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Post by matte on Mar 1, 2021 18:39:09 GMT 10
Donald Trump has proven today that he has wide support in the United States and some say if he were to run again, he would win the GOP candidacy and go on to win a second term.
The big reason for that is not particularly Joe Biden, who at the end of the day is a middle of the road Democrat, but instead because of United States Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, better known as AOC. Independents, level headed Americans, are quite sick of people like her. She is a threat to the ordinary way of life in the United States.
Most people do not agree with her or her followers identity politics and woke leftism, it is reviled by ordinary people. She is looked at as offensive to their ordinary values, the same values that made the United States the great nation that it is and could continue to be if people like her would stand aside.
Why is it that she is given so much airtime when really, she was elected by such a small number of people in the United States from one of the most woke-left districts?
So, Donald Trump will be elected as President again and it'll be thanks to the extremism of people like AOC and her followers.
Commentator Mark Steyn said "we live in an age now where a wrong joke can get you cancelled," and that "the woke-left have moved to the Ayatollah Khomeini position where there are no jokes in wokeism".
You can watch the full interview between Chris Kenny and Mark Steyn in the video below.
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Post by bender on Mar 1, 2021 20:53:24 GMT 10
The woke left are the biggest threat to society?
But didn't you say last week that the Chinese were the biggest threat to society?
And the week before weren't you saying that abortion was the biggest threat to society?
And whatever happened to Al Queda Terrorists and by extension all muslims, what the hell, all people with brown skin being the number 1 threat to society (and Melbourne outdoor dining).
Come on, Brown Skinned people get so little in this world, can't they be the number one threat to society for longer then a couple of years.
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Post by matte on Mar 1, 2021 20:56:38 GMT 10
The woke-left and the Chinese Communist Party are practically the same thing.
The Labor Party isn't exactly tough against the CCP, in fact, they would love for Scott Morrison to capitulate to the CCP position.
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Post by pim on Mar 1, 2021 22:31:56 GMT 10
Matt is “Pro-Life Pro-God Pro-Gun Pro-Trump”: it’d be laughable if the results didn’t become appallingly evident in Washington on January 6.
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Post by pim on Mar 1, 2021 23:13:54 GMT 10
Trump Leaves Poignant Letter For Biden, Reminding Him That His Ratings On The Apprentice Were Very, Very HighContinuing the tradition started by Ronald Regan, Donald Trump has left a letter for his successor, using the opportunity to remind the incoming president that The Apprentice received some of the highest ratings we’ve seen in a very long time. Trump’s letter, which he left for Biden in the Oval Office, read: ”Dear Joe,
When I walked into this office just now, I was reminded again of the amazing ratings my television show received between 2004 and 2015. They were very, very high. It was incredible. A lot of smart people watched it.
You will be President when you read this note. But it is unlikely that you will have your own successful TV show on a major network. I did for many years. It is still incredibly popular.
It is the highest honour for an American citizen to receive six, sometimes seven million viewers per week. It is something I can be very proud of.
There will be trying times. But when things get tough, just remember that in one particular episode – the season finale in 2004 I think it was – there were over 20 million viewers. That is a very big number.
Yours,
Donald J Trumpwww.theshovel.com.au/2021/01/21/trump-leaves-letter-for-biden-ratings-the-apprentice/
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Post by ponto on Mar 2, 2021 3:58:30 GMT 10
The end is sigh....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 6:29:23 GMT 10
'The Woke Left' as opposed to the un-woke Right?
Def: WOKE (OED) - "alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice". And you sneer at it derisively? Very Christian like.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (I refuse to abbreviate out of respect) is an elected member of the House, unlike Trump who is not.
That he seemingly still has widespread support is alarming to anyone with a sense of decency.
As an aside, I love how the gold statue of him at the CPAC was made in Mexico...Oh the irony!
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Post by pim on Mar 31, 2021 5:50:16 GMT 10
‘Babylon Berlin,’ Babylon America?How watching a TV show about Weimar Germany can help us interpret our own era.By Ross Douthat, Opinion Columnist March 30, 2021 www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/opinion/babylon-berlin-weimar-america.htmlGerman guards controlling a crowd in Berlin in March 1920“I’ve said this before. And I’m telling you, I worry that I’m right. The right is going to pick a fascist within 10 to 20 years.” That’s a quote from Jesse Kelly, a pugnacious right-wing talking head, on Tucker Carlson’s show last week. His prediction, as you might expect, is very different from the left-wing version of the same prophecy. The left worries that the right is going fascist because conservatism is so racist, anti-democratic and depraved. But Kelly thinks the right might “pick a fascist” as an understandable response to left-wing radicalism and the corruption of the liberal establishment. It’s the prediction as threat: It’s not that we want the G.O.P. to get fashy, but if it happens, it’ll be the progressives’ fault. This sounds like a very Weimar sort of sentiment. So I’m going to use it as an excuse to recommend that everyone inclined to draw parallels between 21st-century America and Weimar Germany should catch up with the best dramatic show on television: the German-language, late-1920s-set serial “Babylon Berlin.” The show is a detective story in the foreground, with the political drama looming behind. It starts before the Great Depression (the most recent season ends with the crash of 1929) and follows Gereon Rath, a police inspector new to the German capital, and his eventual collaborator Charlotte Ritter, a flapper who aspires to become a detective. Their police work takes them through the Berlin demimonde, thick with gangsters, journalists, prostitutes and avant-garde filmmakers; inevitably this world is entangled with a political scene inhabited by cross-pressured Social Democrats, right-wing nationalists allied with the military brass and Communists. The Nazis don’t appear until the end of the first season, and then only as the cat’s paw for the main bad guy, a ruthlessly ambitious nationalist. Nobody imagines them as a threat to actually take power — well, nobody except for the Nazis themselves “Babylon Berlin” has many virtues, including the will-they-or-won’t-they frisson conjured by its lead actors. But its major success is in evoking a feeling that might be described as almost-familiarity in its portrait of Germany before the fall. That is, if you are inclined to see contemporary America, under Donald Trump or after him, as a nation entering its own Weimar period, there will be scenes from the Berlin tapestry that prompt a shock of recognition. This includes the aspects of Weimar that inspire nostalgia on the left, the Babylon Brooklyn mix of socialist radicalism and sexual liberation. It includes the bully-boy factions in the streets, whose menace antifa and the Proud Boys imitate in our own era. It includes the way that extremes can radicalize one another as the center weakens, the agony of moderate figures trying to decide whether their official political opponents or their more extreme ideological allies are the bigger threat, and the mix of cynicism and naïveté with which the wrong choice is often made. Above all it includes the depiction of Berlin itself, the show’s real main character, a self-contained world of deracination and atomization, sexual experimentation and depravity, utopian fantasy and reactionary zeal, old and new bigotries, media frenzies and political radicalization. What is the city, if not the late-1920s version of the internet? But then alongside these familiarities there is the stronger shock of difference. The scale of poverty and degradation on display, even before the Great Depression hits, is a reminder that the world in which the Nazis rose was extraordinarily poorer than our own, with a fundamental fragility even for the middle class that neither the Great Recession nor the coronavirus have yet delivered to Americans. The violent legacy of World War I, its brutalization of an entire generation, is palpable in both the violence in Berlin’s streets and the literal shell shock afflicting multiple male characters: No recent American trauma can compare. Equally unfamiliar is the scope of viable-seeming political possibilities for the characters to embrace. In the course of the show we meet Stalinists and Trotskyists and White Russians, nationalists and fascists and would-be restorers of the Kaiser, as well as the fractious defenders of the republic. Almost all of them, crucially, have real-world correlatives for their ambitions — still-extant monarchies, the Soviet Union, Mussolini’s Italy. If the tragedy of Weimar is that it went through a doorway that opened into hell, the drama of Weimar is that so many doors were open, so many different political futures seemed entirely possible — in a way that makes our own era’s radicalisms feel more fantastic, ungrounded or made for cable TV. Then the final thing that’s striking about Weimar’s world compared to ours is the sweeping institutional and cultural strength of the nationalist right. Indeed if anything the show underplays this power: It portrays a right-wing German military eager for a coup and conservative industrialists eager to support it, but the potency of right-wing ideas in the intelligentsia and the German university hasn’t really been depicted; the lone student character so far is an idealistic Communist. The overall vibe on the show, though, makes some kind of rightward shift in 1930s Germany seem all but inevitable. (Which only makes the role the non-Nazi right played in elevating Hitler seem more shameful.) But that is not at all the vibe of 2020s America, where conservatism feels much more decayed and self-marginalizing, with little of the right-wing infrastructure and ambition that the Nazis channeled, co-opted and corrupted. Yes, conservatives have Fox News and talk radio, the Republican Party has its business-class support and Trump had Michael Flynn and the MyPillow C.E.O. and Jerry Falwell Jr. But our generals are mostly allergic to politics and the military’s most recent political intervention was a counterstrike against a critique from Tucker Carlson. Our corporations dislike socialism but their main strategy for keeping it at bay is to go all in on cultural-left politics. Our churches are fractured, scandal-ridden and declining. Our aristocracy — sorry, meritocracy — is divided between hand-wringing liberals and militant progressives. And our conservative party isn’t eager to tear our constitution up and start anew: Instead it’s hyper-constitutionalist, because its current share of power depends on some of the Constitution’s most antique instruments. In this landscape I actually find myself in sympathy, in an odd sort of way, with liberals who might respond to Jesse Kelly’s invocation of some future fascist G.O.P. by saying actually, Donald Trump is already what American fascism looks like. Not because I think “fascist” is the proper term for Trumpism, but because in his presidency we already saw what happens when a weakened and marginalized right gets radicalized and claims the White House without a popular majority. We got cruelty and demagogy and corruption — but also a pretty standard Republican agenda. We got flailing weakness in the face of opposition from almost every other power center. We got dramatic failures of governance, not the consolidation of power, when a historic crisis came along. And when violence was instigated on this right-wing president’s behalf, it took a frightening but also futile form — one that very vaguely resembled the Reichstag Fire, except that the Jan. 6 riot ended with the organs of the security state turned against the extreme right, not mobilized on its behalf. None of this is an experience I’d care to repeat. But it’s also not an experience that makes Kelly’s the right might go fascist warnings feel exactly like a warning from a German nationalist circa 1928. Under Weimar’s conditions, the right’s radicalization threatened, and eventually delivered, the outright destruction of German liberalism and the German left. (And then much, much more destruction beyond that.) But under contemporary American conditions, further right-wing radicalization seem more likely to be a suicide weapon — a way for a weakened movement to instigate a period of crisis, maybe, but one that would probably only hasten its marginalization and defeat.
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Post by ponto on Mar 31, 2021 7:55:56 GMT 10
Hitler came to power because he was voted in....he didn't have to use force.
A fascist leader could easily happen again with RW influencers broadcasting their propaganda of the left are responsible for Liberal Democracy failing and the west in decline.
Poverty is increasing in the west and shrinking in communist countries, because under communism all the people are taken along,......solution is to have the all ideology without the totalitarianism and that is social democracy with mixed economy.
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Post by matte on Jun 5, 2021 12:26:52 GMT 10
I was watching taxpayer television yesterday and saw this exchange between a woke-activist (who is likely only in a PhD program due to the university wanting to meet diversity targets) and Greg Sheridan of The Australian.
Talk about making an assumption, how embarrassing for this so called lawyer and fantastic to see Greg Sheridan put her back in her place.
The entire program was a train wreck with this woke activist on it. Julia Baird was constantly having to bring the woman back to the topic that was being discussed. She says she is a law graduate and now a PhD student. Not a lawyer I would hire.
While watching the program, I had a mix of emotions, so a little bit confusing. Initially it was disgust, but then it was humour as what she was saying was quite comical. But now it is back to disgust as our society is truly at risk from these woke-left activists. They are given too much of a platform.
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Post by Gort on Jun 5, 2021 12:37:30 GMT 10
LOL ... That's funny. When she found out his wife was Indian she seemed desperate to then try to turn it into an anti First Nations debate! WTF? BTW, Sheridan was quite correct that despite pouring billions into education here, we are still going backwards. There is something fundamentally wrong with our education system.
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Post by matte on Jun 5, 2021 12:43:27 GMT 10
LOL ... That's funny. When she found out his wife was Indian she seemed desperate to then try to turn it into an anti First Nations debate! WTF? BTW, Sheridan was quite correct that despite pouring billions into education here, we are still going backwards. There is something fundamentally wrong with our education system. When he made clear his boys were not Caucasian, her rude response back to him was: "ARE THEY BLACK?"
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Post by Gort on Jun 5, 2021 12:49:33 GMT 10
Yeah, the most disadvantaged (but you wouldn't understand that because you haven't experienced it) ... so speaks a law graduate PhD student?
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Post by matte on Jun 5, 2021 13:59:07 GMT 10
Yeah, the most disadvantaged (but you wouldn't understand that because you haven't experienced it) ... so speaks a law graduate PhD student? I wish they would quit complaining about life and instead embrace it. Yes, bad things happened in the past. Yes, modern Australia is not what aboriginal society was. It never will be. Just like medieval Europe is no longer the lifestyle lived in Europe in 2021. I am unsure what these aboriginies want? They want to go back to the tribalism? Or is it that they want to continue complaining, playing the victim card so that the welfare keeps rolling in? It must be so bad to wake up everyday hating the world. But the only person who can change that is the one who hates.
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Post by Gort on Jun 5, 2021 14:03:50 GMT 10
I must admit, I'm getting tired of: "On country" "Community" "'Chulcha'" "Elders past, present and emerging" "Give us ..."
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Post by ponto on Jun 5, 2021 14:09:15 GMT 10
Yes we can see how you guy's are brain dead activsit....no need to tell us.
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Post by caskur on Jun 5, 2021 14:09:37 GMT 10
I am unsure what these aboriginies want? They want to go back to the tribalism? Or is it that they want to continue complaining, playing the victim card so that the welfare keeps rolling in? Yep, they want to play the victim card.
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Post by caskur on Jun 5, 2021 14:10:53 GMT 10
I must admit, I'm getting tired of: "On country" "Community" "'Chulcha'" "Elders past, present and emerging" "Give us ..." ugh... positively cringe worthy.
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Post by matte on Jun 5, 2021 14:23:52 GMT 10
Why is it hard to wake up and just accept how things are and work on improving your own life?
There are people who arrived in Australia after WW2 who literally came with nothing and they were treated appallingly. I know my grandparents were looked down as "wogs". My dad was bashed at school for being a wog. But they have not claimed the victim card. They moved on from it. They love Australia, even if they were treated like shit when they first arrived here.
There is nothing stopping these aboriginal kids from going to school, listening, getting good grades etc. What happened in 1788 has nothing to do with 2021, get over it.
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Post by caskur on Jun 5, 2021 15:14:16 GMT 10
Hitler came to power because he was voted in....he didn't have to use force. A fascist leader could easily happen again with RW influencers broadcasting their propaganda of the left are responsible for Liberal Democracy failing and the west in decline. Poverty is increasing in the west and shrinking in communist countries, because under communism all the people are taken along,......solution is to have the all ideology without the totalitarianism and that is social democracy with mixed economy. errmmm, Hitler was a socialist. His party was a socialist party.
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Post by caskur on Jun 5, 2021 15:25:58 GMT 10
Why is it hard to wake up and just accept how things are and work on improving your own life? There are people who arrived in Australia after WW2 who literally came with nothing and they were treated appallingly. I know my grandparents were looked down as "wogs". My dad was bashed at school for being a wog. But they have not claimed the victim card. They moved on from it. They love Australia, even if they were treated like shit when they first arrived here. There is nothing stopping these aboriginal kids from going to school, listening, getting good grades etc. What happened in 1788 has nothing to do with 2021, get over it. What stops a lot of aborigine kids progrssing in some tribes is bad parenting. They don't feed their kids properly and they drink far too much coke cola... And funnily enough Mexican babies are weened on coke cola too. Cigarettes and alcohol (and meth too) are the parents number one priority... nothing is left over out of dole payments for good nutritious food. When those problems are seriously addressed improvements should follow. However since when have real issues actually been addressed?
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Post by caskur on Jun 5, 2021 15:43:36 GMT 10
'The Woke Left' as opposed to the un-woke Right? Def: WOKE (OED) - "alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice". And you sneer at it derisively? Very Christian like. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (I refuse to abbreviate out of respect) is an elected member of the House, unlike Trump who is not. That he seemingly still has widespread support is alarming to anyone with a sense of decency. As an aside, I love how the gold statue of him at the CPAC was made in Mexico...Oh the irony! American whites especially are fed up being accused of the over played racism card hurled continually in their direction and they aren't going to take it anymore. As one Tori Scotchman/Scottsman said the other day, "We're nice people, until we're not." Wokism, is driving a wedge between people. If that is their intention, they are the true intolerant ones then, wouldn't you say?
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Post by pim on Jun 5, 2021 17:30:22 GMT 10
Hitler came to power because he was voted in....he didn't have to use force. A fascist leader could easily happen again with RW influencers broadcasting their propaganda of the left are responsible for Liberal Democracy failing and the west in decline. Poverty is increasing in the west and shrinking in communist countries, because under communism all the people are taken along,......solution is to have the all ideology without the totalitarianism and that is social democracy with mixed economy. errmmm, Hitler was a socialist. His party was a socialist party. This is a boring thread. I’m only intervening on your historical distortion about Hitler being a “socialist”. To be fair to you, you’re not alone in your ignorance. I’ve seen Americans in particular trumpet (or should that read TRUMPet) the “Hitler was a socialist” furphy. In the same way that Matt calling himself a “Christian” and grandstanding about his vindictive Sky-God-Who-Smiteth doesn’t ipso facto make Matt a Christian (read Matthew 7:21), by the same token just because the Hitler outfit called itself the “National Socialist German Workers Party” didn’t mean he was any sort of socialist. In fact the very name “national socialist” is a grotesque oxymoron. Socialism is by definition international since the working class is international. The socialist hymn is the Internationale. Socialism has the class struggle as its driving force and socialist parties seek to lead the working class to victory in the class struggle. I’m not trying to be evangelical here. Doubtless you’re appalled at the very idea of class struggle and vanguard parties. OK fair enough and I agree that the Stalinist model of socialism is the god that failed. But you, Toots, raised the issue of Hitler and socialism so I’m just running with it. Hitlerite Nazism and Mussolini fascism, by contrast, deny the class struggle and see themselves as the parties of racial purity. To that end they glorify the Nation and hark back to an idealised mythical glorious “past”. For Mussolini it was Ancient Rome and for Hitler it was the ancient Germanic tribes depicted in the Wagner operas. You get a whiff of this in the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings - the books, not the movies. Tolkien drew heavily from the legends of the Nibelungen and the dwarfs (Tolkien spelt it as “dwarves” - remember I posted about “poetic licence”? He reckoned he had one!) who delved in deep caves and forged the Rings of Power. Wagner’s operas are called the Ring Cycle. Hitler was a big fan.
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Post by matte on Jun 5, 2021 18:02:01 GMT 10
Pim, as a former teacher, I would have thought you would agree with Greg Sheridan's opinion on education and teachers in Australia?
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Post by caskur on Jun 5, 2021 18:13:53 GMT 10
ermmm, I studied German history at North Lake Senior Campus in 1993 and got an A for my troubles. I studied the period 1850 until Hitler marched into Poland 1939. I also got the highest mark in test in the class...46/50. I should have got a 48 out 50. I considered one of the questions wrongly expressed...
Anyway stay delusional, I care not.
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