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Post by matte on Aug 4, 2021 22:21:09 GMT 10
Institutions ‘cling to belief’ in Bruce Pascoe’s Dark Emu ‘fairytale’ despite criticisms4 August 2021 SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA Sky News host Rowan Dean says institutions “cling to the belief” of Bruce Pascoe’s heavily criticised Dark Emu thesis because “accepting that fairytale” makes it a lot easier to say “European colonisation was a bad thing”. This comes amid the Law Society of NSW inviting Bruce Pascoe to speak to them next month about what it’s like being a First Nations man. “You can laugh at the bloke and either he’s a fool or he’s a fraud … but the bigger question is why institutions like the ABC or the Law Society, why do they cling to the belief when it’s been proven wrong,” Mr Dean said. “And the answer is very simple … If you accept that fairytale then it becomes a lot easier to say European colonisation was a bad thing because it disrupted this idyllic kind of noble savage beautiful lifestyle that was going on.” www.skynews.com.au/opinion/andrew-bolt/institutions-cling-to-belief-in-bruce-pascoes-dark-emu-fairytale-despite-criticisms/video/7df7d10d7db9e88169dfa129b24e0054
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Post by pim on Aug 4, 2021 23:58:07 GMT 10
More far right ranting. Have you actually read his book?
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Post by caskur on Aug 5, 2021 0:05:48 GMT 10
Our heroine..
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Post by ponto on Aug 5, 2021 12:00:52 GMT 10
Pascoe's book has over embellishments that has been recognised academically, because Aboriginal people used boomerang's so they developed flight is drawing a long bow, none the less as it is Aboriginal history and colonisation cannot be white washed with white settlement was beneficial to Aboriginal people, as what Bolt and his colleague saying, its akin to saying Jewish continuing settlements of Palestinian land is beneficial to Palestinians.
Australia has to write wrongs of the past with recognition there were harsh injustices enacted on the people, and that is happening.
As for transgenders...it does seem that its male chauvinism wanting to dominate the women's world....certainly don't see them as wanting to be the model housewife at home looking after the kids catering for hubby's needs, or taking on the low paid work that women often fill as in age care, they want to be models, entertainers and sports people celebrities.
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Post by caskur on Aug 5, 2021 18:48:07 GMT 10
Pascoe's book has over embellishments that has been recognised academically, because Aboriginal people used boomerang's so they developed flight is drawing a long bow, none the less as it is Aboriginal history and colonisation cannot be white washed with white settlement was beneficial to Aboriginal people, as what Bolt and his colleague saying, its akin to saying Jewish continuing settlements of Palestinian land is beneficial to Palestinians. Australia has to write wrongs of the past with recognition there were harsh injustices enacted on the people, and that is happening. As for transgenders...it does seem that its male chauvinism wanting to dominate the women's world....certainly don't see them as wanting to be the model housewife at home looking after the kids catering for hubby's needs, or taking on the low paid work that women often fill as in age care, they want to be models, entertainers and sports people celebrities. It's a little hard to right wrongs when the people who were wronged are now dead and the wrongdoers are dead now too, don't ya think?. On your stupid reasonings, us European Australians, should go and make the Romans pay for conquering the British Isles a few hundred years back. They got their fucking sorrys in spades, they've been compensated x 100 and they were granted citizenship so it is about time they fucking acted like citizens instead of separatists. END OF. You're still stuck somewhere in the 80s on causes already fought, won and implemented. It's not something that should infinitely continue and this is why leftist repel people who have a clue in their head.
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Post by ponto on Aug 5, 2021 20:47:22 GMT 10
Allow me to explain this topic in a language that you can understand....well like it is about recent history ya dumbarse fucknut hillbilly bogan redneck....up until the 60's they still came under the Flora and Fauna act, they were not even classified as human beings.
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Post by caskur on Aug 5, 2021 21:06:30 GMT 10
Allow me to explain this topic in a language that you can understand....well like it is about recent history ya dumbarse fucknut hillbilly bogan redneck....up until the 60's they still came under the Flora and Fauna act, they were not even classified as human beings. I was sitting in classes with aborigines in the late 1960s... I am so BLOODY SICK of this total bullshit about hard done by abos. The whole of the last century was very tough on mankind having two world wars to contend with and other serious threats... NO ONE was left unscarred... just FUCK OFF with the pity me Abo bullshit!~
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Post by pim on Aug 5, 2021 23:47:47 GMT 10
It’s no use Ponto. She won’t even “own” her racism. I agree though Toots’ racism is of a particularly virulent and vicious kind. Difference between her and other hard racists like the KKK or the Nazis or the white supremacist goons of apartheid era South Africa is that they never denied their racism. Quite the contrary. They embraced their racism. They wore their white supremacist chauvinism on their sleeves. They flaunted it openly and passed laws to entrench it. Toots on the other hand wants to have it both ways. She wants to be a racist while at the same time she wants to deny that she’s a racist. Pretty piss weak.
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Post by ponto on Aug 6, 2021 2:01:56 GMT 10
She has only empathy for Trump...
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Post by caskur on Aug 6, 2021 15:41:51 GMT 10
It’s no use Ponto. She won’t even “own” her racism. I agree though Toots’ racism is of a particularly virulent and vicious kind. Difference between her and other hard racists like the KKK or the Nazis or the white supremacist goons of apartheid era South Africa is that they never denied their racism. Quite the contrary. They embraced their racism. They wore their white supremacist chauvinism on their sleeves. They flaunted it openly and passed laws to entrench it. Toots on the other hand wants to have it both ways. She wants to be a racist while at the same time she wants to deny that she’s a racist. Pretty piss weak. I think racism is you pigeonholing aborigines into perpetual beggars depending on handouts forever and a day.
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Post by caskur on Aug 6, 2021 15:42:46 GMT 10
She has only empathy for Trump... Do you actually know what empathy means? Look it up.
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Post by pim on Aug 6, 2021 15:56:03 GMT 10
I will not be lectured to on racism and bigotry by this white supremacist I will not! (with thanks to Julia!) What is it about Australian racists that they won't own their racism! They're shocked and outraged when they're called out on it. You're as racist as this guy and he sure as hell "owns" his white supremacist race hatred ...
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Post by caskur on Aug 6, 2021 18:42:06 GMT 10
I will not be lectured to on racism and bigotry by this white supremacist I will not! "Tough tities," - Ma Anand Sheela Just keep hitting up your separatist agenda and I'll keep reminding you who the real racists around here are.
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Post by caskur on Aug 6, 2021 21:51:49 GMT 10
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Post by matte on Aug 8, 2021 18:25:23 GMT 10
These female prisoners are going to be attacked and raped by these men:
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Post by ponto on Aug 9, 2021 2:52:18 GMT 10
Skynews propagnada arm shows the perverse logic of the alt RW and the prejudices of fucknutism..
For them transgender people are all serial rapsit, which is just a distraction from the real issue in a neoliberal world like the US, born out of poverty neoliberalism produces a society with a high incaeration rate so that prisoners are used for cheap almost slave labour, a situation where prisoners are propdcuing near 25% of manufatured goods....rather than address the blatant poverty and inequality.
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Post by caskur on Aug 9, 2021 4:07:02 GMT 10
Skynews propagnada arm shows the perverse logic of the alt RW and the prejudices of fucknutism.. For them transgender people are all serial rapsit, which is just a distraction from the real issue in a neoliberal world like the US, born out of poverty neoliberalism produces a society with a high incaeration rate so that prisoners are used for cheap almost slave labour, a situation where prisoners are propdcuing near 25% of manufatured goods....rather than address the blatant poverty and inequality. Women had already been sxually assaulted in prisons by men claiming to be women.... I wonder why our gutless shitty journalists haven't covered these stories yet,.
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Post by ponto on Aug 9, 2021 7:30:53 GMT 10
Well they have made studies and in Britian there has been 7 cases of transblokes involved with rape out of 124 cases of rape.
Easily solved by placing trans with wedding tackle are placed in male prisons in isolation.
Women in prisons are in the west are small % of the population, as against blokes who are 96% of people in prisons, what is a concerning stat is that most women in jail atre for non violent crimes and 2/3rds have mental healt issues suffered from mostly sexual truama.
As a society we are meant to be progresing forward where poverty and the ever increasing incaceration rates should be falling....they are not....no journo's cover that story about the effects oin society with neoliberalism, but transgender rapes in jail....whoa watch out amjor news.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 10, 2021 23:18:35 GMT 10
Question: Why do leftists love drag queens, but hate black face?
...Isn't that a bit hypocritical?
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Post by pim on Aug 11, 2021 11:29:14 GMT 10
“Woke” left? Bullshit. Get a load of the loony toons fruitcake freakshow extreme right. And be afraid. Be very afraid ...
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Post by caskur on Aug 11, 2021 13:11:29 GMT 10
Institutions ‘cling to belief’ in Bruce Pascoe’s Dark Emu ‘fairytale’ despite criticisms4 August 2021 SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA Sky News host Rowan Dean says institutions “cling to the belief” of Bruce Pascoe’s heavily criticised Dark Emu thesis because “accepting that fairytale” makes it a lot easier to say “European colonisation was a bad thing”. This comes amid the Law Society of NSW inviting Bruce Pascoe to speak to them next month about what it’s like being a First Nations man. “You can laugh at the bloke and either he’s a fool or he’s a fraud … but the bigger question is why institutions like the ABC or the Law Society, why do they cling to the belief when it’s been proven wrong,” Mr Dean said. “And the answer is very simple … If you accept that fairytale then it becomes a lot easier to say European colonisation was a bad thing because it disrupted this idyllic kind of noble savage beautiful lifestyle that was going on.” www.skynews.com.au/opinion/andrew-bolt/institutions-cling-to-belief-in-bruce-pascoes-dark-emu-fairytale-despite-criticisms/video/7df7d10d7db9e88169dfa129b24e0054 Everyone knows aborigines didn't build permanent dwellings and lived under humpies. You could find that in wiki once upon a time. However, someone has change wikipedia to say, "aborigines lived in humpies, 'until permanent dwellings were made'. An absolute total lie now included in Wikipedia. There is now a group of left running around rewriting history. And notice how 'aboriginals' change to aborigines then changed to indigenous and twits in this group, plus the media call them 'first nations people.' Or maybe you are too young to remember it went from aboriginals to aborigines. They are constantly changing their separatists' name. Always trying to keep Australians divided. Once abos found out the actual meaning of aboriginal (which means anyone born in a country) they switched it to aborigines....Basically me, to 5 generations back, are aboriginal. And they were NOT a 'nation' before settlement. They were very small tribes with different languages, thinly scattered over a huge continent. Calling them, "first nation's people," is so pretentious, condescending, ingenuous and separatist.
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Post by Stellar on Aug 11, 2021 14:22:44 GMT 10
Yes, I agree with all that. They were never a "nation" ... they didn't even have any idea what a nation was. They didn't understand land ownership. They believed they belonged to the land. Now all of a sudden they say the land was theirs! All of it. Totally theirs. But it never was - they never put down roots and built anything permanent. They never grew crops. They never farmed. All these things prove "ownership" and are proof of settlement. That's why the British had to have a treaty with the maori. Because it was obvious they owned the land, they grew crops and they built dwellings and they were permanent. And the maori were prepared to fight to keep their land.
The Abos just copy other indigenous from around the world. They haven't got the brains to figure out anything for themselves. They and their stone age "culture" are just an embarrassment. And I wonder if they are still are carrying out some of their quaint rituals like subincision? Their lives were wretched and there wouldn't be an Abo around who would willingly go back to Stone Age living! So they can stop lying about how that was the only time when they were truly happy and lived wonderfully fulfilled lives. That is crap and unlike the lefturd loonies, I'm not falling for it!
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Post by caskur on Aug 11, 2021 14:44:22 GMT 10
I'm on my PC now. I wrote so many typos in that last post but now I can see them. It's a wonder you understood it.
I always fantasized about being in a time machine. There are things I'd love to know for instance, how was Tasmania populated by aborigines? Who were they and how many made the journey. What sort of vessel was used to cross the sea?
There are a lot of stories we will never know. Tasmania is cold in winter and why I mention that is because I find people who lived in very cold climates had to make clothes and better quality humpies like Maori. Also people with man-eating animals, bears, big cats, would needed forts to sleep in at night.
Don't you think it would be cool to view us from an omnipotent height through the last 6 thousand years.
The planet had more tree cover for starters.
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Post by pim on Aug 11, 2021 14:45:27 GMT 10
The term is First Nations - plural. You might have a point about “nations” since they weren’t organised in the hierarchical Western notions of “Nation”. If anything they probably practised the purest form of bottom up communism. Certainly Karl Marx thought so and so did Friedrich Engels who had interesting things to say about the social structures of nomadic Stone Age peoples in his very seminal Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State. By contrast the tribal structures of the NZ Maori and the First Nations of North America were hierarchical in ways that Europeans could relate to. We whitefellas like to ask “Who’s in charge here!” so we know who to deal with. The “take me to your leader” model falls apart when you encounter people who live in a state of bottom up communism with Dreamtime spirituality. They aren’t “nations” in the European sense of “nation”. Nevertheless that doesn’t mean that they were incapable of organising on a mass scale. We had black wars in this country. Whitefellas aren’t familiar with names like Pemulwuy, Windradyne or Yagan but they organised and led a fierce resistance to whitefella encroachment on their lands. I refer to them as First Nations but I’ll take First Peoples as long as it’s in the plural. The Wiradjuri and the Kamilaroi would definitely see themselves as nations, and so they are as the two largest First Nations of kooris in NSW.
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Post by caskur on Aug 11, 2021 15:15:26 GMT 10
The term is First Nations - plural. You might have a point about “nations” since they weren’t organised in the hierarchical Western notions of “Nation”. If anything they probably practised the purest form of bottom up communism. Certainly Karl Marx thought so and so did Friedrich Engels who had interesting things to say about the social structures of nomadic Stone Age peoples in his very seminal Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State. By contrast the tribal structures of the NZ Maori and the First Nations of North America were hierarchical in ways that Europeans could relate to. We whitefellas like to ask “Who’s in charge here!” so we know who to deal with. The “take me to your leader” model falls apart when you encounter people who live in a state of bottom up communism with Dreamtime spirituality. They aren’t “nations” in the European sense of “nation”. Nevertheless that doesn’t mean that they were incapable of organising on a mass scale. We had black wars in this country. Whitefellas aren’t familiar with names like Pemulwuy, Windradyne or Yagan but they organised and led a fierce resistance to whitefella encroachment on their lands. I refer to them as First Nations but I’ll take First Peoples as long as it’s in the plural. The Wiradjuri and the Kamilaroi would definitely see themselves as nations, and so they are as the two largest First Nations of kooris in NSW. Ahhh here you go explaining away your lefty separatisms. They also claim they were NOT nomads. They're aborigines and changing their name to something new doesn't make it true. Either you accept you are Australian and behave accordingly or you are a separatist. If you are a separatist, WHY? So you can claim money that doesn't belong to you? That is what it's about... MONEY. I know about Yagan. The WA aborigines murdered a British soldier Private Nesbit and attacked another British soldier who got away on horseback. The murdered British soldier was giving the natives some flour. Flour that wasn't even grown in Australia yet. The aborigines kept trying to steal the soldiers meagre supplies. When Stirling got back from England they dealt with the murdering thieving aborigines.. Don't pick fights with kind soldiers. They were better armed adversaries. The aborigines picked a fight murdering a kind soldier... and lost. Tough. Private Nesbit's body was continually speared and his head was so bashed in, he was unrecognizable.
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