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Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 27, 2012 1:08:33 GMT 10
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Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 28, 2012 2:56:30 GMT 10
its interesting but because Boyce was THE expert I go by what she said. Ptolemy was once considered the expert on Astronomy. If we had your attitude, we would never have left the dark ages. |
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Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 28, 2012 11:49:55 GMT 10
See? dismissive.
Didn't even read it, did you?
If so, what points did you disagree with and why.
Don't give me this argumentum ad verecundiam bull crap.
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Post by slartibartfast on Dec 29, 2012 7:33:33 GMT 10
its interesting but because Boyce was THE expert I go by what she said. Ptolemy was once considered the expert on Astronomy. If we had your attitude, we would never have left the dark ages. Are you sure, YOU have left the dark ages? After all, you believe that a man written book with 1000s of errors in it is the be all and end all of creation, life and the universe. |
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Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 30, 2012 8:30:56 GMT 10
Ptolemy was once considered the expert on Astronomy. If we had your attitude, we would never have left the dark ages. Are you sure, YOU have left the dark ages? After all, you believe that a man written book with 1000s of errors in it is the be all and end all of creation, life and the universe. In case you are forgetting, ATHEISM is also a Bronze age belief system. So in standards of age, that would make Christians more evolved than you. |
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Post by slartibartfast on Dec 30, 2012 8:39:16 GMT 10
Ha ha ha.
Atheism is not a system, it is the conclusion you come to by using a rational thought process. But don't worry, you may come down from the trees like the rest of us. We're just miles ahead, so you have some catching up to do.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 30, 2012 8:55:42 GMT 10
If that's true then that would make theism the default position, and you'd have to prove that God doesn't exist.
Either we evolved from or evolving to. You can't see to make up your mind on that.
---Which is it?
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Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 30, 2012 15:17:37 GMT 10
Happens all the time in the Medical field.
Why would God demonstrate his power when mundane methods are sufficient?
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Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 30, 2012 15:18:41 GMT 10
It will be gone in a hundred or so years - 200 years - because we know its all a pack of lies. Voltaire said the same thing...200 yrs ago. |
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jan 2, 2013 0:12:54 GMT 10
I prefer to go by Cyrus, himself and his artifact: The Cyrus Cylinder.
Which clearly demonstrates his belief in polytheism.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jan 2, 2013 0:26:23 GMT 10
and its now almost gone it will soon be gone when all the news of the child sexual abuse comes out. Its only got a stronghold in the USA and all but extinct elsewhere. Overstated. And I challenge you to offer a study that demonstrates otherwise. I say the opposite is true. Atheism has been in decline since the fall of the Berlin Wall. That's why there is such a desperate recruiting drive by the atheist camp, on the internet. Atheism failed in Bastille, it failed in Russia, it continues failing in China. Atheism continues to lose ground, and is gaining in very little increments in the West. Atheism only accounts for 2.3 % of the world's population. (11.9% consider themselves nonreligious, but that doesn't make them atheists) |
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jan 3, 2013 9:19:36 GMT 10
Overstated. And I challenge you to offer a study that demonstrates otherwise. I say the opposite is true. Atheism has been in decline since the fall of the Berlin Wall. That's why there is such a desperate recruiting drive by the atheist camp, on the internet. Atheism failed in Bastille, it failed in Russia, it continues failing in China. Atheism continues to lose ground, and is gaining in very little increments in the West. Atheism only accounts for 2.3 % of the world's population. (11.9% consider themselves nonreligious, but that doesn't make them atheists) About 25% of the people now are on the right track.  Despite falling numbers Christianity remains the largest religion in England and Wales in 2011. Muslims are the next biggest religious group and have grown in the last decade. Meanwhile the proportion of the population who reported they have no religion has now reached a quarter of the population.
In the 2011 Census, Christianity was the largest religion, with 33.2 million people (59.3 per cent of the population). The second largest religious group were Muslims with 2.7 million people (4.8 per cent of the population).
14.1 million people, around a quarter of the population in England and Wales, reported they have no religion in 2011.
The religion question was the only voluntary question on the 2011 census and 7.2 per cent of people did not answer the question.
Between 2001 and 2011 there has been a decrease in people who identify as Christian (from 71.7 per cent to 59.3 per cent) and an increase in those reporting no religion (from 14.8 per cent to 25.1 per cent). There were increases in the other main religious group categories, with the number of Muslims increasing the most (from 3.0 per cent to 4.8 per cent).
In 2011, London was the most diverse region with the highest proportion of people identifying themselves as Muslim, Bhuddist, Hindu and Jewish. The North East and North West had the highest proportion of Christians and Wales had the highest proportion of people reporting no religion.
www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/census/2011-census/key-statistics-for-local-authorities-in-england-and-wales/rpt-religion.htmlThat's a UK census. And a poor representation of the world overall. But let's keep this atheism vs. theism, since that's the issue being discussed here. |
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