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Post by matt on Dec 25, 2012 0:37:00 GMT 10
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Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 27, 2012 8:10:14 GMT 10
Jesus never existed and there is no such thing as god and people who believe this rubbish are mentally ill. Yep, the guy with PTSD, say it's THOSE guys-> ...who are mentally ill.
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Post by slartibartfast on Dec 27, 2012 8:15:56 GMT 10
Well, maybe he should rephrase it with "those who believe that there is some mythical creature watching everything we do and responsible for everything that happens need to get out into the real world".
How does that sound?
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Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 27, 2012 8:34:32 GMT 10
I would agree. Anyone who would believe that mythical creatures could do anything, would have some real issues.
But why the sudden subject change? I thought we were talking about God.
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Post by slartibartfast on Dec 27, 2012 9:20:44 GMT 10
I would agree. Anyone who would believe that mythical creatures could do anything, would have some real issues. But why the sudden subject change? I thought we were talking about God. God is nothing but a myth.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 28, 2012 3:07:09 GMT 10
Atheists demand evidence for every proposition. (...except for when THEY are making them.)
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Post by slartibartfast on Dec 28, 2012 7:00:15 GMT 10
No, we know there is no God because there is no logical and actual proof that one exists. If there was, we'd believe. But there isn't any, no matter how much huffing and puffing Veritas does. None of it is proof of the existence of any of the thousands of Gods easily fooled people believe in.
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Post by fat on Dec 28, 2012 9:40:59 GMT 10
Evidence?? Proof??
If there was, we'd believe. - slartibartfast
There is and I do.
Jesus knew the nature of those who would not see.
“He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
He also knew the nature of those who needed to see.
"So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.""
"A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!""
"Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.""
I am very like Thomas and I take his word for it that all was genuine - I also say with him "Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!""
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