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Post by caskur on Jan 1, 2022 11:19:18 GMT 10
that is an excellent faked up photo... right down to the reflection on the desk. just goes to show how good fake photos can be. It must make policing that much more difficult.
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Post by Stellar on Jan 1, 2022 11:22:46 GMT 10
Are you trying to say the photo itself is faked? I believe it is genuine.
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Post by matte on Jan 1, 2022 12:12:56 GMT 10
It is genuine and Andrew should jump on a plane to New York and take that interview with the FBI.
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Post by pim on Jan 1, 2022 14:27:23 GMT 10
that is an excellent faked up photo... right down to the reflection on the desk. just goes to show how good fake photos can be. It must make policing that much more difficult. Ignore Mad Matt’s doubling down and his cognitive dissonance. It’s terminal with him I’m afraid. Toots is this pic the real deal?
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Post by Gort on Jan 1, 2022 16:40:35 GMT 10
Oh blimey! Pimbo doesn't geddit. Matt is not saying the photo was actually on the Queen's desk but that the photo of Randy Andy with a 17 year old Virginia Roberts (AKA Virginia Giuffre) is real. As Premier used to say: "You're not very bright are you?"
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Post by caskur on Jan 1, 2022 20:37:05 GMT 10
Are you trying to say the photo itself is faked? I believe it is genuine. no, I think the photo is genuine.
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Post by caskur on Jan 1, 2022 20:50:22 GMT 10
that is an excellent faked up photo... right down to the reflection on the desk. just goes to show how good fake photos can be. It must make policing that much more difficult. Ignore Mad Matt’s doubling down and his cognitive dissonance. It’s terminal with him I’m afraid. Toots is this pic the real deal? It could be. I'm not 100% sure. There is an anomaly in the reflection that happens to be the same reflection on both pictures. so both could be fake. Do you know?
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Post by caskur on Jan 1, 2022 20:59:58 GMT 10
It is genuine and Andrew should jump on a plane to New York and take that interview with the FBI. Because the legal age of consensual sex in NEW YORK where the Giuffre allegation took place is 17... Does the junkie hooker have any pictures of forced copulation with Prince or are we all going to relie on that sex traffickers word?
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Post by Gort on Jan 2, 2022 9:36:41 GMT 10
So far, so good ... although I expect Randy Andy to avoid any consequences ... except being cut out from Royal "duties". Legal blow for Prince Andrew’s attempt to block sex assault lawsuitBy Larry Neumeister January 2, 2022 — 9.39am New York: Prince Andrew’s effort to immediately block the progression of a lawsuit by a woman who says he sexually assaulted her when she was 17 – on the grounds that she no longer lives in the US – was rejected by a federal judge as oral arguments were set to proceed on Monday on the prince’s request to dismiss the lawsuit.Judge Lewis Kaplan, in a written order on Friday (US time), told the prince’s lawyers they must turn over documents on the schedule that has been set in the lawsuit brought in August by Virginia Giuffre. Giuffre says she was abused by the prince on multiple occasions in 2001 while she was being sexually abused by financier Jeffrey Epstein. The prince’s attorney, Andrew Brettler, has called the lawsuit “baseless”. Attempts by Prince Andrew’s team to halt the trial on jurisdictional grounds have been rejected.CREDIT:PA The order was filed three days before the scheduled public release Monday of a 2009 settlement agreement between Epstein and Giuffre. Lawyers for Andrew say that the agreement protects the prince from claims like those brought by Giuffre and will be sufficient grounds for the lawsuit’s dismissal. The prince’s lawyers had claimed that the evidence was so strong that Giuffre does not reside in the United States that it was pointless to exchange evidence until that question is resolved because it could result in the lawsuit’s dismissal. They argued that Giuffre has lived in Australia all but two of the past 19 years, has an Australian driver’s license and lives in a $1.9 million home in Perth, Western Australia, where she has been raising three children with her husband, who is Australian. In a statement, Giuffre attorney Sigrid McCawley called the request to halt the case “just another in a series of tired attempts by Prince Andrew to duck and dodge the legal merits of the case Virginia Giuffre has brought against him. All parties in litigation are subject to discovery and Prince Andrew is no exception.” Kaplan, in a one-page order, noted that the prince’s lawyers have requested that “extensive” materials be turned over by Giuffre by January 14, including documents related to where she has lived. And he said the prince’s attorneys have not yet formally raised the defence that the lawsuit cannot proceed on the grounds that Giuffre has been living in Australia rather than Colorado, where her lawyers say she is a resident. His order expressed no opinion on the merits of the prince’s claims that Giuffre should be disqualified from suing because she lives in Australia. Oral arguments via a video teleconference on the prince’s request to dismiss the case are scheduled for Monday morning. It earlier emerged that the prince has not named any witnesses to support his Pizza Express alibi, nor has he any evidence to support his claim about having a “peculiar medical condition” that prevents him from sweating, that he used to deny Giuffre’s claims that he had sweated all over her. In October, the prince’s lawyers attacked the lawsuit on multiple grounds, saying Giuffre had made false claims against Andrew because he “never sexually abused or assaulted” her. “Giuffre has initiated this baseless lawsuit against Prince Andrew to achieve another payday at his expense and at the expense of those closest to him. Epstein’s abuse of Giuffre does not justify her public campaign against Prince Andrew,” the written arguments said. Epstein killed himself in a Manhattan federal jail in August 2019 as he awaited trial on sex trafficking charges. His former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, 60, was convicted on Wednesday of charges including sex trafficking and conspiracy after a month-long trial. The Associated Press does not typically identify people who say they are victims of sexual assault unless they choose to come forward publicly, as Giuffre has. AP www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/legal-blow-for-prince-andrew-s-attempt-to-block-sex-assault-lawsuit-20220102-p59laz.html
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Post by Stellar on Jan 2, 2022 10:14:39 GMT 10
I hope this costs him a LOT of money! Would've been easier to pay her out.
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Post by matte on Jan 2, 2022 20:11:15 GMT 10
John Pilger isn't happy with the old hag!
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Post by caskur on Jan 2, 2022 21:09:49 GMT 10
Giuffre stayed willingly with Epstein for 4 years and was going to surrogate a baby for the sex traffickers Maxwell and Epstein...
Aww yeah, a real victim of sex abuse.
Where is Giuffres records of seeking psychiatric help for her victimhood of being sexually abused by Prince Andrew? Surely there is a track record.
As for Prince Andrews lawyers wanting to drop the case becuz Giuffre doesn't live in the USA is ridiculous... Giuffre the slag though already got a payout of 1.9 mil that covered Epstein and all his clients... The slag is trying to double dip.
The news papers are loving all this being shills for a druggie child trafficker.
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Post by matte on Jan 2, 2022 21:26:12 GMT 10
The U.S. courts have already ruled that she is entitled to sue him in their courts.
I believe tomorrow Prince Andrew will be finished, those papers are about to be unsealed, available to the entire world to see.
Will the Queen still defend her boy? If she does, then she can rot in hell.
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Post by caskur on Jan 3, 2022 0:08:50 GMT 10
The U.S. courts have already ruled that she is entitled to sue him in their courts. I believe tomorrow Prince Andrew will be finished, those papers are about to be unsealed, available to the entire world to see. Will the Queen still defend her boy? If she does, then she can rot in hell. ermmmm, when has the Queen defended Prince Andrew?
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Post by pim on Jan 3, 2022 0:25:09 GMT 10
Isn’t a Mum expected to love her son no matter what? Mad Matt if you start placing limits and conditions on parental love then you don’t support family values. I’ve always had doubts about you as a conservative. You’re a radical reactionary, an extremist.
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Post by caskur on Jan 3, 2022 7:29:23 GMT 10
He thinks the druggie call girl is a victim. She's already helped herself to 1.9 million but Perth is a tad pricy so she needs a top up and if she doesn't get one....by God, that bloody old queen better burn in hell.
If by now you haven't worked out the world is full of insanity, you're too late for the party.
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Post by pim on Jan 3, 2022 7:42:47 GMT 10
Toots you really want to go there? About insanity in the world? You, Toots?
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Post by caskur on Jan 3, 2022 7:49:11 GMT 10
Toots you really want to go there? About insanity in the world? You, Toots? I am not the one running around this group falsely accusing Prince Andrew of rape like others here are. So yes, I'll go there... Next...
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Post by caskur on Jan 3, 2022 8:15:25 GMT 10
www.businessinsider.com.au/alan-dershowitz-calls-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-virginia-giuffre-liar-denial-2020-7Alan Dershowitz calls Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre a ‘serial liar’ while once again denying he ever had sex with herHaven Orecchio-Egresitz Aug. 1, 2020, 7:58 AM Attorney and law professor Alan Dershowitz discusses allegations of sex with an underage girl levelled against him, during an interview at his home in Miami Beach January 5, 2015. REUTERS/Andrew InnerarityA slew of court documents related to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were unsealed in federal court Friday. They include testimony from Virginia Roberts Giuffre accusing former Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz of having sex with her while she was sex trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s direction. Dershowitz has adamantly denied the allegations over the years, and on Friday again tried to defend himself in a statement to Insider. “Virginia Giuffre is a serial liar who has deliberately made up stories about me and others in the hopes of cashing in on millions of dollars,” he said. Giuffre and Dershowitz are involved in a thicket of defamation lawsuits stemming from him previously calling her a liar over the allegations. Visit Insider’s homepage for more stories. Former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz is once again denying that he had sex with Virginia Giuffre, who for years has maintained that accused sex traffickers Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell directed her to sleep with him while she was 17 years old. Dershowitz’s denial follows the release of another batch of court documents from a 2015 defamation suit between Giuffre and Ghislaine Maxwell, unsealed Thursday night. Giuffre has publicly accused Epstein and Maxwell of sex-trafficking her starting in 2000. Maxwell has denied Giuffre’s claims, which sparked the lawsuit. She has claimed that she had sex with Dershowitz on multiple occasions. Dershowitz and Giuffre are also suing each other for defamation – a legal battle that was sparked in 2019 when Dershowitz denied the allegations and called Giuffre a liar. That lawsuit has spawned several counter-suits between the two and their respective lawyers. Both Giuffre and Dershowitz have fought to get the documents unsealed – but for different reasons. Giuffre has fought to expose what she says was a wide-ranging sex trafficking ring run by Epstein and Maxwell, which implicates a number of powerful people. Dershowitz has said the documents prove Giuffre is dishonest. “I am gratified that Judge Loretta Preska has ordered the unsealing of documents in the Maxwell case,” Dershowitz wrote in his statement. “I have been requesting the unsealing of all documents, because I have nothing to hide. I did absolutely nothing wrong, and the documents contain proof of my total innocence.” A representative for Giuffre says the new documents change nothing. “We have been to this rodeo before with Alan Dershowitz,” the representative said. “He has been recycling the same fantasies of his version of the truth for years.” I demanded release of all documents because they contain emails and manuscripts proving in Guiffre’s own words that she never met me. I knew they would repeat her false accusations against me, Al and Tipper Gore and others, which her own lawyers admit are “wrong”. — Alan Dershowitz (@alandersh) July 31, 2020 Dershowitz, who became a household name when he defended OJ Simpson in his murder trial, had been friends with Epstein in the late 1990s and early 200s. He was also part of Epstein’s legal team that brokered the lenient plea deal in 2008 that allowed the convicted sex offender to spend just 13 months in county jail while working from home for days. Epstein died by suicide last August in a federal jail while awaiting trial on charges of sex-trafficking. Giuffre and Dershowitz both claim the documents prove them rightMost of Giuffre’s allegations against powerful men, including Dershowitz, were known prior to the document dump on Thursday. Many of the details were unveiled in a 2,000-page document dump from the same case a year ago, which also led Dershowitz to reiterate his claim that Giuffre was dishonest. Giuffre has said she was 17 when Maxwell picked her up from now-President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago spa, where she worked at the time. She was hired as a masseuse for Epstein but has said she was groomed by Maxwell to have sex with him and others, including financier Glenn Dubin, model scout Jean Luc Brunel, and former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. Dubin, Brunel, and Richardson have also denied the allegations. Maxwell was arrested on July 2 on charges related to the procuring and sexual abuse of minors. Her attorneys had unsuccessfully fought to keep defamation documents sealed. Preska ordered them to be unsealed, in part, so that they could be used in the case between Giuffre and Dershowitz. Virginia Giuffre in 2019. Shannon Stapleton / Reuters
In his statement Friday, Dershowitz attempted to paint Giuffre as a liar out to get money from wealthy men He accused her of saying she was younger than she was when she met Maxwell and Epstein, about meeting Al and Tipper Gore on Epstein’s private island, and about President Bill Clinton being flown to the island by Maxwell piloting a helicopter. “She has roiled three continents with her accusations against politicians and other high profile individuals and yet the media has declined to conduct the kind of investigative reporting that it has rightfully done with regard to other accusers,” Dershowitz said. “I welcome the unsealing of more records and a thorough investigation of all the allegations, and I am confident they will prove what I already know for certainty: that Virginia Giuffre is a serial liar who has deliberately made up stories about me and others in the hopes of cashing in on millions of dollars.” This article has been updated.
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Post by caskur on Jan 3, 2022 8:17:31 GMT 10
LOL, the call girl druggie has got law suits against everyone... With any luck the girls she trafficked are still alive and will sue her too when she is all cashed up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- pagesix.com/2021/10/30/prince-andrew-claims-virginia-giuffre-was-trafficking-underage-girls/Prince Andrew claims sex abuse accuser Virginia Giuffre was trafficking underage girlsBy Jesse O’NeillOctober 30, 2021 ^^^ Worth a read.
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Post by matte on Jan 3, 2022 10:02:54 GMT 10
Isn’t a Mum expected to love her son no matter what? Mad Matt if you start placing limits and conditions on parental love then you don’t support family values. I’ve always had doubts about you as a conservative. You’re a radical reactionary, an extremist. She can love him like a mother. But to protect him from the law? As the head of the Church of England (whatever that is) she should advise him of the following bible verse: Matthew 18:6 - "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
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Post by caskur on Jan 3, 2022 10:52:51 GMT 10
The slag wasn't a "little one".... in the 4 years she worked with the child sex traffickers, Epstein and Maxwell, she lived in defacto relationships with 2 older guys.
Which part of, she was a call girl, don't you get Matt? She was paid upto $14,000 per trick usually around $4,000. She wouldn't get that now tho, she didn't age very well. She's a bloated gold digger.
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Post by Gort on Jan 3, 2022 10:55:16 GMT 10
So Cas, you don't think she might have had her life taken down the wrong path due to being manipulated as a minor by a couple of rich scumbags?
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Post by caskur on Jan 3, 2022 11:29:36 GMT 10
So Cas, you don't think she might have had her life taken down the wrong path due to being manipulated as a minor by a couple of rich scumbags? absolutely not... a 17 year old knows right from wrong. She knew exactly what she was doing... screwing men for GREAT amounts of money. She went to Thailand to pick up a girl for Epstein instead, she met a man (Giuffre) and sailed onto Australia and married him.... She makes my skin crawl. If Andrew did fuck the slag, he is a bloody idiot but the courts and lawyers make money out of all this... They aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts... Giuffre was the legal age of consent and there are no criminal charges to answer. Morally repugnant yes, criminal no.
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Post by Gort on Jan 3, 2022 11:32:16 GMT 10
The equivalent of a child in year 11 - manipulated by rich scumbags.
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