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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 7, 2012 22:38:43 GMT 10
Imagine if America was a dictatorship. You could let 1% of the people have all the nation's wealth. You could help your rich friends get richer by cutting their taxes. And bailing them out when they gamble and lose. You could ignore the needs of the poor for health care and education. Your media would appear free, but would secretly be controlled by one person and his family. You could wiretap phones. You could torture foreign prisoners. You could have rigged elections. You could lie about why you go to war. You could fill your prisons with one particular racial group, and no one would complain. You could use the media to scare the people into supporting policies that are against their interests.
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Post by jody on Oct 8, 2012 8:00:52 GMT 10
Don't they already do all that ?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 8:28:06 GMT 10
Don't they already do all that ? Sssssssssh.....you'll upset Matty-boy. He is soooo in love with the USA that he'd have sex with them if it was possible to have sexual intercourse with a country.  |
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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 8, 2012 19:06:35 GMT 10
Don't they already do all that ? Don't tell the righties! |
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Post by Salem on Oct 8, 2012 19:12:29 GMT 10
Don't they already do all that ? Sssssssssh.....you'll upset Matty-boy. He is soooo in love with the USA that he'd have sex with them if it was possible to have sexual intercourse with a country.  Lol, thats rich, since you yourself have a fascination with 'Matty-boy' and a bunny-boiling fixation and obsession with anything, every thing, and all things American. I have no doubt you read anything and everything on America, with one hand. Your obsession with America is perverse and nauseating. |
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Post by garfield on Oct 8, 2012 22:31:28 GMT 10
The US saved us from the krauts, the gooks and the commies and although the left will never forgive them, reasonable people everywhere should be eternally gratefull.
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Post by pim on Oct 8, 2012 23:27:20 GMT 10
Garfield do you really have to reduce everything to that tabloid bullshit level? I haven't seen anything else from you but trivialisation, simplistic reductionism and a grotesque distortion of fact and reality. Perhaps this is some sort of online game you play. Y'know, you come online and you can be any sort of idiot you want. If so then far be it from me to spoil your fun. I'm not anti-American and I support the American alliance. In fact as our relations with China deepen - and you don't seriously think that Australia's relations with China will always be "business only", do you? - then our alliance with the US takes on a new importance with the "wriggle room" that alliance would give us with the Chinese. That's a nuanced view and it's something that a knee-jerk visceral anti-American like KTJ just can't understand and I can't be bothered arguing with him about it. But you're a bit of a KTJ fruitcake yourself, aren't you, with this "Board Clown" tabloid stuff. Did the Americans "save" us from the Krauts? Not sure I know how Australia was threatened by Nazi Germany in the same way Australia was threatened by Japan, but OK it was a global conflict and it was in Australia's interests that Hitler be defeated. But who did the "defeating"? Are you saying that the loss by the Germans of their Sixth Army at Stalingrad was down to the Americans? Stalingrad was the defeat that showed the Germans the jig was up. Let's just say that to defeat the Germans the Russians paid the blood price and the Americans did the bankrolling. The Germans deployed 150 divisions on the Russian front and when the Allies opened the Western Front on D-Day 6 June 1944 there were 40 German divisions to meet them. So go figure. Who are the "gooks"? I thought it was the slur that was cast on the Vietnamese during the Vietnam War. Are you saying Australia was "saved" from the Vietnamese? Or are you being tabloid again and a bit loose with the historical truth. Japanese ... Vietnamese ... who cares! They're all gooks! Is that it? I think you're referring to the Japanese in WW2. Did the Americans "save" us from the Japanese? Well, let's just say we were glad they were there. Mind you the Japs knocked the shit out of any US naval capacity in the Pacific for a year after Pearl Harbor and we were on our own. Milne Bay, Kokoda ... are you saying this was all down to the Yanks? Jeez garfield! I don't have a problem with you being pro-American. Hell, I'm pro-American! But do you have to toady to them and kiss their arses to the point that you'll ignore and deny your own country's history? What else was there? The commies? Oh yes, you say the US saved us from the commies. Did they? Were we threatened with invasion? By communists? Who were these communists? I know my country's history enough to understand that in the late 1940s there was an internal threat within Australia with certain strategic unions like the miners and the wharfies being controlled by Communists and that there were some pretty bad strikes in 1949 which were put down by the actions of a Labor Government led by Ben Chifley - a Labor hero. I also understand that there was a security threat within Australia in the 1950s which was blown wide open under the Liberal Government of Bob Menzies. Seems that we Australians handled these "Commies" pretty well on our Pat Malone with no assistance from the Yanks. So what is this rubbish??  |
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Post by matt on Oct 8, 2012 23:59:49 GMT 10
Don't they already do all that ? Sssssssssh.....you'll upset Matty-boy. He is soooo in love with the USA that he'd have sex with them if it was possible to have sexual intercourse with a country. You have a filthy and immoral mind. YOU ARE SICK! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 10:19:00 GMT 10
The Americans didn't save us from the Japanese in WWII. The Japs were building a railway to India because there were millions of Indian men, and an endless supply of food and weapons which were to be used against the British and the rest of the allies who fought against the Japs. The Indian National Army under Chandra Subhas Bose. The Japs had their Stalingrad at Imphal and Kohima, and they were defeated by the Brotish all because of Orde Wingate and the Chindits. Wingate and the Chindits were behind the Japanese lines cutting supplies and while what they did was soon repaired, the Japs has 3 Divisions lout looking for them. Had the Japanese not had Wingate and the Chindits with which to contend, they would have had all the men and supplies they needed to win at Imphal and Kohima and take India and win the Pacific and Indian Ocean war. After Wingate and the loss of India and Burma, the Japs could not ever win the war. people have the false belief that it was the 2 atomic bombs that forced the Japs to surrender - it wasn't. It was Stalin and Operation Autumn Storm, and the Japs knew they had better surrender to the Americans than lose to the Soviets. The Yanks never saved anyone from the Krauts - that was the Soviets at Stalingrad, and Kurst and Berlin. The Soviets lost 9 million military personell defeating the Nazis. So really it was Stalin and not the Yanks who defeated both the Nazis and the Japanese - with the help of Wingate. pim is something of a Kraut himself - but thats Ok because as a fellow Bombast, I am quite fond of him. As for Garfield, he makes me laugh. I like his shock tactics and blunt messages.  ;D |
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Post by garfield on Oct 9, 2012 11:32:45 GMT 10
Garfield do you really have to reduce everything to that tabloid bullshit level? I haven't seen anything else from you but trivialisation, simplistic reductionism and a grotesque distortion of fact and reality. Perhaps this is some sort of online game you play. Y'know, you come online and you can be any sort of idiot you want. If so then far be it from me to spoil your fun. I'm not anti-American and I support the American alliance. In fact as our relations with China deepen - and you don't seriously think that Australia's relations with China will always be "business only", do you? - then our alliance with the US takes on a new importance with the "wriggle room" that alliance would give us with the Chinese. That's a nuanced view and it's something that a knee-jerk visceral anti-American like KTJ just can't understand and I can't be bothered arguing with him about it. But you're a bit of a KTJ fruitcake yourself, aren't you, with this "Board Clown" tabloid stuff. Did the Americans "save" us from the Krauts? Not sure I know how Australia was threatened by Nazi Germany in the same way Australia was threatened by Japan, but OK it was a global conflict and it was in Australia's interests that Hitler be defeated. But who did the "defeating"? Are you saying that the loss by the Germans of their Sixth Army at Stalingrad was down to the Americans? Stalingrad was the defeat that showed the Germans the jig was up. Let's just say that to defeat the Germans the Russians paid the blood price and the Americans did the bankrolling. The Germans deployed 150 divisions on the Russian front and when the Allies opened the Western Front on D-Day 6 June 1944 there were 40 German divisions to meet them. So go figure. Who are the "gooks"? I thought it was the slur that was cast on the Vietnamese during the Vietnam War. Are you saying Australia was "saved" from the Vietnamese? Or are you being tabloid again and a bit loose with the historical truth. Japanese ... Vietnamese ... who cares! They're all gooks! Is that it? I think you're referring to the Japanese in WW2. Did the Americans "save" us from the Japanese? Well, let's just say we were glad they were there. Mind you the Japs knocked the shit out of any US naval capacity in the Pacific for a year after Pearl Harbor and we were on our own. Milne Bay, Kokoda ... are you saying this was all down to the Yanks? Jeez garfield! I don't have a problem with you being pro-American. Hell, I'm pro-American! But do you have to toady to them and kiss their arses to the point that you'll ignore and deny your own country's history? What else was there? The commies? Oh yes, you say the US saved us from the commies. Did they? Were we threatened with invasion? By communists? Who were these communists? I know my country's history enough to understand that in the late 1940s there was an internal threat within Australia with certain strategic unions like the miners and the wharfies being controlled by Communists and that there were some pretty bad strikes in 1949 which were put down by the actions of a Labor Government led by Ben Chifley - a Labor hero. I also understand that there was a security threat within Australia in the 1950s which was blown wide open under the Liberal Government of Bob Menzies. Seems that we Australians handled these "Commies" pretty well on our Pat Malone with no assistance from the Yanks. So what is this rubbish?? See, told you they'll never forgive them ;D |
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Post by pim on Oct 9, 2012 11:47:10 GMT 10
<sigh!> Have fun |
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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 9, 2012 18:29:20 GMT 10
Starts at around 28 seconds. ;D
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Lol, thats rich, since you yourself have a fascination with 'Matty-boy' and a bunny-boiling fixation and obsession with anything, every thing, and all things American. I have no doubt you read anything and everything on America, with one hand. Your obsession with America is perverse and nauseating.
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