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Yahweh
Dec 22, 2012 15:56:18 GMT 10
Post by matt on Dec 22, 2012 15:56:18 GMT 10
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Yahweh
Dec 22, 2012 17:13:20 GMT 10
Post by slartibartfast on Dec 22, 2012 17:13:20 GMT 10
spam
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Yahweh
Dec 22, 2012 19:25:45 GMT 10
Post by jody on Dec 22, 2012 19:25:45 GMT 10
Yahweh....sounds like something someone would call out in excitement if they're drunk.....instead of Yahoo?
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Yahweh
Dec 22, 2012 21:42:31 GMT 10
Post by matt on Dec 22, 2012 21:42:31 GMT 10
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Yahweh
Dec 22, 2012 23:14:45 GMT 10
Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 22, 2012 23:14:45 GMT 10
its YHWH and he was called El and was married to Asherah - with whom he had 70 children By that argumentation, He was also a weather pattern. --El nino. (Buzz, El wasn't a word used exclusively for the Hebrew God, I keep telling you; but you are pretty thick..)
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Yahweh
Dec 27, 2012 1:57:01 GMT 10
Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 27, 2012 1:57:01 GMT 10
SO what? On what basis do you conclude that becausee some inscriptions that *might* point to the goddess Asherah , at some point, It must follow that all Yahweh worshippers believed in a divine couple?
Why is that demonstrably true over against the view held by basically all scholars of Israelite religion — that the textual and material record in Canaan shows us religious diversity?
You have hundreds of thousands of words from the first two centuries AD telling us things about Jesus of Nazareth, but you wouldn’t dare conclude that all Jesus followers in that time period believed the same things about Jesus.
By your REAL problem is that, as a rule, proper personal (or deity) names in Hebrew and other ancient Canaanite texts, do not take such pronouns suffixes. So, this basically rules out that the “asherah” as the goddess herself accompanying Yahweh right from the start.
Dr. Francesca Stavrakopoulou, is nothing more than an attention-seeking scholar who gets paid by BBC for stirring up controversy. If she were a serious scholar, she wouldn't have a problem with addressing other scholars on her programme.
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Yahweh
Dec 28, 2012 3:14:21 GMT 10
Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 28, 2012 3:14:21 GMT 10
ad hominem When you have a PhD you can speak So you have a PhD now, Buzz? I guess you'd better shut up, then.
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Yahweh
Dec 28, 2012 3:29:51 GMT 10
Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 28, 2012 3:29:51 GMT 10
we now know the ancient Israelites and Jews were polytheistic Often polytheistic, yes. If you took the time to know the material you criticize (The Bible), you'd already know this. Uh... DerP! The Canaanites were descendants of Ham, the son of Abraham No, he didn't change his name. He goes by many names. No, I know that this was a misinterpretation by your BBC show pony. No. You keep asserting it, but that's the extent of it. S
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Yahweh
Dec 28, 2012 11:49:04 GMT 10
Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 28, 2012 11:49:04 GMT 10
Who were 'They', Buzz? The Hebrews didn't exist until after the time of Jacob.
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Yahweh
Dec 29, 2012 8:14:28 GMT 10
Post by fat on Dec 29, 2012 8:14:28 GMT 10
Pretty soon Buzz no-one will have existed.
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Yahweh
Dec 30, 2012 9:14:54 GMT 10
Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 30, 2012 9:14:54 GMT 10
On a related note: The Japanese have a legend that is similar to the Abraham/Issac story. I heard about it when I was in Japan in 2004. It's speculation, but perhaps they are similar because it was based on an actual event?
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Yahweh
Dec 30, 2012 15:37:35 GMT 10
Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 30, 2012 15:37:35 GMT 10
Ur was one of the first village settlements founded (circa 4000 BC) by the so-called Ubaidian inhabitants of Sumer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaldea
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Yahweh
Dec 30, 2012 15:49:05 GMT 10
Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2012 15:49:05 GMT 10
Crank up your speakers (or even better, use quality headphones) and treat yourself to a BIG sonic experience....Or CLICK HERE to view the video-clip in a larger-sized format.Or CLICK HERE to view the video-clip in a larger-sized format.
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Yahweh
Dec 30, 2012 15:51:17 GMT 10
Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2012 15:51:17 GMT 10
There....now isn't that WAY better than Matty-boy's Hillsong Cult crap in the first message of this thread?
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Yahweh
Jan 2, 2013 1:02:58 GMT 10
Post by Occam's Spork on Jan 2, 2013 1:02:58 GMT 10
The reference to the Chaldeans has led biblical historians to an interesting conclusion. The Chaldeans lived around the sixth-to-fifth century B.C., when Jewish scribes first wrote down the oral tradition of Abraham's story as they put together the Hebrew Bible. Therefore, since the oral tradition mentioned Ur as the starting point for Abraham and his family, historians think that it would have been logical for scribes to assume the name was tied to the same place they knew in their period, says The Biblical World. However, archaeologists have uncovered evidence over the past several decades that sheds new light on the era of city-states which corresponds more closely to Abraham's time. Clay tablets offer ancient data Among these artifacts are some 20,000 clay tablets found deep inside in the ruins of the city of Mari in today's Syria. According to The Biblical World, Mari was located on the Euphrates River some 30 miles north of the border between Syria and Iraq. In its time, Mari was a key center on the trade routes between Babylon, Egypt and Persia (today's Iran). Mari was the capital of King Zimri-Lim in the 18th century B.C. until it was conquered and destroyed by King Hammurabi. In the late 20th century A.D., French archaeologists looking for Mari dug through centuries of sand to uncover Zimri-Lim's former palace. Deep within the ruins, they discovered tablets written in an ancient cuneiform script, one of the first forms of writing. Some of the tablets have been dated back 200 years before Zimri-Lim's time, which would place them around the same time that the Bible says Abraham's family departed Ur. Information translated from the Mari tablets would seem to indicate that the Sumerian Ur, not Ur of the Chaldeans, is more likely the place where Abraham and his family started their journey. ancienthistory.about.com/od/amen/a/122710-CW-Archaeological-Evidence-About-The-Story-Of-Abraham-In-The-Bible.htm
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Yahweh
Jan 2, 2013 1:07:50 GMT 10
Post by Occam's Spork on Jan 2, 2013 1:07:50 GMT 10
Your data is also outdated. According to the Bible, at God's bidding, Abraham left his home of Ur and journeyed to Canaan. However, many skeptics don't believe that either Abraham or the city of Ur ever existed. Leonard Woolley supposedly proved the critics wrong when he excavated the city of Ur in 1922. The city was found in southern Iraq. At the time Abraham lived, around 2000 B.C., Ur was a thriving metropolis. Woolley drew a map of the city and blueprints of some of the spacious dwellings. Based on his findings, it seems that Ur's streets were well-kept boulevards and the homes had indoor baths. Lessons on grammar and arithmetic were found on the tablets of schoolchildren in excavated classrooms. Excavators even reportedly found variations of the name of Abraham that dated to the century of his death. www.netplaces.com/bible-history/uncovering-genesis/abrahams-city-of-ur.htm
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