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Post by Gort on Aug 26, 2021 21:56:15 GMT 10
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Post by ponto on Aug 26, 2021 23:08:23 GMT 10
LNP Post Turtles.
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Post by pim on Aug 26, 2021 23:15:46 GMT 10
Leadership ...
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Post by Gort on Aug 26, 2021 23:19:42 GMT 10
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Post by pim on Aug 27, 2021 0:01:55 GMT 10
Leadership ...
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 0:04:21 GMT 10
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 0:05:03 GMT 10
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 0:05:20 GMT 10
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 0:05:38 GMT 10
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 0:05:58 GMT 10
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 0:06:37 GMT 10
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 0:07:12 GMT 10
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 0:07:47 GMT 10
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 0:10:17 GMT 10
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 0:16:07 GMT 10
The Albotross
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 0:18:13 GMT 10
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Post by ponto on Aug 27, 2021 7:46:48 GMT 10
Condoning ScoMo's corruption...hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
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Post by pim on Aug 27, 2021 8:46:02 GMT 10
No fewer than eleven “Display Posts”. This guy really knows how to spam the bejesus out of a thread. If he really thinks that Albo is such a loser then why does he feel the need to follow me around on two boards, this one and Fat’s board, spamming the shit out of both boards with his “attack Albo” c&p’s? If it really is the case that Albo Labor is a loser’s party - and nobody is saying they’re a shoo-in, my argument is that they’re competitive which is not the same thing - then they could be dismissed as irrelevant. For example I regard the Greens as electorally irrelevant and I tend to disregard them. They do have an influence, but at the margins. I don’t obsess about them. Trickles on the other hand obsesses about Labor with all the fervour of the convert to the Dark Side. It’s as if he has to justify his support for a government led by a coal-hugging Prime Miniature who runs a protection racket for misogynists and rapists, specialises in corruption and secrecy, regards public accountability as tantamount to sedition, denies that he is responsible for anything, regards “leadership” with suspicion, won’t listen to fire chiefs who tried to warn him about Black Summer (“I don’t hold a hose, mate!”), made a clusterfuck of vaccine acquisition and supply thus making us all unsafe in a pandemic, refuses to shoulder his constitutional responsibility for quarantine in a global pandemic thus rendering our borders unsafe, and betrays people who have helped our troops in overseas war zones by leaving them in the lurch for enemy death squads to deal with, by providing cover for this mob and doing a Barnaby: “Look! Over there! Labor! Labor! Labor!” !
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Post by ponto on Aug 27, 2021 9:47:00 GMT 10
Trying hard to influence before the election...indeed he's trying too hard for if Labor was to win there would be federal ICAC,..making the LNP shit scared of losing.
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 10:10:13 GMT 10
No fewer than eleven “Display Posts”. This guy really knows how to spam the bejesus out of a thread. If he really thinks that Albo is such a loser then why does he feel the need to follow me around on two boards, this one and Fat’s board, spamming the shit out of both boards with his “attack Albo” c&p’s? Just to piss you off! 😁
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Post by pim on Aug 27, 2021 10:20:35 GMT 10
The flea farts, the world is indifferent.
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Post by Gort on Aug 27, 2021 11:41:55 GMT 10
What with Stellar; Matte and Caskur winding you up and Albo Labor in the doldrums ... life's good. I recall you writing last time that you would rather see Labor lose the election with its strong policies having fought the "good fight" on negative gearing and tax breaks for the higher income cohort ... I take it that your previous statement is now inoperative? à la Richard Nixon? BTW, I have been magically transported to a safe Labor seat without even having to change address ... so my vote doesn't count at the next election. Perhaps I will just draw a picture on the ballot paper this time.
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Post by ponto on Aug 28, 2021 6:31:27 GMT 10
Changes to electoral boundaries works in favour of Labor...so there's a plus...How good is that..!
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Post by Gort on Aug 28, 2021 12:42:59 GMT 10
Well done Ponts! You have discovered the apostrophe. Seems from Antony Green's analysis that La Trobe (where I used to be) remains pretty much unchanged as marginal Liberal and Bruce (where I am now) remains fairly safe Labor. Situation normal.
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Post by Gort on Aug 28, 2021 18:55:22 GMT 10
Albanese gets the short end of stick from BillPETER VAN ONSELEN 12:00AM AUGUST 28, 2021 Anthony Albanese has cleverly avoided Sydney since parliament rose for the winter recess, allowing him to campaign around much of the country. This week, despite all the failures with the Covid-19 vaccine rollout and associated pandemic blunders, the opposition managed to make a meal of its own political and public policy strategy when attacking the Morrison government. Anthony Albanese was forced into a backdown. His attempt to divide and conquer was re-routed by a ghost of Labor leaders past.The Opposition Leader had hoped to side with breakaway premiers by throwing mud at the Doherty Institute’s targets for lifting restrictions. He’d been working up to such a stance for weeks. The intent wasn’t to undermine the reputation of the institute. Throwing doubt on the modelling – indeed, claiming that the advice from the institute was changing, with material implications for how and when we open up – was all about making political life that little bit harder for Scott Morrison, feeding into the problems the Prime Minister has had controlling the agenda recently. Then former Labor leader Bill Shorten entered the fray, siding with Morrison and the plan originally agreed to at national cabinet. The news landed with a thud on Wednesday, with those close to Albanese privately accusing Shorten of deliberately playing the role of wrecker. Shorten supporters weren’t going to let that criticism go unanswered, reminding anyone who would listen that Albanese wasn’t exactly Shorten’s most loyal lieutenant during the six years the latter led the party.With some of the premiers having attempted to crab-walk away from national cabinet’s staged targets for opening back up – yes, Mark McGowan, we are looking at you – Albanese hoped to be the beneficiary of such parochialism by egging on the contrarianism. But once Shorten belled the cat, doing so would have divided the federal opposition more than it would the relationship between Morrison and the premiers. Albanese was forced to retreat, all the while claiming he wasn’t retreating. Of course the federal opposition supports the reopening plan agreed to at national cabinet.Albanese had hoped to be able to continue to box Morrison into a corner on what happens next in dealing with Covid, but instead he was outflanked. Yes by Morrison (armed with focus group research on community attitudes showing a shift is under way), but also by Shorten (who still has a leadership baton in his backpack, as Kevin Rudd used to say).Make no mistake, Shorten is coming for Albanese. He may not be able to seize the leadership this side of the next election or after. But he is happy to use his authority as a former leader to stir trouble when he believes he’ll be on the right side of history eventually. This was one of those moments.
Either way, Shorten forced Albanese explicitly to back the national plan, and thus back the Prime Minister. Maybe we really are all in this together.
Shorten did so despite Albanese starting the parliamentary week casting doubt on the modelling and the consequences of opening up later this year.A week is a long time in politics after all. Of course, there is a long way to go until election day, the timing of which is at the Prime Minister’s discretion. By the time election day does roll around, any Australian who wants to be vaccinated will be. Those who aren’t won’t be able to blame the government. There will have been ample vaccinations available for long enough, such that few can reasonably complain that opening the economy up isn’t fair.That will be the climate in which the next election campaign will be fought. Because of the furore inside Labor this week, including the backdown by Albanese, Morrison will point out Albanese wanted to keep fully vaccinated Australians wrapped in cotton wool, long after the botched vaccination rollout had been fixed.But that is a lesser of evils for Albanese compared with sticking to his guns arguing against opening things up, only to be left stranded when community sentiment shifts. Assuming that does happen – as both Morrison and Shorten are convinced it will – Albanese really should thank Shorten for the valuable service he performed this week. Messy, yes. Awkward, no doubt. Humiliating, maybe. But necessary to save Albanese from himself? Absolutely. Most Australians do not live on taxpayer-funded salaries, guaranteed whether we are in lockdown or not, with a generous super scheme they know will get them by no matter what. They are nervous about their economic future, the mental health of their children; indeed, their own mental health. The health risks remain real but, once they are vaccinated, people aim to be hopeful. Hence Australians are rapidly shifting their thinking, wanting restrictions lifted so they can get on with their lives in a world of Covid. Albanese has cleverly avoided Sydney since parliament rose for the winter recess, allowing him to campaign around much of the country. He therefore hasn’t experienced the Sydney lockdown. It has left a blind spot.
While people are angry and frustrated with the failures of a slow lockdown in Sydney and a botched vaccine rollout nationally, the only thing that would make these failures even worse would be if once fully vaccinated we still weren’t let out of our cages. That was Albanese’s emerging position before Shorten intervened.On another topic, the debacle that has been our withdrawal from Afghanistan continues to worsen. We now know many of the locals who helped us while Australian troops were deployed will not secure asylum on our shores. Some will eke out an existence under Taliban rule, others will be killed. Morrison likes to erode the uniqueness of the welcome to country for Indigenous Australians by including a thanks to those who have served in our armed forces. I could tolerate the departure from custom if such platitudes were supported by something substantial. For a long time our military personnel had been warning the government it needed to act with haste to secure safe passage for Afghans who supported us. They were ignored. As Morrison has said, we knew that once US troops left, the Afghan army would capitulate to the Taliban soon enough. Why then were we too late? There are no excuses. Whatever your view on the war in Afghanistan, the manner in which we have left has been handled badly. Peter van Onselen is a professor of politics and public policy at the University of Western Australia and Griffith University. www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/albanese-gets-the-short-end-of-stick-from-bill/news-story/2b9b2808390822fd9273496d467a368a
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