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Post by jody on Oct 7, 2012 17:45:32 GMT 10
very pleased I must say. 6.45pm and it is absolutely perfect outside. Might pop out soon, have dinner on the verandah and enjoy the sunset.  |
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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 7, 2012 17:52:52 GMT 10
About time. The kids sleep longer now!
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Post by matt on Oct 7, 2012 18:13:20 GMT 10
very pleased I must say. 6.45pm and it is absolutely perfect outside. Might pop out soon, have dinner on the verandah and enjoy the sunset. It isn't perfect, it is quite cold! |
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Post by jody on Oct 7, 2012 18:17:26 GMT 10
beautiful weather
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2012 18:18:44 GMT 10
You Aussies are a week late.
We've had daylight saving since last weekend in Kiwiland.
Our daylight saving begins on the last Sunday in September and ends on the first Sunday in April. So we spend slightly more than half of each year in daylight saving.
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Post by matt on Oct 7, 2012 18:21:28 GMT 10
You Aussies are a week late. We've had daylight saving since last weekend in Kiwiland. Our daylight saving begins on the last Sunday in September and ends on the first Sunday in April. So we spend slightly more than half of each year in daylight saving. We used to have a mishmash of Daylight Saving start and finish times and it depended on each State. It was decided after negotiations that there be a consensus and this is why we start on the first Sunday of October. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2012 18:24:29 GMT 10
Do those banana-benders Queenslanders still avoid daylight saving because they're scared of their curtains fading quicker than if they forego daylight saving? ;D What about those Western Australians? Have their seen the light yet, or are they still living in the dark-ages?  |
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Post by jody on Oct 7, 2012 18:26:28 GMT 10
still in the dark ages
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Post by pim on Oct 7, 2012 20:17:13 GMT 10
Don't forget the Northern Territory. From Alice Springs to Darwin they're now an hour behind Adelaide. So there are now 5 time zones in Australia.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2012 20:19:20 GMT 10
Don't forget the Northern Territory. From Alice Springs to Darwin they're now an hour behind Adelaide. So there are now 5 time zones in Australia. We only have two timezones in ENZED. You're probably scratching your head over that one, but its true....we do have two time zones. Ever hear of the Chatham Islands? I've been there, although not too many Kiwis have. |
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Post by matt on Oct 7, 2012 20:26:17 GMT 10
Do those banana-benders Queenslanders still avoid daylight saving because they're scared of their curtains fading quicker than if they forego daylight saving? ;D What about those Western Australians? Have their seen the light yet, or are they still living in the dark-ages? The State of Queensland will never adopt Daylight Saving, I think it is within the DNA of Queenslanders to reject such a notion. Western Australia rejected daylight saving at a referendum, however, if the referendum were only held in Perth, it would have succeeded. It seems the majority of the opposition to Daylight Saving is in the regional areas. |
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Post by jody on Oct 7, 2012 20:57:38 GMT 10
it's each to their own but I can't understand why anyone doesn't want it.
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Post by pim on Oct 7, 2012 21:05:03 GMT 10
Matt's right. I've always thought it pretty dumb that Central Standard Time (ignoring daylight saving for the sake of argument) was only half an hour behind Eastern Standard Time, and one-and-a-half hours ahead of Western Standard Time. Anywhere else in the world Central Time would have been an hour behind Eastern Time, and an hour ahead of Western Time. Apparently it was the farmers who originally lobbied against SA and the NT having a separate time zone from the eastern states at all, arguing that they needed to be in the same time zone as the eastern states. All well and good until you realise the physical size of SA and that the further west you travel from Adelaide the more anomalous it becomes. Even the half hour causes problems. It should be an hour. Apparently when you go to places like Port Lincoln and Ceduna the fact that they're only half an hour behind Sydney means day and night are at crazy times. Never having been to those places I haven't experienced it for myself.
I'm not alone in arguing for the Central time zone to be an hour behind the Eastern (standard) time zone instead of half an hour, but such is the power of the farmer lobby that half an hour is the most the powers that be of that era could get them to accept.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2012 21:26:00 GMT 10
Yep....it all reminds me of the 1957 book, “ They're a Weird Mob” by Nino Culotta aka John O'Grady. My late Dad used to have that book in one of his bookshelves (although I couldn't find it when we were clearing out our parent's place after our Mum died a few months after Dad). You Aussies sure are a Weird Mob alright!  |
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Post by Salem on Oct 8, 2012 14:57:44 GMT 10
I can't understand those who don't understand why Qld and the west don't like or have ds. Its all fine to say you 'don't understand why' if you live in a COLDER climate. But if you lived up here, where it can get to 42+ degrees - tell me honestly that you would want ds then? The fact of the matter is, if anyone bothered to do a little research instead of being ignorant, they'd see that Qld, and NT and WA are closer to the equator than down south. I understand in WA, the sun doesn't go down until 8:30/9pm, and thats without ds. Clearly, half a brain would tell you that they therefore, don't need it, as they already have it. I shake my head at the sheer ignorance spewed on this topic. If you live in a southern state or country like NZ, HOW can you possibly UNDERSTAND? Its pure ignorance. I guarantee you if you lived in the states you deride, you'd be saying the opposite, especially those who don't like heat. If you don't live in a hot climate closer to the equator - HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY *UNDERSTAND*?
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Post by jody on Oct 8, 2012 17:16:44 GMT 10
Salem where I live can get up to 45 deg in summer.
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Post by pim on Oct 8, 2012 17:26:18 GMT 10
Ever experienced an Adelaide heat wave? A fortnight in January or February in which the temperature doesn't go below 40° and during which it can go over 45°. How people coped before aircon is anyone's guess.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 17:32:33 GMT 10
Ever experienced an Adelaide heat wave? A fortnight in January or February in which the temperature doesn't go below 40° and during which it can go over 45°. How people coped before aircon is anyone's guess. They used to be TOUGH! |
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Post by Salem on Oct 8, 2012 17:56:35 GMT 10
Agreed Pim. But Jody, that would be a rarity for there. And its not sub-tropical to tropical environment where you are. Try that for an average day. With high humidity. You'd be fleeing to ACT/TAS or NZ to escape the heat. The simple fact is, its easy for someone to mouth off about a place they have no experience in so don't understand the weather/humidity patterns. Of course you don't understand. You've never lived here. If you did, you'd understand completely. Its like me calling people in America stupid for having furnaces in their homes, from my subtropical winter here. If I have never experienced a winter in America, I should shut my mouth because I have no idea what I am talking about. The weather patterns and humidity in NW even Sth Qld and are completely and utterly different from those in Sydney or the Hunter Valley. It isn't one size fits all. You can't say just because its right for you guys down there, then it should be right for us up here. It simply doesn't work that way. Fortunately or unfortunately, Qld is simply not suited to ds. The climate patterns are all wrong for it. It doesn't mean one state is backward or forward or sideways, it just means like a round peg goes in a round hole, ds isn't compatible to Qld climate. Not everywhere can have ds, because not everywhere has the climate patterns that are conducive to ds.
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Post by Salem on Oct 8, 2012 17:59:20 GMT 10
EG, do you understand that moving the clock forward means the sun is still up at night when it wouldn't be? Do you know that generally with the sun, especially in summer, that brings heat? Whereas nighttime brings a drop in temps? Surely even you can figure out this one. Use your your brains.  PS when students walk home from school at 3pm, its 2pm normal time. Around 2pm, is when UV rates are at there highest. There is a reason the Queensland Cancer Council is against ds..... |
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Post by Salem on Oct 8, 2012 18:02:26 GMT 10
Refer to my previous message EG, or stop playing dumb. |
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Post by Salem on Oct 8, 2012 18:08:12 GMT 10
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Post by pim on Oct 8, 2012 18:29:00 GMT 10
You probably think daylight saving fades the curtains too. Damn! That was gonna be my line!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 18:39:52 GMT 10
Fortunately or unfortunately, Qld is simply not suited to ds. The climate patterns are all wrong for it. It doesn't mean one state is backward or forward or sideways, it just means like a round peg goes in a round hole, ds isn't compatible to Qld climate. Not everywhere can have ds, because not everywhere has the climate patterns that are conducive to ds. My brother has lived in Queensland for decades (since the 1980s) and he reckons daylight saving would be great, except it won't happen because the Queenslanders all around him are backwards hicks who think their curtains would fade faster if they had daylight saving. I always rub it in to him whenever we switch to daylight saving in NZ, and he always then mouths off about Queenslanders. |
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Post by jody on Oct 8, 2012 18:40:30 GMT 10
Salem...our summer is usually between 35 and 45 and I am near the coast so we suffer pretty bad humidity as well. I have been to QLD in summer and it isn't that much different to here....except for maybe the far north. The humidity up there is a killer.
Phil is also perfectly correct....DLS does not make the sun shine longer.....we just get the extra hour of light in the afternoon rather than the morning.
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