Buzz is taking a vacation.

[Occam's Spork]

There are laws against verbal assault in every jurisdiction. It is rarely invoked, but they exist. On places where jurisdictions correlate such as the internet, they are sometimes difficult to enforce.

I want to state for the record, I don't mind a bit of playful banter. I often engage in it myself. But I will take a hard stand when the attacks stop being situational, and become personal in nature. I will not tolerate bullying or name calling.

So to labour the point:
Situational satire is fine.
Personal attacks are not.

I've given Buzz a week vacation, since he decided he'd give everyone who disagreed with him, a new designation.

[Deleted]

Well I object.

I am perfectly happy for Buzzy-boy to call me a retard, a dipshit, a dipstick, a wanker, a kidfŭcker, or anything else he desires to call me.


“Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will not hurt me!”

[Occam's Spork]

Just because it doesn't bother you, doesn't make it ethical behavior.

[Occam's Spork]

After discussing Buzz's conduct with Jody,
I've decided to reduce Buzz's punishment to 48 hours, for a first offense.

[Deleted]

I was not abusive nor a Bully.

On what grounds was I banned?

Why was I not warned?

[Occam's Spork]

You were abusive. You were calling everyone who disagreed with you a narcissist, and a mental deficient. This is a baseless ad hominem, as you are not qualified to make those assessments. (Even someone who was qualified wouldn't outright make those sorts of statements) You also berate anyone who doesn't agree 100% with everything you write, leaving nothing open to discussion, that makes you a bully.

If you read the TOS, you will find I am not bound by any obligation to warn you. "Forum administrators and moderators reserve the right, in their sole discretion, to delete or modify forum posts, revoke membership to the forum, block access to the forum, modify Your account profile, or modify any User Content (as defined in Section 15 below) on the forum." I discussed your behavior with Jody, and she agreed you had crossed the line. So, I don't stand alone on this.

You shouldn't need to be warned, you ought to know what is abusive and unethical behavior. We are grown men, not children. Leave your schoolyard behavior in the schoolyard. Get some daddy pants and be a bit grown up when you are dealing with other people.

You made a penalty, I placed you in the penalty box. It's as plain as that.

If you tore into anyone else, I'd do the same thing.

[slartibartfast]

You're certainly warned now! ;D

[pim]

May 5, 2013 12:45:09 GMT 10 @buzzock said:

I was not abusive nor a Bully.

That's debatable. You abuse the board with your attempts to hijack threads and also with your name calling. I think the name-calling comes under the headings of both "abusive" and "bully". But I'm not a mod.

I choose to offer an answer because clearly you want to claim "victim" status so you put it out there in the public domain for us all to read. If you intended it for Dib alone you'd have contacted him via PM. Instead you've decided to grandstand on the issue. Ever been to a football match where you've sat in a crowded grandstand and some clown is making a galah of himself and interfering with other people's enjoyment of the match? Expect to hear "Siddown and STFU ya dickhead!"

On what grounds was I banned?

This isn't a court of law and your "rights" haven't really been trampled on. Just pull your head in a bit and stop giving people the shits and you'll be OK.

Why was I not warned?

Weren't you? Oh well then, now you have been!

[Occam's Spork]

I don't see anyone offering you any tea or sympathy, Buzz.
Perhaps you need to re-evaluate your conduct.

I get that you are angry, but let's try to move on.

[Deleted]

ah but its ok for you c***s to do that to me.

there are 2 rule books in here

you hand out shit all the time and when someone stands up to you you get all crappy when your own medicine is handed back.

I have said what Narcissism is and I have pointed it out - thats not abuse.

If you are a Narcissist you devalue and invalidate others and use character assassination.

And pim, Dib and a few other do exactly that all the time.

Devaluation is a nasty thing to do to others, as is invalidation. All I have done is point that out.

Character assassination is a dead give away - only a Narcissist will do that.

So all I am doing is pointing that out.

i wish you c***s would say shit like this to my face.

[pim]

Siddown and STFU ya mug

[Gort]

[Deleted]

May 5, 2013 13:14:45 GMT 10 Occam's Spork said:

You were abusive. You were calling everyone who disagreed with you a narcissist, and a mental deficient. This is a baseless ad hominem, as you are not qualified to make those assessments. (Even someone who was qualified wouldn't outright make those sorts of statements) You also berate anyone who doesn't agree 100% with everything you write, leaving nothing open to discussion, that makes you a bully.

If you read the TOS, you will find I am not bound by any obligation to warn you. "Forum administrators and moderators reserve the right, in their sole discretion, to delete or modify forum posts, revoke membership to the forum, block access to the forum, modify Your account profile, or modify any User Content (as defined in Section 15 below) on the forum." I discussed your behavior with Jody, and she agreed you had crossed the line. So, I don't stand alone on this.

You shouldn't need to be warned, you ought to know what is abusive and unethical behavior. We are grown men, not children. Leave your schoolyard behavior in the schoolyard. Get some daddy pants and be a bit grown up when you are dealing with other people.

You made a penalty, I placed you in the penalty box. It's as plain as that.

If you tore into anyone else, I'd do the same thing.

You are the bully and you invalidate people and devalue them and use character assassination all the time.

You call it demolishing me - but its just devaluation.

Of course you love the power and control over others - typical.

[Occam's Spork]

If you have an issue with someone, Buzz. --Report it.
I've been challenged recently to become a more proactive moderator, and so I have been stepping up my game.

But also know that if you start up with this "mental deficient, narcissistic," bullshit again, I will swat you down.

If you can't make your argument without attacking your opponents, you have no place here.

[Occam's Spork]

I'm not going to play this game with you Buzz.
You were wrong. -Full stop.

I don't devalue people, I love people. But that doesn't mean I have to embrace everything they say.

I'm sorry if you disagree, but I really don't care what you think.

[Gort]

[Deleted]

May 5, 2013 13:42:19 GMT 10 pim said:

Siddown and STFU ya mug

Lets take the classic example - I made a point - a good point and a valid point - and you said that I "stumbled on a point by accident".

That is classic devaluation - I did not stumble and it was not by accident - but you are a nasty bastard and thats all.

You are despicable and a bombastic pedant.

[Occam's Spork]

You know what Buzz?
I really don't need to defend myself.
Your conduct was unethical, and that's the end of it.

Continue this course and there'll be more of the same.
That's all I have to say on the matter.

[Gort]

Music time!

[slartibartfast]

Buzz, suggest before you hit "post reply", you check what you have written and consider the content. If it's over the top abusive, you're not going to get away with it. Would you rather contribute or watch?

[Deleted]

May 5, 2013 13:29:08 GMT 10 Occam's Spork said:

I don't see anyone offering you any tea or sympathy, Buzz.

Well I stuck up for Buzz.

I might think he is a wanker, but he is entitled to be a wanker if he wishes.

And I am NOT thin-skinned like some people around here. If Buzzy-boy wishes to abuse me, he is free to do so....it doesn't worry me.

I'll only dish it out right back with interest, so what's the problem?

[Gort]

When posters go completely over the top, like Garfield and Buzzo - exhibiting OCD behavior, it is incumbent upon the moderators to take action, else the board becomes littered with abuse ad infinitum.

[jody]

MOVE ON!!!

[Gort]

[Deleted]

May 5, 2013 14:26:15 GMT 10 kiwithrottlejockey said:

May 5, 2013 13:29:08 GMT 10 Occam's Spork said:

I don't see anyone offering you any tea or sympathy, Buzz.

Well I stuck up for Buzz.

I might think he is a wanker, but he is entitled to be a wanker if he wishes.

And I am NOT thin-skinned like some people around here. If Buzzy-boy wishes to abuse me, he is free to do so....it doesn't worry me.

I'll only dish it out right back with interest, so what's the problem?

Onya Kiwi.