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Post by matt on Nov 5, 2012 23:22:26 GMT 10
I want to thank and praise Jesus for His grace!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 7:55:57 GMT 10
What a load of twaddle.
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Post by pim on Nov 6, 2012 8:02:53 GMT 10
I used to know a family who had a pet duck they called "Twaddles"! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 9:43:45 GMT 10
Great video and message Matt.
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Post by matt on Nov 8, 2012 10:55:42 GMT 10
Religiosity is a major symptom of mental illness. That fact must really suck for some of you people. You are very religious. You follow the religion of Atheism. You're not just someone who does not believe, but you have made it into a sect. |
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Post by matt on Nov 8, 2012 14:01:07 GMT 10
That is a copout and you know it!
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Post by pim on Nov 8, 2012 15:27:12 GMT 10
No Matt the off button on a TV is not a channel. Buzz that is excellent. I like it so much as a denial that atheism is a religion that I think I'll repeat it: No Matt the off button on a TV is not a channel. It's pithy, elegant, eloquent ... and not at all bombastic! Permission to use it, Sah! Not quite. What you've defined there is faith. Or rather the basis of a belief system. A religion is the fellowship of individuals who share a common faith and worship. "Faith" is individual. "Religion" is communitarian. In fact the sort of "telemarketing" that the God Inc "religions" go in for these days, with their stress on the individual, could raise a legitimate question about the validity of these outfits as "religions". It's a controversial point and I'm sure Skippy and Matt would be vocal in their disagreement. But it isn't the "end of the story" at all. And that wouldn't surprise me one little bit. I think that deserves an "Amen"!  |
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Post by pim on Nov 8, 2012 15:58:32 GMT 10
Thank you Buzz!
On my "faith is individual and religion is communitarian", I'v no doubt that plenty of dictionaries would define it that way. My dictionaries tend to be hefty tomes - leftovers from my former working life. My copy of Chambers has a lengthy entry which encompasses your point about belief and goes on to include forms of worship and other things. What I like about Chambers is the wealth of etymological data that it gives. And there lies the key to where the term "religion" comes from and why indeed we have two distinct words "religion" and "faith".
"Religion" as a noun is made up of three elements that linguists would call "morphemes" but let's settle for "distinct parts that can't be reduced any further".
/re-lig-ion/
The first part and the last part are a prefix and a suffix and you'll find them on thousands of words. The really important part is the middle part /-lig-/. It's the same /-lig-/ you'll get in words like "ligament" and "ligature" and it refers to the ties that bind.
It's why I insist that "faith" is individual while "religion" is communitarian. It doesn't deny or contradict your fundamental point. What it does do is point out that your dispute is with faith more than with religion, since faith is the basis of any religion.
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Post by fat on Nov 9, 2012 7:08:28 GMT 10
The off button is not a channel - it is still a choice though.
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