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Post by garfield on Jan 20, 2013 19:58:21 GMT 10
Single mums turn to brothels, stripping after dole cutsSOME single mothers hit by recent welfare cuts to parenting payments have turned to prostitution and strip clubs in order to keep a roof over their family's head. The payment cuts came in at the start of 2013 and affect 84,000 single parents, mostly mothers who received parenting payments. The majority have been shifted onto the Newstart unemployment allowance when their youngest child turns eight. More than 60,000 single parents now receive between $60 to $100 a week less under entitlement changes. While the budget will look $728 million better over four years and make the system more sustainable, welfare groups have been concerned families will fall into poverty. A spokeswoman from a Brisbane brothel told AAP there had been "influx'' in applications from single mothers looking for work since the welfare changes came through. www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/single-mums-turn-to-brothels-stripping-after-dole-cuts/comments-fncz7kyc-1226557585760
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Post by bender on Jan 20, 2013 20:08:29 GMT 10
What are you complaining about Dopey, this is your best chance yet to score a fuck....
Then again, perhaps you'd better wait a while, simply not being able to feed their kids probably doesn't mean they're desperate enough to let you in the door.
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Post by garfield on Jan 20, 2013 20:10:38 GMT 10
Maybe they'll open up a brothel with farm animals then you could get laid too.
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Post by bender on Jan 20, 2013 20:13:30 GMT 10
Most people grow out of "I know you are" as their primary method of rebuttal when they're about 7.
Grade 3 must have been the hardest 5 years of your life......
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Post by garfield on Jan 20, 2013 20:15:17 GMT 10
Oink oink, Charlottes waiting for you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 20:16:23 GMT 10
And Garfield has the chutzpah to accuse others of stupidity.
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Post by slartibartfast on Jan 20, 2013 20:22:11 GMT 10
Salem and Stellar and blue David will tell us about how abusive lefties supposedly are.
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Post by garfield on Jan 20, 2013 20:25:29 GMT 10
They'd be right too, I only defend myself after they start on me, which in this case is after only one post, usually it takes two or three but you can guarantee the left will resort to abuse eventually, thats all they've got. ;D
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Post by slartibartfast on Jan 20, 2013 20:32:31 GMT 10
You started this one.
That's what it means when your name is next to the title on the front page.
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Post by garfield on Jan 20, 2013 20:37:55 GMT 10
I'm still waiting for an intelligent comment on the opening story ... and if I have to count on you I'll be waiting for fucking ever ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 20:40:40 GMT 10
I'm still waiting for an intelligent comment You and intelligent debate is an oxymoron.
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Post by matt on Jan 20, 2013 22:44:33 GMT 10
It is shocking that women are having to turn to this filthy profession. I believe prostitution should be illegal, it serves no purpose.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 5:01:49 GMT 10
It is shocking that women are having to turn to this filthy profession. I believe prostitution should be illegal, it serves no purpose. Really ? I guess you should know
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Post by matt on Jan 21, 2013 7:11:56 GMT 10
It is immoral and a scourge on society. The only thing it does is fund criminal syndicates.
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Post by garfield on Jan 21, 2013 7:21:58 GMT 10
You're a scourge on society ya fkn idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 8:39:02 GMT 10
It is immoral and a scourge on society. The only thing it does is fund criminal syndicates. Is that why it's legal?
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Post by bender on Jan 21, 2013 9:16:59 GMT 10
Garfield wants an intelligent response?
Given the fact that you've latched on to a news story like this, an intelligent response is wasted on you.
Single parents lose $60 to $100 a week under this plan.
Women are turning to brothels where they can earn $1,000 a day?
It's fairly obvious Garfield that you're incapable of understanding a beat up story. This is more of a bat off story for you.
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Post by Salem on Jan 21, 2013 19:43:48 GMT 10
Its a valid news story and the lefties have no recourse and no answer so they personally abuse. Same old same old. If Darjeeling or Sonex posted this they'd react differently.
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Post by Salem on Jan 21, 2013 19:46:22 GMT 10
It is immoral and a scourge on society. The only thing it does is fund criminal syndicates. Its no more or less immoral than having a child out of wedlock and not getting married, Matt. Also, Jesus hung out with prostitutes. He had no problem with them. Its the oldest profession and it isn't going anywhere.
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Post by jody on Jan 21, 2013 20:11:59 GMT 10
Yes didn't Jesus say when people were ready to stone Mary Magdalene, "those of you who have not sinned, cast the first stone".
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Post by pim on Jan 21, 2013 21:14:36 GMT 10
It is immoral and a scourge on society. The only thing it does is fund criminal syndicates. Its no more or less immoral than having a child out of wedlock and not getting married, Matt. Also, Jesus hung out with prostitutes. He had no problem with them. Its the oldest profession and it isn't going anywhere. This has to be a first. I'm not saying that I 100% agree with Salem here because I don't accept that having children out of wedlock equates with funding criminal syndicates. To be fair to you Salem I don't think that's what you really meant either but, taking the literal meaning of what you posted in response to Matt's fundamentalist raving, that was what is implied. But I won't give you a hard time about it because I kinda agree with the thrust of your post. The rest of my post is to Matt: The thing about whores is that the business they're in is not necessarily "immoral". My understanding of "immoral" is that an activity is "immoral" if it fails to con form "to the patterns of conduct usually accepted or established as consistent with principles of personal and social ethics". Now we live in a capitalist society. I've got nothing against capitalism. I've always freely acknowledged that I support Labor and Labor's opponents always throw the label "socialist" at it. Socialist, my arse! Labor is every bit as much a Big Government capitalist party as the Liberals. I mention that because I want to make clear that we live in a society whose capitalist values are cherished, nurtured and defended by both sides of politics. Prostitution is not viewed as "immoral" by our capitalist society and indeed is regarded as a perfectly valid legal commercial activity. The transaction is perfectly straightforward. The product is sex. The consumer pays and the sex worker delivers. If you accept capitalism as the best economic basis of social organisation, and if you believe the less restrictions placed on capitalism the better - in other words if you accept the idea of the "Invisible Hand" - then what's your problem?
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Post by Salem on Jan 21, 2013 22:51:12 GMT 10
Yes Pim, thats what I meant. I personally don't believe having children out of wedlock is a crime or even a moral crime. But I remember Matt saying he and his girlfriend aren't married. Yet according to his Bible, thats immoral.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 9:20:51 GMT 10
Look I really don't care what these women do to get off the pension - a job is a job I suppose and as someone pointed out, they can earn quite a lot in those sorts of occupations. Not ideal I suppose for mothers, but women do resort to prostitution and often quite willingly. The main thing is to address the huge numbers of young girls choosing single motherhood as a career option. To go to the top of lists for housing, to be given everything for free or subsidised while the poor old working taxpayers - especially those on minimal wages - battle it out every day trying to make a living but getting no assistance at all and who are often worse off than the welfare scammers.
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Post by caskur on Jan 22, 2013 23:31:02 GMT 10
Single mums turn to brothels, stripping after dole cutsSOME single mothers hit by recent welfare cuts to parenting payments have turned to prostitution and strip clubs in order to keep a roof over their family's head. The payment cuts came in at the start of 2013 and affect 84,000 single parents, mostly mothers who received parenting payments. The majority have been shifted onto the Newstart unemployment allowance when their youngest child turns eight. More than 60,000 single parents now receive between $60 to $100 a week less under entitlement changes. While the budget will look $728 million better over four years and make the system more sustainable, welfare groups have been concerned families will fall into poverty. A spokeswoman from a Brisbane brothel told AAP there had been "influx'' in applications from single mothers looking for work since the welfare changes came through. www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/single-mums-turn-to-brothels-stripping-after-dole-cuts/comments-fncz7kyc-1226557585760 Again... tough luck. The seeds of social problems we have now, were sown 30 yrs ago.. it's going to get worse. Everyone were warned and they took no note.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2013 6:42:31 GMT 10
Many young girls were lured into having babies with the Costello conceived notion of a baby bonus, the seeds were sown for unemployed girls to be mothers and care not for work or education, life's a ball on the rock and roll...considered also is what these young people receive from charities...food, clothing, TV.s, fridges, washing machines, money for rent and tickets to the movies for their kids and wait there is more...all from money given by donation and largely government funding to these corperate charities.
Back in the old days raising kids families received a meager child endowment of a few bucks a month to help out, raising kids one had to work, including single mothers.
What has been spawned due to the Howard years of welfare largess for young girls (and the middle class) is a problem Labor inherited is the expectation of rather than contributing to society is to take from society and do not contribute.
And another example of where Howard wasted the golden years rather than spending on infrastructure, education and health, it was a handout mentality that was created. Expect more of the same if Abbott wins the next poll.
No one is forcing women into prostitution if they have time to do that then they have time to look for meaning full work, which is available.
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