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Post by Occam's Spork on Jan 28, 2022 12:48:38 GMT 10
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Post by caskur on Jan 28, 2022 17:25:07 GMT 10
We're having a heatwave so snow looks much worse. I hate snow.
Mandates should be illegal. However Australia is no different to Russia.
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Post by caskur on Jan 28, 2022 21:08:07 GMT 10
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jan 29, 2022 6:32:20 GMT 10
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jan 29, 2022 6:43:39 GMT 10
These stats are being reported by the very people who want you to get the shot. If the pharmaceutical companies knew the vaccine was safe, then why do they require 'no liability '? And why do they not need to release their data until 2075? ...Doesn't that seem odd to you? P.S.: A lot of those reported deaths are 'with' Covid; not 'from' Covid.
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Post by Stellar on Jan 29, 2022 13:01:40 GMT 10
It doesn't seem odd to me. Most people would in all probability have survived their ailments but with Covid on board, their chances were severely diminished.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jan 30, 2022 2:23:43 GMT 10
It doesn't seem odd to me. Most people would in all probability have survived their ailments but with Covid on board, their chances were severely diminished. The vaccine itself has diminishing effectiveness. Not to mention the fact that it is weakening your immune system's effectiveness in fighting off other viruses with every dose. The best way to combat Covid is to build a natural resistance to it. For thousands of years the human race has survived just fine without mRNA The Covid vaccine will eliminate Covid in the same way the flu vaccine eliminates the flu. In my opinion you have two choices: Adapt, or be forever dependent on the pharmaceutical industry. Both come with their own set of risks, but the latter is more profitable for the corporations. Which is why they are trying to vilify and bully us into taking it. Case in point: ...Have you ever seen such pressure to take a vaccine ever before in modern history? I'm not buying it. This isn't about concern for your health, it's about concern for their pocketbooks.
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Post by bender on Jan 30, 2022 8:22:30 GMT 10
Case in point: ...Have you ever seen such pressure to take a vaccine ever before in modern history? I'm not buying it. This isn't about concern for your health, it's about concern for their pocketbooks. Yes, Polio, Smallpox, TB, Measles. Tell me Spork, do you believe the worldwide mass Vaccination programs against Polio were worthwhile?
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Post by caskur on Jan 31, 2022 1:51:07 GMT 10
He has already said he is vaccinated against everything. He doesn't have confidence in the latest vaccine because he thinks its shit and doesn't work and he is quite right.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 1, 2022 1:59:40 GMT 10
Case in point: ...Have you ever seen such pressure to take a vaccine ever before in modern history? I'm not buying it. This isn't about concern for your health, it's about concern for their pocketbooks. Yes, Polio, Smallpox, TB, Measles. Tell me Spork, do you believe the worldwide mass Vaccination programs against Polio were worthwhile? You are comparing apples with oranges, Bender. And since you and Ponto have an affinity for constructing strawmen and not actually addressing what is being communicated, I will repeat: I am not antivaxx; I am anti-bullshit. The death rate in 2020, (and this is from the WHO 's own website.) Was 1%, and this was pre-vaccine. That means in every 1000 people only 10 people will die from Covid. 2021 comes around, they get their new vaccine, and suddenly the media scares the shit out of everyone telling them death from infection is near certainty. The vaccine did not live up to their expectations, and your odds are only marginally better(their words) by getting it. It shouldn't be that your vaccine only works if I have it too. Wake up Bender! The Matrix has you.
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Post by bender on Feb 1, 2022 6:00:24 GMT 10
You asked if such pressure to take a vaccine has ever been seen in our modern history and I immediately showed you a number of vaccines, sand there are quite a number more, whooping cough, diptheria, the Vaccine for HPV.
And your reaction is to claim that I'm in a fantasy world?
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Post by caskur on Feb 1, 2022 16:59:10 GMT 10
You asked if such pressure to take a vaccine has ever been seen in our modern history and I immediately showed you a number of vaccines, sand there are quite a number more, whooping cough, diptheria, the Vaccine for HPV. And your reaction is to claim that I'm in a fantasy world? Deaths by vaccine.. more people have died taking the covid vaccine in the last 2 years than all other vaccines combined... VAERS data and before you sound off... that is an official USA GOV, WEBSITE.
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Post by caskur on Feb 1, 2022 17:28:07 GMT 10
These stats are being reported by the very people who want you to get the shot. If the pharmaceutical companies knew the vaccine was safe, then why do they require 'no liability '? And why do they not need to release their data until 2075? ...Doesn't that seem odd to you? P.S.: A lot of those reported deaths are 'with' Covid; not 'from' Covid. very very very suspicious... they never developed an AIDS vaccine, why, I wonder. they are making us get 3 vaccines or we cannot go to bars, bottle shops, restaurants, cafes, gyms and a bunch of other places like theatre, sporting events and so on... we have to show proof via our mobile phones app or they won't let us in. I cannot workout how to get an gov ID yet... on working on it. a significant number of our population do not have mobile phones or cannot work them if they do.. this is just The Australia Card people voted against decades ago...it's away of having 'the mark of the beast' on us, is my opinion it won't catch crooks... now our crooks are running up to old people snatching gold chains off their necks.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 2, 2022 0:13:20 GMT 10
You asked if such pressure to take a vaccine has ever been seen in our modern history and I immediately showed you a number of vaccines, sand there are quite a number more, whooping cough, diptheria, the Vaccine for HPV. And your reaction is to claim that I'm in a fantasy world? Which of these other diseases did the government take an authoritarian response and require proof of vaccination for employment or benefits? I can recall a time in recent history where a class of people were segregated, and papers were required for travel...but I digress. The difference between those vaccines and the current ones, are that those were proven to be effective in eliminating and preventing infection. The pharmaceutical companies were also made to disclose their information to the public in the past, and had liability in the event that something went wrong . With this new vaccine, all I am hearing is accusations and excuses for why it isn't sufficient in and of itself. --Do you think that they need everyone to have it because it is just "so damn effective?!" Israel has a 100% vaccination rate, and yet their infection rate is still climbing. Figure that one out. "Here's a vaccine that is so damn effective that we need to bribe and bully you into taking it!" -No thanks. Of course they are going to tell everyone that the virus is more survivable with the vaccine! That is a statement that isn't quantifiable; and the alternative would be to admit the vaccine is a complete failure and a waste of everybody's resources. They are by no means, ever going to admit that. As I said, there is no comparison between this and the other vaccinations. Apples and oranges.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 2, 2022 0:16:55 GMT 10
We're having a heatwave so snow looks much worse. I hate snow. Mandates should be illegal. However Australia is no different to Russia. Germany and Austria are way worse with their restrictions. They are doing raids to hunt down the unvaccinated. Of course, the media isn't reporting that. They want to focus on banal things like how creepy senile ol' Joe Biden is the most popular President ever! (Well... a recent poll showed that 51% believed Biden was pre-dementia, that would also mean most of those surveyed voted Democrat. 😎)
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Post by caskur on Feb 2, 2022 6:20:50 GMT 10
You asked if such pressure to take a vaccine has ever been seen in our modern history and I immediately showed you a number of vaccines, sand there are quite a number more, whooping cough, diptheria, the Vaccine for HPV. And your reaction is to claim that I'm in a fantasy world? Which of these other diseases did the government take an authoritarian response and require proof of vaccination for employment or benefits? I can recall a time in recent history where a class of people were segregated, and papers were required for travel...but I digress. The difference between those vaccines and the current ones, are that those were proven to be effective in eliminating and preventing infection. The pharmaceutical companies were also made to disclose their information to the public in the past, and had liability in the event that something went wrong . With this new vaccine, all I am hearing is accusations and excuses for why it isn't sufficient in and of itself. --Do you think that they need everyone to have it because it is just "so damn effective?!" Israel has a 100% vaccination rate, and yet their infection rate is still climbing. Figure that one out. "Here's a vaccine that is so damn effective that we need to bribe and bully you into taking it!" -No thanks. Of course they are going to tell everyone that the virus is more survivable with the vaccine! That is a statement that isn't quantifiable; and the alternative would be to admit the vaccine is a complete failure and a waste of everybody's resources. They are by no means, ever going to admit that. As I said, there is no comparison between this and the other vaccinations. Apples and oranges. I am pretty sure back in the olden days, 70 and 80s Australians had to be vaccinate before they left Australia and the vaccines were TB and Smallpox. Someone may have to correct me it I am wrong.
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Post by Gort on Feb 2, 2022 10:44:58 GMT 10
Past the peak but a way to go yet. If you haven't had your third dose yet ... get it done ASAP.
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Post by freddies ghost on Feb 9, 2022 11:46:07 GMT 10
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 10, 2022 3:22:04 GMT 10
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Post by caskur on Feb 10, 2022 3:44:07 GMT 10
The woman complaining to your PM wasn't specific about anything. Your PM and our PM and Premiers were acting on health advise by epidemic specialists. They had to obey the doctors advice. it's was a terrible 2 years... it is now starting where I live.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 10, 2022 5:49:30 GMT 10
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 10, 2022 6:12:33 GMT 10
The woman complaining to your PM wasn't specific about anything. Your PM and our PM and Premiers were acting on health advise by epidemic specialists. They had to obey the doctors advice. it's was a terrible 2 years... it is now starting where I live. The FDA is controlled by the Pharmaceutical industry and is in charge of regulating that industry. They aren't going to tell you that there no need for a vaccination-- they are profiting off of it. There is no accountability. If you could control and bully the masses with the fear of a global pandemic, why wouldn't you? This was never concerning your health, it was about selling product you never needed.
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Post by Stellar on Feb 10, 2022 10:46:41 GMT 10
So in your opinion, the vast majority of virologists, epidemiologists and immunologists are all part of a huge conspiracy theory.
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Post by ponto on Feb 10, 2022 15:43:45 GMT 10
Occam's snort is just using this board to espouse his pinhead MAGA bullshit...and where is Jodes...?...time to fuck these two off from newstalkback...
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Post by caskur on Feb 10, 2022 19:07:06 GMT 10
The woman complaining to your PM wasn't specific about anything. Your PM and our PM and Premiers were acting on health advise by epidemic specialists. They had to obey the doctors advice. it's was a terrible 2 years... it is now starting where I live. The FDA is controlled by the Pharmaceutical industry and is in charge of regulating that industry. They aren't going to tell you that there no need for a vaccination-- they are profiting off of it. There is no accountability. If you could control and bully the masses with the fear of a global pandemic, why wouldn't you? This was never concerning your health, it was about selling product you never needed. I believe we need a vaccine if it stops emergency being flooded and the medical staff dying. They need to keep working for a safer one or it looks like they are killing people on purpose. oh well, these companies can't be sued for wrongful deaths meanwhile covid spreads like the angel of death.
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