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Post by matt on Dec 22, 2012 23:48:18 GMT 10
I get sick of Christians who believe the Old Testament does not apply in the New Testament world. They believe upon the death and resurrection of Jesus that the law no longer exists.
It is a false notion and people who do not accept the divinity of the Laws of Moses will find themselves headed straight to hell.
When Jesus spoke, he talked about the ceremonial / ritualistic laws as being worthless. At no stage did he say that things such as homosexuality, murder, theft, etc were done way with.
There is a difference between the moral / criminal laws and the ceremonial / ritual laws.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 23, 2012 3:09:58 GMT 10
Not sure who these christian caricatures are, Matt.
Could you be a bit more specific?
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Post by slartibartfast on Dec 23, 2012 7:08:39 GMT 10
Moses? The dude who managed to part the Red Sea and got lost in the desert?
Go figure!
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Post by jody on Dec 23, 2012 9:14:15 GMT 10
Is this the latest rant from your pub crawling pastor, Matt?
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Post by matt on Dec 23, 2012 13:38:41 GMT 10
Is this the latest rant from your pub crawling pastor, Matt? No, but I do learn a lot from him. |
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Post by fat on Dec 23, 2012 14:34:07 GMT 10
Careful when you point that finger Matt - for the one finger you have pointing at someone there are three pointing back at you.
Romans 1:28-32 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God’s decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
2 Timothy 3:1 to 5 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 15:46:13 GMT 10
I think Matt has a point.
It's very PC to do away with the OT prohibition against homosexuality by saying it no longer applies but does that mean murder, incest and rape laws no longer apply?
As Matt says there is a distinction between moral / criminal laws and the ceremonial / ritual laws.
Some Christians prefer the approval of this world.
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Post by jody on Dec 23, 2012 17:19:03 GMT 10
Is this the latest rant from your pub crawling pastor, Matt? No, but I do learn a lot from him. Ummmm how to down 10 schooners?? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 17:50:39 GMT 10
Moses? The dude who managed to part the Red Sea and got lost in the desert? Go figure! Well, they lost a coin ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 17:52:07 GMT 10
OK Jesus, the are 617 laws of Moses.
Name them all, go on, I dare you.
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Post by matt on Dec 23, 2012 18:14:44 GMT 10
Hi Richo... you give yourself away everytime you post!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 18:20:45 GMT 10
Hi Richo... you give yourself away everytime you post! i'm not who ever that person is. |
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Post by jody on Dec 23, 2012 18:23:07 GMT 10
HG is either Richo or Tonto.
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Post by matt on Dec 23, 2012 18:47:12 GMT 10
He is Richo, has all the hallmarks. He is a self hating Jew.
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Post by slartibartfast on Dec 23, 2012 20:52:28 GMT 10
As opposed to someone who hates everyone?
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Post by matt on Dec 23, 2012 20:54:02 GMT 10
As opposed to someone who hates everyone? A self hater rejects who they are, rejects their heritage, they're ashamed of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 21:01:48 GMT 10
As opposed to someone who hates everyone? A self hater rejects who they are, rejects their heritage, they're ashamed of it. You mean like when a Jew converts Christianity or something ? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 21:03:00 GMT 10
So, Jesus, in What was has this Richo character rejected his heritage or acted ashamed of being Jewish ?
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Post by matt on Dec 23, 2012 22:48:22 GMT 10
A self hater rejects who they are, rejects their heritage, they're ashamed of it. You mean like when a Jew converts Christianity or something ? I have extended, not rejected. |
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Post by matt on Dec 23, 2012 22:48:49 GMT 10
So, Jesus, in What was has this Richo character rejected his heritage or acted ashamed of being Jewish ? You can a answer that ;-) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 23:05:30 GMT 10
You mean like when a Jew converts Christianity or something ? I have extended, not rejected. That's a contradiction. You're a hypocrite if you accuse that person of doing something that you're so blithe about. |
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Post by matt on Dec 23, 2012 23:32:08 GMT 10
The foundation of Christianity is Judaism.
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Post by matt on Dec 24, 2012 12:40:08 GMT 10
The foundation of Christianity is Judaism. ...the God of Islam. ;D Wrong. |
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