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Post by jody on Jan 20, 2013 8:45:12 GMT 10
It amazes me people will try to argue this. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 9:49:45 GMT 10
There are gullible people everywhere. If a company like Nike pays $3.8 million for a Super Bowl ad and someone like Michael Jordan $80 million per year to plug their products, I simply would not buy that product because you're paying for it in the cost of the shoe. Also Nike is willing to pay a fortune to a few sportspeople to endorse their products whilst only paying a pittance to workers in Asia to manufacture the products.
Watching a violent movie for 2 hours will have no effect on the majority of viewers who are rational and grounded but too many viewers are not. And of course a lot of kids are being desensitized to violence through gratuitously violent movies and video games. When they go on a rampage of shooting and death, they are just emulating those heroes whose only solution to a problem is to kill their adversaries.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 9:55:39 GMT 10
There are gullible people everywhere. We call them Coalition Voterer So watching a violent movie will not effect you, but playing violent video games will. Oh...Kay.... |
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Post by volk on Jan 20, 2013 13:18:44 GMT 10
There are gullible people everywhere. We call them Coalition Voterer So watching a violent movie will not effect you, but playing violent video games will. Oh...Kay.... That's not exactly how I read it. I got the impression Stellar was saying a majority of viewers aren't affected by violence in movies, but some are. I also think she's right in that people, particularly younger people, are becoming desensitised to the violence in videos and movies. I didn't see a statement comparing videos and movies? |
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Post by bender on Jan 20, 2013 15:03:53 GMT 10
I really don't know if watching violent movies desensitises you to violence. There's a fairly wide gulf between watching something on a tv screen and seeing it or experiencing it in person. I've never heard of a person sitting in a movie theatre in a state of shock for two or three hours after the end credits have rolled.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 16:36:47 GMT 10
That's not exactly how I read it. I got the impression Stellar was saying a majority of viewers aren't affected by violence in movies, but some are. I also think she's right in that people, particularly younger people, are becoming desensitised to the violence in videos and movies. I didn't see a statement comparing videos and movies? Well lets analyse what she stated then, Funny, but it does appear that Stellar seems to have contradicted herself. I might also point out, aside from that the profile of the average gamer being an adult male, video games are rated. So it's not that likely that kids would be playing violent video games (they're made for an adult audience anyway). Besides which, I don't recall any of of the culprits of the latest massacres ever using movies or games as an excuse for their carrying out their atrocities. Using Stellar's logic, do we blame Heavy Metal, if some Head-Banger Kid tops himself ? Does listening to The Specials' 'The Boiler' mean I'm going to go out and rape some woman tomorrow ? |
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Post by caskur on Jan 20, 2013 18:44:43 GMT 10
It amazes me people will try to argue this. good point... |
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Post by jody on Jan 20, 2013 18:55:50 GMT 10
I am absolutely certain violent movies desensitises people. I have seen the proof of it too many times....myself included. Just look at what kids can watch these days without batting an eyelid. Rubbish like Saw and Hostel just to name two. I haven't been scared in actual scary/horror/violent movie since I was a kid. I look at the movies that did scare me years back and omg, they are so bad, so not scary and quite laughable now. They clearly desensitised me so now I am quite unaffected by the blood and gore and very real special effects in todays movies.....if that is what has happened to me, I hate to think what teens today will be able to watch when they're my age.
I think violent video games would be even worse because you are doing the killing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 19:16:07 GMT 10
I'm not saying that movies don't. What I am saying is that you can't say on desensitizes, whist the other doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 19:19:13 GMT 10
Although, one of the most shocking scenes in the history of cinema, never showed any violence what so ever. It was all implied (psycho)
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Post by Salem on Jan 20, 2013 19:22:09 GMT 10
There are gullible people everywhere. We call them Coalition Voterer So watching a violent movie will not effect you, but playing violent video games will. Oh...Kay.... The above demonstrates some people are so eaten up with hate they will take even the most innocuous post and find a contrary argument just to be argumentative and obnoxious. |
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Post by jody on Jan 20, 2013 19:37:04 GMT 10
HG, yeah and back then it did shock people....watch it now and what do you get? a shrug of the shoulder and roll of the eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 20:01:58 GMT 10
HG, yeah and back then it did shock people....watch it now and what do you get? a shrug of the shoulder and roll of the eyes. The first time I ever saw Psycho, was after I saw Poltergeist and Raiders. I still found Psycho just as shocking. Implicit Violence can be just as shocking as explicit violence and, well lets just say that gratuitous violence doesn't shock at all. That just becomes over the top bullshyte. Which is why video games, in many ways, are less shocking than violent movies. You know that they are fantasies. If you really want to know how shocking implicit violence is compared to any thing explicit, have a listen to 'The Boiler' by seminal British Ska Band , The Specials, and Rhoda Daka's harrowing account of being raped. |
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Post by garfield on Jan 20, 2013 20:05:10 GMT 10
I think you watched a lot of stupid movies and thats why you're so stupid now.
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Post by jody on Jan 20, 2013 20:06:08 GMT 10
I've been sitting here trying to think of a movie that can be considered quite frightening, and I honestly can't think of one.
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Post by jody on Jan 20, 2013 20:07:00 GMT 10
There's one coming to the cinema called Mama....hoping it may have some atmosphere at least.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 20:13:58 GMT 10
I think you watched a lot of stupid movies and thats why you're so stupid now. Speaking of stupidity, has it ever occurred to you just why you constantly get singled out for ridicule ? Probably not, you're too stupid to work that one out. |
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Post by garfield on Jan 20, 2013 20:17:11 GMT 10
has it ever occurred to you just why you constantly get singled out for ridicule ? Well that would be because no one can rebut my arguments so they blow a gasket and start with the name calling instead. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 20:19:53 GMT 10
Thanks for proving my point, Dopey.
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Post by garfield on Jan 20, 2013 20:21:48 GMT 10
Thank you for admitting you can't win a debate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 20:29:43 GMT 10
I've been sitting here trying to think of a movie that can be considered quite frightening, and I honestly can't think of one. Go see Hitchcock, then go and Watch Psycho again. Once you understand just how Hitchcock constructed that scene, from direction to the cutting process, it becomes all the more scary. You also realise just what a brilliant Director he was. |
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Post by jody on Jan 20, 2013 20:31:30 GMT 10
I've seen psycho quite a few times. I know who it was based on etc.....I read up a lot on serial killers and Ed Gein is one of my "faves".  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 20:35:39 GMT 10
Lets just say that Janet Lee, wasn't exactly 'acting' her part in the shower scene.
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Post by jody on Jan 20, 2013 20:40:10 GMT 10
I actually prefer The Birds over Psycho.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 20:42:20 GMT 10
Hitchcocks Talent was in the Psychological.
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