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Windows 10
Jul 27, 2019 20:15:48 GMT 10
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Post by pim on Jul 27, 2019 20:15:48 GMT 10
Whaddaya think? The best thing since sliced bread or an abomination?
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Post by KTJ on Jul 28, 2019 14:19:02 GMT 10
I look back with nostalgia at the days when Windows 95 was the best thing since sliced bread.
It was a simple operating system and bugger all ever went wrong with it.
Then came Windows 98 and the downhill spiral began with each successive operating system from Microsoft, with each one needing more and more support.
I've still got a PC in my shed which runs Windows 95. It goes too and over the years I've occasionally dug it out and started it up. However, most websites today don't work to well with the browser versions which are associated with Windows 95. Everything has moved on. However, Flight Simulator 98 runs really well on it still. And I can also run Crimson Skies on it. Unfortunately, that game won't run on modern versions of Windows as the drivers used are no longer compatible with it. Which is why I occasionally dig out that old computer when I want to play at being an aerial pirate in an imaginary former United States which has broken apart in the 1930s into fractional groups of states which are at war with each other.
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Post by Stellar on Feb 22, 2020 13:13:23 GMT 10
An abomination.
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Post by Stellar on Jul 10, 2020 13:59:08 GMT 10
Does anyone know how to disable Microsoft Edge? I know you can't get rid of it because it is an integral part of Windows 10. This is the worst browser ever devised by Microsoft. I don't know why I enabled it in the first place. It stuffs up all your usernames and passwords and keeps trying to insert them in the wrong places. It's constantly there annoying the hell out of you and you'd have to ask just why Microsoft keeps doing this because every time they bring in a new operating system it is ALWAYS worse than the previous ones!!
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Post by pim on Jul 10, 2020 15:10:49 GMT 10
I avoid it like the plague. I share your hatred of Windows 10 Stellar. I bought a new laptop PC last year and it came with Windows 10. I struggled with it and wondered "Is it me? Or is it the worst software ever dreamt up in the nightmares of the geeks who devise these things?" In the end I paid a little man to bypass Windows 10 and he installed Windows 7. Much better! I know I could have done it by myself (coulda, woulda, shoulda again!) but the guy didn't charge much and he solved a problem.
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Windows 10
Jul 10, 2020 15:13:43 GMT 10
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Post by pim on Jul 10, 2020 15:13:43 GMT 10
I haven't given you advice on how to disable Microsoft Edge because I don't trust my own advice where computers are concerned. You could ask KTJ but you'd have to ask nicely
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Post by Stellar on Jul 10, 2020 15:41:15 GMT 10
Lol. I won't be asking! I'll figure it out myself eventually or I'll just make Chrome my default browser. Or maybe just Google. I use them all - but not the abominable Bing! Honestly, they're all there just waiting their chance. And that's why I loathe Edge because it tries to insinuate itself as the default and at the moment it's getting it's way. And the only way it got to do that is that I enabled it the other day only just to try it out. Bad move!! Because once that happens, it's a hell of a job to reverse it. I know several people who are using Windows 7. Interestingly my BIL who is now working from home for the RTA, said they use Windows 7! Which of course he likes the best. I always thought 8.1 was a pain when I first got it but I'm happy to say, it worked out quite well and I really liked it after I found my way around it. I could do everything I wanted and the main thing - I was always in control. That is NOT always the case with Win 10.
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Post by KTJ on Jul 10, 2020 20:24:42 GMT 10
I haven't given you advice on how to disable Microsoft Edge because I don't trust my own advice where computers are concerned. You could ask KTJ but you'd have to ask nicely You don't need to disable Microsoft Edge.
Just leave it there, but make another browser your default browser.
I've got six different browsers on my computers, including Internet Explorer, which although it is largely obsolete now, it is still better than other browsers for some occasional tasks.
I also still keep Slimbrowser on my computers and updated, because a lot of security features various websites use to stop you stealing their photographs don't work with Slimbrowser, which is a very simple, dumbed-down basic browser. There are a couple of security concerns that come with it, but I only use it if I wish to bust through something. And it's also the best browser to use to bust through paywalls.
I do use Edge on a regular basis, but I have heavily customised it to suit the way I wish to use it.
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Post by fat on Jul 11, 2020 3:27:31 GMT 10
I dread the day when my computer dies and I have to get a Win 10 device. I know I will have to face the music someday - the paint is worn off many of my keys now on this old Toshiba (Bought 2nd hand too) but it still keeps on. I go back to the days of punched paper tape and Fortran cards and even they were far more intuitive than my lovely wife's windows 10 machine. The computer has ceased to be a useful tool - We are simply here to serve the computer's whims and buy the products the targeted advertising brings us.
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Post by KTJ on Jul 11, 2020 8:00:32 GMT 10
I hear a lot of people complaining about Windows 10, but like all previous Windows operating systems, you can customise it to suit how you like to do things.
I never accept the default position with computer operating systems, but reconfigure everything so it functions like I want it to function.
It is the same with MS Edge. While it initially appears to be user-unfriendly, get into the settings and change everything to how you want it to function.
And not just with Edge … I customise all of the browsers installed on my computers so I am in charge of how they operate.
KiwiRail recently updated all of their computer systems to Windows 10. I spent thirty minutes and completely reconfigured my own desktop in their system so it would function how I want it to function.
And a lot of my workmates have been asking, “How do you get it to work like that?”
Most people are too scared to play with settings and are terrified they will stuff it up.
However, there is always a “default” option in the settings, so if you bugger it up, simply go back to default and start again.
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Post by Stellar on Jul 11, 2020 9:07:04 GMT 10
However Microsoft has discontinued all technical support, software updates, security updates and any other fixes for Windows 7 earlier this year so unfortunately you will have to upgrade to Win 10. Microsoft have stated this will be the last Windows operating system. They'll just keep updating it in future. But the problem is - Windows 10 almost operates like malware. And yet Microsoft seemingly gets away with this crap all the time. Everybody who hates Windows 10 - and there are multi millions of them - should take up their complaints with Microsoft. It's not user friendly - it's user hostile!! Remember the old joke 'If Microsoft made a car... we'd have to stop every few miles, remove the engine and replace it - and for some reason we'd accept that??!!! The main problem with Win 10 is that THEY want to take over and do everything - they don't want you to be in control of your own computer. If only more people complained about Win 10 they might bring in an improved Windows 11. However that isn't the plan. Surprisingly there were so many complaints about Windows 8 and 8.1 that they had to discard it. When Win 8 first came out, my son was saying only the geeks could possibly like this and I agreed. But after a while I was really happy with it but of course they are not supporting it now hence having to get Win 10. And as I bought a new laptop at the Black Friday sales, it came with Win 10 so I'm stuck with it.
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Post by pim on Jul 11, 2020 9:56:11 GMT 10
I take your point about Microsoft no longer supporting Windows 7. I’m very good at procrastinating. It works fine so far and if I get a couple of years out of Windows 7 before I start facing issues then I won’t complain. We’ve also got a desktop PC from my partner’s pre-retirement business which she wound up on retirement and the desktop was one of the things she kept. Anyway it runs on Windows 7 as well. One day we’ll have to face the Windows 10 monster but today is not that day. The WEA run Windows 10 training courses and I guess I’ll sign up for one. I like your idea of badgering Microsoft with complaints about Windows 10
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Post by KTJ on Jul 11, 2020 11:14:07 GMT 10
The main problem with Win 10 is that THEY want to take over and do everything - they don't want you to be in control of your own computer. See my last post.
Get deep into settings and change everything so YOU are in control.
Don't worry about buggering it up, just make sure you work out how to return everything to the default settings if you do stuff it up, then you can start again.
Windows 10 isn't in control of my computer, I am … because I set it up so I have total control.
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Post by Stellar on Jul 11, 2020 13:13:22 GMT 10
Yeah well I'm not a techie - not by any stretch of the imagination. I've changed my browser to Google Chrome - it says that is now my default browser. However .... Microsoft Edge is STILL there. It's now on my taskbar. It's still doing stuff. It's still driving me around the twist every time I log into St George Banking and starts inserting the wrong passwords into my log in details. It keeps popping up everywhere wanting me to do this, do that. It keeps asking me to manage my passwords!!! It's taken over my favourites and changed the format as well as adding crap into my favourites that I don't want and didn't add myself. And even though my default browser is supposedly Google Chrome - it doesn't open automatically. No, I still have to do that myself! I will have to go and have a lie down and think about this for a while.
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Post by Stellar on Jul 11, 2020 13:16:32 GMT 10
I take your point about Microsoft no longer supporting Windows 7. I’m very good at procrastinating. It works fine so far and if I get a couple of years out of Windows 7 before I start facing issues then I won’t complain. We’ve also got a desktop PC from my partner’s pre-retirement business which she wound up on retirement and the desktop was one of the things she kept. Anyway it runs on Windows 7 as well. One day we’ll have to face the Windows 10 monster but today is not that day. The WEA run Windows 10 training courses and I guess I’ll sign up for one. I like your idea of badgering Microsoft with complaints about Windows 10 Not a good idea!! Without support and updates your computer is now vulnerable to security risks, viruses, hackers, malware, etc etc. My advice is to update before this happens!! Otherwise, you may well go to log into your laptop tomorrow and you cannot do it. Because it won't recognise your password. That's when you will have a big problem.
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Post by KTJ on Jul 11, 2020 16:29:59 GMT 10
If you don't want to see Microsoft Edge on your taskbar, right-click on the icon, then left-click on Unpin from taskbar and it is gone.
It will still be installed on your computer (I'd be very wary of uninstalling it altogether as it is embedded as part of the Windows operating sofware), but you won't see it anymore.
As I posted, take charge of your computer instead of allowing it to take charge of you.
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Post by Gort on Aug 5, 2020 11:55:54 GMT 10
The lock-screen wallpaper images that Windows 10 pops up and gives you the option to "like" or not sometimes throws up a good one. My latest one to show up is of the Rosette Nebula ...
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Post by Gort on Aug 26, 2020 18:54:54 GMT 10
It's a miracle! Installed the "optional" Windows updates today: August 20, 2020—KB4566116 (OS Builds 18362.1049 and 18363.1049) Preview August 20, 2020-KB4570723 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Version 1903, Windows Server 1903 RTM, Windows 10, version 1909 and Windows Server, version 1909 AND ... Things are running way more efficiently on my Laptop after installing them. Usually, updates do nothing to help or seem to slow things down. What's going on at Microsoft? Have they got someone there who knows what they are doing now?
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Post by Gort on Dec 26, 2020 22:10:12 GMT 10
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