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Post by spindrift on Oct 27, 2012 13:28:07 GMT 10
Despite the anger we feel towards scumbags nothing is flawless and the law is an ass...you don't right a wrong with more killing.
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Post by jody on Oct 27, 2012 13:50:55 GMT 10
This is a very emotive subject. I have been there wanting someone to die because of what he did but I would never go through with it. I would rather see these people rot in Jail without any rights what so ever.
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Post by jody on Oct 27, 2012 14:18:52 GMT 10
Buzz as I said before.....my sister in law was abducted and brutally raped and murdered. The man who did this is due for parole soon. He only got 20 years. He should remain in Jail for life. No second chances when you take a life in cold blood.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2012 16:38:03 GMT 10
Quite an emotive issue the DP.
We already have the death penalty in Australia. Defenceless unborn babies are executed via abortion with no trial , lawyer, right of appeal.
If there are compelling medical reasons then under the lesser of two evils perspective then you can accept that. However I'd say that in a significant minority it is done for 'convenience' and the baby is simply unwanted.
As for innocent people being killed - I've never been persuaded by society's use of the protection of the innocent argument. In our utilitiarian mindset innocent people are killed daily in road traffic accidents and we don't ban vehicles because society judges the road deaths are outweighed by the greater good of vehicles to society.
I would agree that there is a case for the DP in criminal cases where guilt is established with forensic evidence. In cases where armed robbery, gangland hits etc involve murder then reap what you sow for deterrence effect.
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Post by matt on Oct 27, 2012 17:39:43 GMT 10
We don't have the death penalty, it is immoral and I will never support it.
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Post by matt on Oct 27, 2012 17:41:28 GMT 10
Quite an emotive issue the DP. We already have the death penalty in Australia. Defenceless unborn babies are executed via abortion with no trial , lawyer, right of appeal. That is true, and they get away with by calling it a medical procedure.
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Post by jody on Oct 27, 2012 18:56:06 GMT 10
I met Anita's father. Lovely man.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2012 20:55:52 GMT 10
Quite an emotive issue the DP. We already have the death penalty in Australia. Defenceless unborn babies are executed via abortion with no trial , lawyer, right of appeal. If there are compelling medical reasons then under the lesser of two evils perspective then you can accept that. However I'd say that in a significant minority it is done for 'convenience' and the baby is simply unwanted. As for innocent people being killed - I've never been persuaded by society's use of the protection of the innocent argument. In our utilitiarian mindset innocent people are killed daily in road traffic accidents and we don't ban vehicles because society judges the road deaths are outweighed by the greater good of vehicles to society. I would agree that there is a case for the DP in criminal cases where guilt is established with forensic evidence. In cases where armed robbery, gangland hits etc involve murder then reap what you sow for deterrence effect. If we are going to have the death penalty in a modern civilised society, then if it is ever proved that an innocent person has been executed, then all those responsible should be tried for murder (all police who investigated the case, the prosecutor, the judge and the jury) and if they are found guilty, then they should be executed for that unlawful judicial killing. I guarantee that would force those involved to get it right absolutely 100%.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2012 21:38:59 GMT 10
and stupid Kiwi train driving loonies should be silent and STFU And Chicken Little idiots with fortified bunkers stocked with baked beans should retreat to them and STF away from us intelligent folks.
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Post by matt on Oct 28, 2012 0:00:02 GMT 10
Late term abortion is murder.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 6:26:09 GMT 10
Late term abortion is murder. You are free to have unwanted foetuses transplanted into YOUR body if they are about to be aborted and you wish to do something about it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 8:11:46 GMT 10
At some stage we might have to bring back the death penalty simply because we haven't got enough jails to house all the scumbags being sentenced.
It's fine to say put them in jail for life ... but how many jails should we build? How much are we prepared to spend keeping thousands of sub-humans in jail till they rot?? For example, it costs $845 per day to keep Ivan Milat in prison, money that should be put to a better purpose than keeping this grotesque sub-human alive. And that goes for his emulating nephew as well!
In the US they no longer have the room for their more than 2 million prisoners. Jails that have a capacity of 80,000 inmates are housing more than 140,000. Where does it end??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 8:14:47 GMT 10
Do something about the inequalities in society which righties LOVE, but which create the conditions which breed crime.
Greedy righties are ALWAYS too dumb & thick to get it, then they whinge about the ultimate consequences which is crime!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 8:50:49 GMT 10
The conditions that breed crime?? I'll tell you about those conditions ... tens of thousands of young single girls willingly becoming pregnant to several different bogan males simply to get the baby bonus and to have the taxpayers fund their housing and living and education expenses. The baby bonus was the worst thing the Libs ever introduced and the consequences were exactly as we expected. It really was intended to entice working women to become pregnant but the bogans, druggies and refos went on a free for all ... think of it, all those potential little bogan brats who go on to become fully fledged criminals before they are 16.
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Post by anon on Oct 28, 2012 9:33:19 GMT 10
The baby bonus was the worst thing the Libs ever introduced and the consequences were exactly as we expected. It really was intended to entice working women to become pregnant but the bogans, druggies and refos went on a free for all ... think of it, all those potential little bogan brats who go on to become fully fledged criminals before they are 16. Agree 100% The baby bonus should be scrapped altogether however if the Government insists on offering incentives for people to have children those incentives should be restricted the those who actually contribute to society. If a couples main source of income is welfare they should be actively discouraged from having children by being excluded from eligibility for the baby bonus. My wife who is a nurse actually cared for Garry Lynch (Anita Cobby's dad) in his later years. Coincidently she also looked one of her killers mothers as well. I certainly don't know how he and his wife managed to cope. I do know one thing though. Anyone who did anything like this to one of my kids would be facing the death penalty.
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