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Post by matte on Dec 10, 2021 20:36:25 GMT 10
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Post by Stellar on Dec 10, 2021 20:37:17 GMT 10
Why is that wonderful??  |
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Post by matte on Dec 10, 2021 20:38:07 GMT 10
Why is that wonderful?? Because he is a traitor. |
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Post by Stellar on Dec 10, 2021 20:41:53 GMT 10
Chelsea Manning was the traitor! Assange was merely the publisher. Any news outlet would have done the same. That's what newspapers are for. To inform us of things the govts of the day would like to keep from us. We need to know these things.  |
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Post by Stellar on Dec 10, 2021 20:42:58 GMT 10
Or rather ... I should say Chelsea Manning was the whistleblower.
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Post by caskur on Dec 10, 2021 20:49:08 GMT 10
Or rather ... I should say Chelsea Manning was the whistleblower. And she was already punished and released. Yanks are ridiculous. The media will be happy though...lol, they can reroute their sleazy Epstein commentary or Harkle's silly rhetoric. |
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Post by Stellar on Dec 10, 2021 21:07:40 GMT 10
Yes, that's the thing. Chelsea Manning is now free ... but they want to execute Assange! Bloody poms to cave in and extradite him. |
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Post by Gort on Dec 10, 2021 22:00:52 GMT 10
Yes, but will he be allowed to skateboard in his underpants while awaiting trial?  Always reminds me of this:  |
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Post by matte on Dec 10, 2021 22:27:35 GMT 10
He betrayed the United States.
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Post by caskur on Dec 10, 2021 22:27:49 GMT 10
Yes, but will he be allowed to skateboard in his underpants while awaiting trial? Always reminds me of this: Short a answer, no. |
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Post by Gort on Dec 10, 2021 22:32:44 GMT 10
Kathy Lette and Geoffrey Robertson will be crying into their cornflakes.  |
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Post by Gort on Dec 11, 2021 13:08:12 GMT 10
Assange has been charged with espionage. Specifically: conspiring to hack government computers and of violating espionage law. US prosecutors and Western security officials regard Assange as an enemy of the state whose actions endangered the lives of agents whose names were in the material he is accused of leaking. US authorities say more than 100 people were put at risk by the disclosures, with some fleeing their home countries with their spouses and families to move to the United States or another safe country. Assange is facing up to 175 years in prison over the 17 espionage charges and one charge of computer misuse over the leaks. However, the US government said in its appeal that a sentence of between three and six years was more likely. www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-11/julian-assange-can-be-extradited-to-the-us-so-what-happens-now-/100692776He is just another mentally disturbed attention seeking darling of the Left. |
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Post by matte on Dec 11, 2021 14:50:09 GMT 10
He is a traitor to the "free bloc" nations.
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Post by pim on Dec 11, 2021 15:25:06 GMT 10
Waffly meaningless term that you’ve made up which exists nowhere and certainly not in any statute book that might guide court proceedings.
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Post by Stellar on Dec 11, 2021 19:09:32 GMT 10
Kathy Lette and Geoffrey Robertson will be crying into their cornflakes. But not together seeing as they were divorced 4 years ago. |
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Post by Stellar on Dec 11, 2021 19:18:44 GMT 10
Assange has been charged with espionage. Specifically: conspiring to hack government computers and of violating espionage law. US prosecutors and Western security officials regard Assange as an enemy of the state whose actions endangered the lives of agents whose names were in the material he is accused of leaking. US authorities say more than 100 people were put at risk by the disclosures, with some fleeing their home countries with their spouses and families to move to the United States or another safe country. Assange is facing up to 175 years in prison over the 17 espionage charges and one charge of computer misuse over the leaks. However, the US government said in its appeal that a sentence of between three and six years was more likely. www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-11/julian-assange-can-be-extradited-to-the-us-so-what-happens-now-/100692776He is just another mentally disturbed attention seeking darling of the Left. Chelsea Manning was convicted by court-martial in 2013 of violations of the Espionage Act and other offenses after disclosing to WikiLeaks nearly 750,000 classified or unclassified but sensitive, military and diplomatic documents. She was sentenced to 35 years but got out in 7. However Julian Assange didn't do any hacking of these documents. He just published them. I don't see where his conduct was worse. I'd be interested in what other news outlets would have done with that info given that the US was definitely far from blameless in their actions. |
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Post by caskur on Dec 11, 2021 19:29:58 GMT 10
He betrayed the United States. he exposed their crimes against humanity. |
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Post by Gort on Dec 11, 2021 21:13:43 GMT 10
Kathy Lette and Geoffrey Robertson will be crying into their cornflakes. But not together seeing as they were divorced 4 years ago. Really? Didn't know they had split up, but it is a wonder she got with him in the first place - he is such an insufferable bore!  |
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Post by Stellar on Dec 12, 2021 8:21:27 GMT 10
 He's 7 years younger than her. And she's writing a new book - HRT (husband replacement therapy). |
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Post by Stellar on Dec 12, 2021 8:35:47 GMT 10
And he's a guitarist and works in theatre. They met when he was practising in the park ....
Brian recalls he was deeply engrossed in his strumming. It was a warm day in London and he was in Regent’s Park, the nearest patch of green to his flat, practising for a performance. “I was playing quite virtuosic and demanding music at the time, and I think Kathy thought, ‘oh my God, this isn’t just the normal three chords here’. I was going a bit mad and it’s a wonder the guitar didn't explode....
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Post by matte on Dec 12, 2021 12:50:13 GMT 10
It doesn't mean justice should not be done. He still needs to stand trial: / He should try and up his vitamin D3. |
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Post by pim on Dec 12, 2021 16:11:03 GMT 10
He should stand trial? Strewth you’re not still on your ill-defined “treason-with-a-huge-fudge-factor” kick are you Mad Matt? Give us a break!
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Post by pim on Dec 12, 2021 16:32:59 GMT 10
PM under pressure to end Assange 'lunacy'Marty Silk and Tiffanie Turnbull 11 December 2021 www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7547367/pm-under-pressure-to-end-assange-lunacy/The federal government has "raised the situation" of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's confinement with the UK and US, but has stopped short of calling for the Australian to be released. The 50-year-old is wanted in the US over the publishing of thousands of secret US diplomatic and military files, some of which revealed war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan. Assange is also accused of trying to recruit hackers to provide WikiLeaks with classified US information, and if found guilty could face up to 175 years' imprisonment. In the UK the High Court ruled on Friday he could be extradited to face 17 charges, after a lower court ruled Assange shouldn't be sent to the US due to a real and "oppressive" risk of suicide in January. Senior judges ruled that risk was mitigated by assurances from US authorities that the father of two wouldn't be held in highly restrictive prison conditions. Assange's lawyers intend to challenge the court's ruling with another appeal, this time in the UK's Supreme Court. Federal Independent MP Andrew Wilkie is calling on Prime Minister Scott Morrison to "end this lunacy" and demand the US and UK allow Assange to be released. “Mr Assange should be looking forward to spending Christmas with his two young boys and his fiancee, but instead he's facing a 175-year jail sentence and the very real possibility of living out his final days behind bars," he said in a statement. "He is a hero, not a villain, and journalism is not a crime. Again the United Kingdom proves it's a lackey of the United States and that Australia is delighted to go along for the ride." The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said it respected the UK legal process and Australia was not a party to the case. DFAT said it was monitoring Assange's case, had offered him consular assistance and sought his consent to discuss his health situation with UK prison officials, but he hadn't responded. The department did not comment on Mr Wilkie's call for the government to demand Assange be released. "The Australian Government has raised the situation of Mr Assange with US and UK counterparts - including our expectations of due process, humane and fair treatment, access to proper medical and other care, and access to his legal team - and will continue to do so," a DFAT spokesperson told AAP. The UK court's decision has drawn ire from the United Nations' special rapporteur on torture, Nils Melzer, who sharply criticised the verdict. "This is a shortcoming for the British judiciary," Mr Melzer told the DPA news agency on Friday. “You can think what you want about Assange but he is not in a condition to be extradited," he said, referring to a "politically motivated verdict". Assange has been held in the UK"s Belmarsh Prison since 2019 after he was carried out of the Ecuadorian embassy by police and arrested for breaching bail. He initially entered the building in 2012 to avoid extradition to Sweden where police wanted to interview him about sexual assault allegations, which he has always denied and which were eventually dropped. Lifeline 13 11 14 beyondblue 1300 22 4636
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Post by pim on Dec 17, 2021 7:13:28 GMT 10
He’s not a US citizen and US can’t try Assange for treasonDecember 15, 2021 www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/he-s-not-a-us-citizen-and-us-can-t-try-assange-for-treason-20211214-p59h9z.htmlI have seen Julian Assange portrayed as a journalist, a whistleblower and as a traitor by the US government (“In a decent society, Assange is entitled to justice”, December 14). The fact is that neither he, nor any other Australian citizen, has ever had any formal requirement or commitment of loyalty or allegiance to the US government. It would therefore be an incredible stretch to describe his actions as treasonous. For the US to claim sovereignty over the globe and seek to apply their law to anyone anywhere in the world at will is sheer arrogance. The arrogance succeeds only because of the meek complicity of governments such as ours and that of Britain. Assange released material showing US forces committing atrocities during the Afghan war. This material made the US government look bad. They didn’t like it, expressed confected and selective moral outrage and hunted Assange down. Even if the extradition fails, the US government will have succeeded in warning off any other potential whistleblowers.
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Post by Gort on Dec 17, 2021 9:54:40 GMT 10
Well duh ... he hasn't been charged with treason!  Assange has been charged with espionage. Specifically: conspiring to hack government computers and of violating espionage law. US prosecutors and Western security officials regard Assange as an enemy of the state whose actions endangered the lives of agents whose names were in the material he is accused of leaking. US authorities say more than 100 people were put at risk by the disclosures, with some fleeing their home countries with their spouses and families to move to the United States or another safe country. Assange is facing up to 175 years in prison over the 17 espionage charges and one charge of computer misuse over the leaks. However, the US government said in its appeal that a sentence of between three and six years was more likely. www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-11/julian-assange-can-be-extradited-to-the-us-so-what-happens-now-/100692776He is just another mentally disturbed attention seeking darling of the Left. |
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