themselves a chance of truly being at home on the land they stole from the blackfellas by reconciling with the blackfellas they could start by taking the blackfellas’ Dreaming seriously. It’s a sophisticated cosmology which your philistine disdain for anything that smacks of the cosmological prevents you from appreciating.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 14:35:41 GMT 10
The first major architectural achievements were in building temples to the gods. Pyramids, Parthenon, Pantheon,and later, cathedrals with their spires and lofty vaulted ceilings.
A science evolved in the minds of men as they worshiped their deities
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jul 24, 2019 5:56:54 GMT 10
Many sciences owe their existence to religion.
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Post by pim on Jul 25, 2019 10:46:45 GMT 10
Isaac Newton was a deeply religious man. His laws of motion which form the basis of modern physics were not in opposition to his faith, but were informed by it.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jul 27, 2019 9:44:21 GMT 10
Isaac Newton was a deeply religious man. His laws of motion which form the basis of modern physics were not in opposition to his faith, but were informed by it. If I'm not mistaken, he was a priest was he not?
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Post by pim on Jul 27, 2019 10:05:56 GMT 10
Isaac Newton was a deeply religious man. His laws of motion which form the basis of modern physics were not in opposition to his faith, but were informed by it. If I'm not mistaken, he was a priest was he not? If by that you mean that he was a Catholic, no he most certainly was not. He was baptised Anglican, as was routine in the England of Newton's day and was born into a clergyman's family. I'll skip over the biographical stuff because the Wikipedia link goes into it in some detail. It's worth reading and your question prompted me to investigate it for myself. Here's the link en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Isaac_NewtonI was right in saying that Newton was a deeply religious man and that his faith informed his work as the "father" of modern physics. Here's a sample from Wiki regarding Newton's religious views. He may well have been born an Anglican but he and orthodox Anglicanism (as in the "39 Articles") had well and truly parted company as he debated theology with such luminaries of his day as John Locke and Leibniz. Apparently Newton rejected Trinitarianism and as a consequence argued that the worship of Jesus as God was tantamount to idolatry. Muslims and Jews should like him. I don't know if they do.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 1, 2019 8:40:04 GMT 10
Thank you, pim. No, I wasn't implying that he was Catholic. I just remember reading about one of the modern fathers of science being clergy, I'm just not certain which one.
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Post by pim on Aug 1, 2019 16:57:34 GMT 10
Charles Darwin was born into a clergyman's family. In fact I have a feeling that Darwin had been destined for the clergy. He was no atheist! I reject utterly the idea that Darwinian evolution is synonymous with atheism. By the same token I also reject the "First Cause" argument that Newton put forward in his "Clockwork Universe" model. I have to go. Other stuff happening. I'll return to this topic. If the usual trolls run interference in the meantime then I'll do a workaround.
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Post by KTJ on Aug 1, 2019 19:40:33 GMT 10
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Post by fat on Aug 12, 2019 0:32:29 GMT 10
Why a claw hammer - is that to pull the nails out?
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 13, 2019 4:04:46 GMT 10
Denial is the most predictable of all human responses.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 13, 2019 11:54:59 GMT 10
Isaac Newton was a deeply religious man. His laws of motion which form the basis of modern physics were not in opposition to his faith, but were informed by it. Interestingly enough, Isaac Newton also made a prophetic declaration: “About the time of the end, a body of men will be raised up who will turn their attention to the Prophecies, and insist upon their literal interpretation, in the midst of much clamor and opposition.”
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Post by KTJ on Aug 13, 2019 17:33:33 GMT 10
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Post by pim on Aug 13, 2019 18:09:51 GMT 10
Isaac Newton apparently did. And he knew a shitload more about how the universe works than the rest of us put together. Think he was delusional? Ask the nuclear physicists and plasma physicists researching cold fusion technology at CERN.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 14, 2019 5:05:27 GMT 10
Wow... you are like an idiot savant... without the "savant", part.
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Post by KTJ on Aug 14, 2019 9:08:45 GMT 10
Yes, Sporky ... if that is what you wish to believe.
Mind you, considering you also believe the god delusion inside your mind is a real god, well that kinda says it all about what you believe.
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Post by pim on Aug 14, 2019 11:15:51 GMT 10
When you look up data on the number of scientists down through the ages whose contribution to secular science is monumental while at the same time they professed - and continue to profess - a devout and deep Christian faith, it seems that Prickles is so full of hubris that he'd write off a most distinguished list of Christians as "delusional". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technologyEach to his own hubris I guess ...
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 15, 2019 0:53:37 GMT 10
Yes, Sporky ... if that is what you wish to believe. Mind you, considering you also believe the god delusion inside your mind is a real god, well that kinda says it all about what you believe. Well, there is only two options: 1. Your mind is designed by an Intelligent Agent outside of our finite universe, and is thus, reliable. Or 2. Your mind is the byproduct of raw natural forces and has no more significance than a cosmic belch. If you accept the latter, why ought anything you have to say even be considered? There is no truth standard of the way things 'ought' to be with Natural processes. Things simply are.
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