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Post by garfield on Oct 16, 2012 9:34:40 GMT 10
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Post by pim on Oct 16, 2012 9:52:51 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 9:55:19 GMT 10
I thought about posting the original article about this creep. But I was also wondering if Pim would breathlessly beat me to it, this pedo creep being a South Australian politician. But then I realised ... he was a Labor politician and the lefties are only interested in Abbott's supposed "misogny."  So what is it about Labor politicians and their predilection for child sex abuses and child pornography??? Now let's see ... there was Milton Orkopoulos and his child sex and drug offences .... Keith Wright and Bill D'Arcy from Qld on child sex offences .... followed by Terry Martin for underaged child sex .... followed by Bernard Finnigan .... followed by ... probably others I can't think of. But no word at all from the lefties on this board. Now had they been Liberal politicians we would have been inundated with screams of outrage and the board would have been inundated with countless threads ... < sigh > |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 9:58:27 GMT 10
I would have thought it would be mandatory!  |
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Post by pim on Oct 16, 2012 10:03:54 GMT 10
Stellar he's a member of Parliament so he owes his position to the voters. The premier can sack him from the government but he can't sack him from parliament. That's up to the courts. Has he beern charged? If no charges have been formally laid as yet - and that, presumably is down to the DPP with the politicians strictly at arm's length from the judicial process, which is as it should be - then the presumption of innocence prevails and he keeps his seat in parliament. Once criminal charges are laid however I believe that's when the game changes. But don't blame Weatherill.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 10:14:11 GMT 10
Of course he's been charged!! Or do you discard anything adverse when it comes to Labor politicians?? And please note, Weatherill is only calling for him to resign now the suppression order has expired.
SA MP to stand trial over child pornography
Nicola Gage reported this story on Monday, September 24, 2012 18:38:00
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ASHLEY HALL: In South Australia a suppression order has expired, allowing us to publish the name of a state MP charged with child pornography offences.
Thirty-nine-year-old Bernard Finnigan's identity was finally revealed after a magistrate this afternoon found there was a case for him to answer on several charges. He's been committed for trial in the District Court.
The Premier, Jay Weatherill, is now calling for him to resign from Parliament.
Nicola Gage reports from Adelaide.
NICOLA GAGE: It's been a high-profile case, despite a statutory suppression on his name. And today's hearing was no different. A large media contingent packed courtroom 12 in the Adelaide Magistrate's Court.
Bernard Finnigan is charged with obtaining child pornography and taking steps to obtain child pornography.
His lawyer, Michael Abbott QC, argued aggravated charges against him should be dropped. But Magistrate Simon Smart's ruled Bernard Finnigan does have a case to answer. This quote is being read by an actor.
SIMON SMART QUOTE (voiceover): I am satisfied that a jury properly instructed could be satisfied of each of the elements of the offence beyond reasonable doubt taking the crown case at its highest. I therefore find a case to answer.
NICOLA GAGE: It's alleged the offences were committed at Sefton Park, where he lived, between August 2010 and March 2011. Bernard Finnigan pleaded not guilty to six indictable major indictable offences. Prosecutors dropped the remaining eight charges, which had been laid as alternatives to the major charges.
Michael Abbott will seek a judicial review of the Magistrate's ruling. He applied for a new suppression order on Finnigan's identity but was unsuccessful.
Outside court the prosecution didn't respond to questions. Instead, Bernard Finnigan made his first statement since his arrest.
BERNARD FINNIGAN: I have today entered a plea of not guilty. I will vigorously defend these charges in the proper place and that is a court of law. Like any citizen, I am presumed innocent.
NICOLA GAGE: But he said little more, despite probes from the surrounding media pack.
BERNARD FINNIGAN: I'll be making no further comment while the matter of a judicial review is being considered.
JOURNALIST 1: Do you intend to stay in Parliament?
JOURNALIST 2: Should you stand down pending that review?
JOURNALIST 3: Do you think the public thinks you would be, it would be appropriate?
NICOLA GAGE: Bernard Finnigan was promoted to the Labor front bench in February last year by then Premier, Mike Rann. He announced his resignation in April, the day after media reports that a state MP had been charged with child pornography offences. He's been sitting as an independent since.
South Australian Premier, Jay Weatherill, says he's shocked a former colleague has been charged with such awful crimes and he's called for him to resign.
JAY WEATHERILL: The criminal court process provides for a presumption of innocence. A separate set of considerations apply to his public office. Given the nature of these crimes and his public association with them, it's my judgement that he could not effectively discharge that office and that is why I'm calling upon him to resign.
NICOLA GAGE: Political commentator Clem Macintyre is from the University of Adelaide.
CLEM MACINTYRE: Inevitably he's seen to be associated with the Labor Party originally and there will be some repercussions there but I don't expect they will be significant.
NICOLA GAGE: We do have an election coming up in the next 18 months. Do you think we'll still be hearing about this and could it have any impact?
CLEM MACINTYRE: There will still be ripples going through, I would imagine. But we've got to remember that Bernard Finnigan was not appointed to a ministry by the current Premier. Jay Weatherill's come in well after Bernard Finnigan stepped away from the Labor Party.
Look, it's something that the Labor Party won't be happy about. It is the nearest we've got to a scandal really, in the time that Labor's been in office in South Australia since 2002. But I don't think it will be a significant factor when we go to the polls in March of 2014.
NICOLA GAGE: A date for Finnigan's judicial review is yet to be allocated but he'll appear in court next month for arraignment.
ASHLEY HALL: Nicola Gage.
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Post by pim on Oct 16, 2012 10:29:47 GMT 10
Well excuse me for not being 100% up on the news! OK, he's been charged! To be honest Stellar I don't know what is supposed to happen as far as this guy's spot in Parliament goes. But what I do know is that while his spot in the giovernment is down to the government itself, his spoit in parliament is down to the courts. When you say "mandatory" who does the "mandating" as far as a parliamentary seat goes? Of course that guy shouldn't be in parliament, and if found guilty he belongs behind bars. There are big issues at stake here: constitutional, criminal, ethical ... you name it. I suspect though that garfield is not really interested in any of those and what I find sleazy is the delight he takes in turning this into a cheap shabby political point-scoring exercise. If Labor is so evil, then why doesn't he dispense with the bullshit, cut to the chase, and demand the abolition of democracy so that the Labor Party can be declared a criminal organisation and banned? But I suspect even that wouldn't make him happy. He has a tabloid view of the world which means he has to find bad guys to be upset about. Whatever floats his boat, I guess ... |
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Post by garfield on Oct 16, 2012 10:32:12 GMT 10
Wonder if Gillard will try to protect him somehow, likes she protects other creeps and weirdos in the labor party.
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Post by pim on Oct 16, 2012 10:37:54 GMT 10
errr ... I believe this guy's in state parliament. Last time I looked Gillard was PM of Australia; a different jurisdiction altogether. Even if for argument's sake we accepted your intellectually bankrupt tabloid view of the universe, why on earth would Gillard have anything to do with him? She's probably never heard of him. And even if she had, she'd have zero interest in covering for him. This guy is poison. You wanna see how it's done when a guy becomes political poison and nobody wants to be associated with him so he's hung out to dry? Just watch what happens to Finnegan. He is now a non-person.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 10:44:54 GMT 10
It is a high profile case Pim and the Sth Aust papers would have been inundated with it. As for the suppression order, we already knew his name because the story appeared in the papers months ago. And I thought you were au fait with political matters especially in SA. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 10:54:34 GMT 10
Well I'm not surprised the board apologist for all matters leftie/Labor/Islam would make a joke of it. |
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Post by garfield on Oct 16, 2012 11:05:22 GMT 10
Have a f#ckin look at it would ya, would you leave your kids alone with this?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 11:08:06 GMT 10
doesn't the sight of that slug just make your skin creep? I mean just what sort of shit would vote for scum like that? Labor voters of course ... who else??  I wonder if another leftie judge will let him off with a wholly suspended gaol sentence like this creep, Terry Martin ....  |
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Post by pim on Oct 16, 2012 11:48:05 GMT 10
doesn't the sight of that slug just make your skin creep? I mean just what sort of shit would vote for scum like that? He's a MLC so that's Upper House. Who'd vote for him? Proportional representation ... how much thought do any of us give to an upper house ballot paper where we vote for a ticket rather than an individual? Some people say "abolish state upper houses!" In fact there was a referendum on it in NSW as I recall back in the 1960s. Labor was in favour of abolition, the Libs were dead against. The Libs won and NSW still has an upper house. Dunno about SA. They've always had an upper house too. Don't think there's ever been a move to abolish it. Qld abolished its upper house in the 1920s and these days every political pundit says that in retrospect that was a bad move because it means no check on whoever is in government. State Lower Houses are based on single member electorates and state upper houses are based on proportional voting with the whole state treated as one electorate. It used to be that state upper houses were elected on a property franchise only. They've never been world beaters in democracy. More like places where political parties (both sides!) can find a comfortable billet for party hacks who'd never win an election to the lower house. So ... Qld got rid of its lower house about 90 years ago and the common wisdom these days is that was a bad move. And yet the reality remains that upper houses are very comfortable retirement homes for party hacks and time servers whom the electorate at large has never heard of. Be honest! Ask yourself the question: last time you voted in a state election, who did you vote for in the upper house? Did you vote above the line and just mark the box labelled "Liberal" or "Labor"? Or did you vote below the line and carefully number each of the boxes, making sure you didn't make a mistake and render your vote informal? I'll be upfront - I can't remember. I probably marked the "Labor" box above the line because I was still a newcomer to SA and wouldn't have had a clue who any of the upper house candidates were. Can you remember how you voted? So there you go, buzz. That's how these dudes get into parliament. |
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Post by pim on Oct 16, 2012 13:32:10 GMT 10
So a former branch president of a state branch (what state?) of the Liberal party - and a divisional VP no less, and who'd been on more selection committees that I "could poke a stick at" - so presumably Buzz wants us to believe he was a mover and a shaker in whatever state Liberal outfit he's referring to - comes onto the board with all the gravitas of his heavy involvement in the machinery of an unnamed State branch of the Liberal Party and refers to a former (and disgraced) Labor member, Belinda Neal, as "that blonde cow married to that wog prick". Please stand for federal Parliament as a Liberal candidate in a safe Liberal seat, buzz! Do the factional stuff and become Leader. Even PM!! Stand in the seat of Higgins, knock off that brunette Liberal cow with the bog Irish name and snaffle the Liberal preselection for yourself. Tellya what! Here's the deal! You promise me that when you get into public life, as a Liberal candidate and subsequently as an MP, you'll always use language in public like "blonde cow married to that wog prick". Promise!! I tell ya mate, I'll move down to Higgins and run your campaign for you. But ya gotta promise to use that sorta language in public. Always!  |
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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 16, 2012 18:09:05 GMT 10
I trust that these "blokes" will get their justice in jail.
I have no time for child molesters and I don't think that their politics has anything to do with it. They are just scum, anyone who thinks kids are fair game is scum.
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Post by Salem on Oct 17, 2012 22:05:01 GMT 10
Have a f#ckin look at it would ya, would you leave your kids alone with this? To be honest when I read this story I thought that picture was part of another story. Because, and I don't say this to mock anyone with developmental disabilities, but I though he had Down Syndrome. He has the typical head shape and features. I was wrong though. On first glance, I thought he'd be harmless. |
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Post by matt on Oct 17, 2012 23:03:34 GMT 10
Pim, I always vote below the line in NSW elections, because in NSW you don't have to fill all the numbers in.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 7:05:47 GMT 10
Wasn't this guy the Police Minister at some stage? Wasn't he even, dare I say it, considered to be a possible Premier of SA??
I can't believe Pim wouldn't have heard about his arrest. It made front page news here - with his full name and I thought of posting the article because of Labor politicians' predilection for child sex abuse.
That is something that has never been explained. Why so many Labor politicians have been involved in such grubby dealings with vulnerable kids.
Typically though, the lefties are nowhere to be seen when it comes to condemning this vile scumbag. Except Phil, of course, whose only comments are to make a joke of the whole matter.
Disgusting creeps, lefties.
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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 18, 2012 7:23:12 GMT 10
Typically though, the lefties are nowhere to be seen when it comes to condemning this vile scumbag. Except Phil, of course, whose only comments are to make a joke of the whole matter. Disgusting creeps, lefties. Read #19. And what does this have to do with politics? A crminal is a criminal no matter what side of the political fence they sit. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 7:32:42 GMT 10
But of course you ignore the fact that Labor politicians regularly come to our attention for their grubby child sex offences. Who next.  |
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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 18, 2012 7:36:39 GMT 10
I'll keep that in mind the next time a non ALP figure is up on charges.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 7:37:45 GMT 10
Child sex offences???
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