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Post by slartibartfast on Aug 8, 2016 23:49:39 GMT 10
Because you're so narcissistic that you can't imagine a universe without you.
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Post by KTJ on Aug 9, 2016 2:21:07 GMT 10
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Post by pim on Aug 9, 2016 10:21:41 GMT 10
Troll alert
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Post by pim on Aug 9, 2016 10:32:44 GMT 10
You know what they say: be alert; your country needs lerts
Boom tish
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Post by KTJ on Aug 9, 2016 11:00:29 GMT 10
↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ clicky-thingy
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Post by slartibartfast on Aug 9, 2016 20:24:15 GMT 10
Que? How about being on topic? Do you believe in an afterlife? If yes, what makes you so important that you can live forever? If not, do you agree that believing that you need an afterlife makes you a narcissist?
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Post by sonex on Aug 10, 2016 8:14:37 GMT 10
Que? How about being on topic? Do you believe in an afterlife? If yes, what makes you so important that you can live forever? If not, do you agree that believing that you need an afterlife makes you a narcissist? No, I don't think so, I think its because most of us enjoy being a alive and would like this to continue.
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Post by pim on Aug 10, 2016 9:08:05 GMT 10
Why do you post on this board, slarti? I don't have a problem with atheists or atheism as such and I reject Jody's argument that atheism is "just another religion". It isn't. I also dismiss as sophistry Occam's claim that the absence of belief in itself constitutes belief. If this board consisted of people like Occam and me I've no doubt we'd be in permanent debate. A religious echo chamber it would definitely not be.
I respect atheism. It's a rich and valid intellectual position to hold. I can't share it but that doesn't mean I possess a monopoly on "truth". So I can't say that because I struggle with atheism as a concept therefore atheism is somehow "wrong". But by the same token neither can I say that because I struggle with religious belief (and the Christian idea of the afterlife is something I struggle mightily with) therefore I treat with scorn and contempt all religious belief and dismiss it haughtily as something of no value.
So if I believe in anything it's respect. Disrespect leads to arrogance which leads to hubris ... the end point of which is totalitarian tyranny. So I return to my question: why do you post on this board? I don't know offhand how long this iteration of NTB has been up and running. You tell me. It's been more than a couple of years. The General board in my view works fine in the sense that with the march of events reported in the news and on current affairs programs there's always something new to talk and argue about. The loopy fruitcake extreme right have by and large vacated the scene and I'm glad that Stellar pops in from time to time. Not that I agree with her, I don't! But she stops the place from becoming an echo chamber. The problem is with the Religion Board in the sense that it gets trolled by people who have an agenda not of engaging people in civilised and courteous debate or discussion but to confront, to insult to humiliate and to disrespect. I repeat, atheism has a distinguished lineage. If you're an atheist you're in distinguished company. I'd call Bertrand Russell, David Attenborough and Christopher Hitchens distinguished company and there's no shortage of names, both living and deceased, that I could add to that list. But, and here's the kicker, none of them - and I repeat none of them - have advocated some sort of atheist tyranny where you're continually subjected to a barrage of insults, ridicule and disrespect if you dare to pop your head up on the Religion Board (!!!) and timidly dare to express and profess your religious faith. That’s atheistic fascism and I'm sorry Slarti I realise that you and I go back a long way in friendship through several nics but I differ with you sharply on this one. Your posts on the General Board are valuable, interesting and important because they're fresh and topical. I might agree or disagree or I might have a different emphasis here or there but that's cool. Isn't it? I think so at any rate. Yorick has accused me of attacking you on the General Board and my response has always been to "let slarti be the judge of this" and your subsequent silence can only be taken to mean that on the General Board you don't share Yorick's accusations of me regarding you. To view it otherwise would be to portray you as some sort of victim and that would be insulting. It would also be wrong. But here on the Religion Board over the years you don't appear to have anything new to say. It's always the same thing. Basically it's KTJs crass Trump-like club footed boofheadedness only couched in more sophisticated language. But the agenda is the same. It's quite frankly boring.
So I ask again: why do you post on this Religion Board if for the past few years you haven't said anything new?
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Post by slartibartfast on Aug 10, 2016 9:44:16 GMT 10
Haven't said anything new? Pretty sure I haven't mentioned the alleged existence of an afterlife before.
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Post by pim on Aug 10, 2016 12:50:34 GMT 10
OK I get it.
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Post by KTJ on Aug 10, 2016 13:24:39 GMT 10
Okay, to change the topic somewhat....
The word “FUCK”
Perhaps one of the most interesting and colourful words in the English language today is the word “Fuck”. It is the one magical word which, just by its sound, can describe pain, pleasure, love and hate.
In language, “Fuck” falls into many grammatical categories. It can be used as a verb, both transitive: Mary fucked John; and intransitive: John was fucked by Mary. It can be an action verb: John really gives a fuck; a passive verb: Mary really doesn't give a fuck; an adverb: Mary is fucking interested in John; or as a noun: Mary is a terrific fuck. It can also be used as an adjective: Mary is fucking beautiful; or an interjective: Fuck! I'm late for my date with Mary. It can even be used as a conjunction: John is easy, fuck he's also stupid. As you can see, there are very few words with the overall versatility of the word “Fuck”. Aside from it's sexual connotations, this incredible word can be used to describe many situations.
Greetings: “How the fuck are ya?”.
Fraud: “I got fucked by the car dealer”.
Resignation: “Oh fuck it”.
Trouble: “I guess I'm fucked now”.
Aggression: “FUCK YOU”.
Disgust “Fuck me”.
Confusion: “What the fuck.....”.
Difficulty: “I don't understand this fucking business”.
Despair: “Fucked again”.
Pleasure: “I fucking couldn't be happier”.
Displeasure: “What the fuck is going on here”.
Lost: “Where the fuck am I?”
Disbelief: “Unfuckingbelievable!!”
Retaliation: “Up your fucking ass!”
Denial: “I didn't fucking do it”.
Perplexity: “I know fuck all about it”.
Apathy: “Who really gives a fuck, anyhow?”
Love: “I fucking love you”.
Suspicion: “Who the fuck are you”.
Panic: “Lets get the fuck out of here”.
Directions: “Fuck off”.
Disbelief: “How the fuck did you do that?”
It can be used in an anatomical description: “He's a fucking asshole”.
It can be used to tell time: “It's five fucking thirty”.
It can be used in business: “How did I wind up with this fucking job?”
It can be maternal: “Motherfucker!”
It can be political: “Fuck George W Bush!”
It has also been used by many notable people throughout history:
“What the fuck was that?” —— Mayor of Hiroshima.
“Where did all these fucking indians come from?” —— General Custer.
“Where the fuck is all this water coming from?” —— Captain of the Titanic.
“Thats not a real fucking gun!” —— John Lennon.
“Who's going to fucking find out?” —— Richard Nixon.
“I didn't fucking kill my wife!” —— OJ Simpson.
“You want what on the fucking ceiling?” —— Michaelangelo.
“Fuck a duck!” —— Walt Disney.
“Yo bitch, wanna fuck?” —— Mike Tyson.
“Why? Because it's fucking there!” —— Sir Edmond Hillary.
“I don't suppose its gonna fucking rain?” —— Joan of Arc.
And last, but not least....
“I didn't fuck Monica!!” —— Bill Clinton.
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Post by pim on Aug 10, 2016 22:58:40 GMT 10
Wherever you got your grammar from, that guy needs grammar lessons. But never mind. Clusterfuck is a better word.
Question: what is the perfect Clusterfuck?
Answer: the 2016 Australian census.
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Post by KTJ on Aug 11, 2016 13:35:04 GMT 10
Whatever...
Anyway, whenever I am working early shift (starting at 4:00am), I eat my breakfast with a runcible spoon while the train is climbing into the Rimutaka Range, then passing through the 8.8km-long Rimutaka Tunnel to the Wellington side of the mountains. It just seems to be the most sensible utensil to use for eating stew, or cottage pie in the morning while driving a train at the same time as eating.
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Post by pim on Aug 11, 2016 13:51:19 GMT 10
A runcible spoon? You mean a spork? Or a foon?
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Post by pim on Aug 11, 2016 15:42:20 GMT 10
Thet's viry umprissuv, Yoruck. I dudn't know you could speak New Zuland
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Post by KTJ on Aug 11, 2016 18:27:11 GMT 10
A runcible spoon? You mean a spork? Or a foon? All one and the same. But “ runcible spoon” sounds classier than spork or foon. Mind you, the term runcible spoon was originally a manufactured name for the famous ditty/poem about the owl and the pussycat.
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Post by pim on Aug 12, 2016 8:00:53 GMT 10
Do tell
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Post by KTJ on Aug 12, 2016 8:50:16 GMT 10
Come on....you're an ex-school teacher.... Surely you know the story about Edward Lear and his manufactured word; and his friend George Runcy?
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Post by Occam's Spork on Sept 19, 2016 0:53:22 GMT 10
Because you're so narcissistic that you can't imagine a universe without you. Begs the question... What if the afterlife indeed exists? The atheists would be considered arrogant for denying a concept embraced by the human majority.
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Post by slartibartfast on Sept 19, 2016 9:06:10 GMT 10
Because you're so narcissistic that you can't imagine a universe without you. Begs the question... What if the afterlife indeed exists? The atheists would be considered arrogant for denying a concept embraced by the human majority. It is not arrogant to not believe in something that not a single ounce of proof exist for. Unless of course you have proof to the contrary, I'm all ears.
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Post by KTJ on Sept 19, 2016 10:35:50 GMT 10
Because you're so narcissistic that you can't imagine a universe without you. Begs the question... What if the afterlife indeed exists? The atheists would be considered arrogant for denying a concept embraced by the human majority. I can travel across the universe at 100-times the speed of light and have visited millions of planets throughout my lifespan so far. I don't have to offer any proof but merely invite you to have faith that I can do so and believe it accordingly. Just like you expect us to have faith and believe in your god and the afterlife.
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Post by pim on Sept 19, 2016 12:26:05 GMT 10
... Just like you expect us to have faith and believe in your god and the afterlife. That’s a lie and you know it. Occam is not shy about proclaiming and defending his religious faith and, while I don't share it, I'll go on defending his right to defend, proclaim and debate his faith on the Religion Board. Your lie is to accuse Occam of "expecting" the rest of us to become religious converts. He’s done no such thing. Neither has Fat. By accusing Occam of "expecting" the rest of us to drop everything and join the hallelujah chorus you're accusing him of religious fascism and I'll defend Occam against that slander - particularly against the likes of you. The ones who have attempted to project their religious fascism are Skippy and Matt. To put Occam in that category is to perpetrate the sort of slander which is part and parcel of the atheist fascism I encounter on this past-its-use-by-date board, trolled as it is by Trumplike boofheads like you.
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Post by slartibartfast on Sept 19, 2016 17:10:39 GMT 10
I expect you to respect KTJ's right to show up Occam's waffle for the waffle it is.
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Post by pim on Sept 19, 2016 17:30:25 GMT 10
Slarti I enthusiastically called out Matt's and Skippy's religious fascism and I do the same to atheist fascism. Does that mean I think that all who profess religious faith are fascists. Certainly not! Does it mean that I think that atheism equates to fascism? Give me a break.
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Post by KTJ on Sept 19, 2016 17:50:53 GMT 10
Athiest? What is that?? I have NEVER claimed to be an athiest.
What I have always claimed is that I am a REALIST.
I refuse to believe in unproven, or unmeasurable bullshit, instead prefering the REALITY of what I can see or hear or feel or touch or taste or smell or measure.
It is those religious FUCKHEADS who invented the lable label of ATHIEST and stuck it on those who refuse to blindly believe bullshit.
(NOTE: had to “edit” a simple mistake there.....a case of hitting the POST button too quickly without first checking the order my fingers had typed the letters in what I posted)
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