Jonesys off the reservation again

[garfield]

;D


Alan Jones suggests 'left-wing radical students' link to Boston bombing


Broadcaster Alan Jones is facing an online backlash after suggesting on national television that "left-wing radical students" were behind the Boston Marathon bombings and that Australia should reconsider its intake of foreign university students in response.

Read more: www.smh.com.au/national/alan-jones-suggests-leftwing-radical-students-link-to-boston-bombing-20130417-2hz8y.html#ixzz2QgXAEy4z

[slartibartfast]

Typical right-wing nut job.

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Well, he is one of your mates, Garfy

[garfield]

Hey HG take a break, you don't have to be a fuckwit every day of your life.

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Jones is a sick minded indvidual as is Ray Hadley on 2GB.......if anything this was the work of a RW American, as America suffers much from shootings and people going ape shit and the way the NY police seem to be handling the crime ....and fuck off 2GB we don't need this shit in the media.

[garfield]

Apr 17, 2013 17:29:58 GMT 10 @spindrift111 said:

if anything this was the work of a RW American,

You're as big a dick as jones is making baseless allegations like that.

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You missed the reports on the news this evening, have you Garfy ?
Dunno if the MX has an online presence, but they reported that the investigators were indicating that the culprit(s) were domestic terrorists.

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Garflunkle wouldn't know if a terrorist blew his bum off..!!

[slartibartfast]

Expert blames right-wing terrorists for Boston Marathon bombings

THE fatal explosions at the Boston Marathon have hints of a right-wing terrorist attack rather than al-Qaeda-inspired extremism, according to one of the world's leading experts on counter-terrorism.

Richard Barrett, the former United Nations co-ordinator for the al-Qaeda and Taliban monitoring team, said it was too early to say who was to blame for the blasts.

But Barrett, who has served with MI5, MI6 and the British Foreign Office, said the timing of the attack on Patriots' Day and the relatively small size of the devices suggested the work of a domestic extremist.

Barrett, who is now senior director at the Qatar International Academy for Security Studies (QIASS), said: "At the moment it looks more likely that it was a right-wing terrorist incident, rather than an al Qaeda attack because of the size of the devices."

He added: "This happened on Patriots' Day, it is also the day Americans are supposed to have their taxes in, and Boston is quite a symbolic city. These are all little indicators."

Professor Greg Barton from Monash University's Centre for Islam and the Modern World said there were "two big possibilities" of who was behind the attacks.

"There's been at least 50 attempted terror plots since 9/11 in the US, almost all of them have been jihadi groups, but the fact that no-one’s claiming responsibility for this attack, which took place on Patriots' Day - the day that marks the beginning of the American revolution in Boston - and the nature of the device means that the possibility of a home-grown group, somebody like Timothy McVeigh the Oklahoma City bomber who also detonated on Patriots' Day in April 1995, is a strong possibility," he told 3AW Radio in Melbourne.

Prof Barton said the bombs were "essentially homemade grenades".

"The pressure vessels to contain the gases from the explosion make it as intense as possible," he said.

"Then it forms part of the shrapnel, along with the nails and the ball bearings."

Prof Barton said someone with military training, a jihadi group, or a right-wing extremist group could make the bombs.

"There's plenty of instruction manuals online unfortunately and if somebody has some technical confidence, this is not that hard to do," he said.

His comments came after US supercop Bill Bratton, a former head of Boston police who is now based in London, warned there are "no shortage of potential suspects" behind the explosions.

Barrett, who is also a former member of a UN task force for promoting global counter-terrorism strategy, said behind the scenes a "very intense" investigation will be unfolding.

"In addition, security arrangements for other events will be quickly reviewed," he said.

"There is Margaret Thatcher's funeral tomorrow and the London Marathon on Sunday. However, there are thousands of these events coming up all the time."

Barrett said the number of right-wing extremist incidents in the US since the September 11 attacks was quite high.

From 2002 to 2007, nine right-wing extremists were indicted for their roles in politically motivated murders.

But between 2008 and 2012, the number mushroomed to 53, according to figures by the New America Foundation.

Before this period, domestic terrorist Eric Rudolph attacked a number of sites including the Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta in the name of an anti-abortion and anti-gay agenda.

And in 1995, Timothy McVeigh detonated a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and injuring more than 800.

Barrett said al-Qaeda attacks normally involve terrorists who have trained using instructions from the internet or at a training camp, which usually helps identify them.

In contrast, domestic terrorists operate in isolation or through a small number of acquaintances and often have smaller targets in mind.

"That's why many al-Qaeda terrorists have been thwarted - they're too ambitious," he said.

www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/expert-blames-right-wing-terrorists/story-fnd134gw-1226622108987

Whoever it was, lets just hope they catch him/them soon.

[geopol]

Sooooo it was a Republican.......perhaps we should have known all along.....Perhaps we do not even need an investigation...

[garfield]

Coupla people here trying to outdo Jones in the fuckin idiotic wanker stakes, good work slarti and geo

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Jones ...Hadley...et al 2GB is right up your alley Garf...the dumbarsed demographic...to be sure..

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Typically Farti posts an "expert's" opinion piece that "right-wing terrorists" are to blame for the Boston bombing.

Yet we had our own expert in global security and counter-terrorism right here in Australia, senior visiting fellow at Griffith University, Professor Joseph Siracusa. I wanted to post this yesterday but had no time.

Maybe Alan Jones was influenced by the Professor's expert opinions.


_{Professor Joseph Siracusa specialises in American politics and global security and is internationally known for his writings on nuclear history, international diplomacy, and presidential politics.}



For three years, Professor Siracusa served as senior visiting fellow in the Key Centre for Ethics, Law, Justice and Governance, Griffith University where he specialized in counter-terrorism.

TT: Joe, your background is global security you've also lived in Boston, based on the evidence so far who do you think is responsible for the attack?

"I reckon it's somebody who's been there a while if it's someone from overseas, probably on a student visa for a year or two, but it's somebody that felt comfortable enough to slip into the patriot day marathon and slip out again."

"I do believe they have foreign roots they have foreign grievances."

TT: So you don't put this into the category of home grown domestic terrorism?

"It may be domestic terrorism in the sense that this person may have been in America for a couple of years or may be a second generation fellow from the middle east or something like that, the right wing militias that I've looked at they're bent but they're patriotic, these guys are just bent with a political message. I don't think the right wing was in on this."

TT: What are the specific elements or indicators for you that point to that conclusion?

"The right wing militias normally target a building like the morrow building in Oklahoma city they go after a target that symbolises something but as I say Boston didn't have they wouldn't have gone after people on the sidewalk."

TT: So you think that's what distinguishes this from an attack like Oklahoma, Atlanta, the Unabomber, or the anthrax attacks, all the perpetrators being American and all of them being right wing extremists?

"The fact that they didn't target a major building that had the federal government all over it I mean that's the message they want to deliver to Washington."

TT: Is it a concern that we're seeing now the emergence of these lone-wolf terrorism groups or individuals in operation?

"Yeah I think it is not only has it branched out it's gotten really private."

TT: What about the significance of the timing patriot's day that's been referred to a lot so far?

"I would discount that, if the guy wanted to make damage on the day he'd have gone to Fenway park earlier in the day when the Boston Redsox were playing baseball, could have killed 20 thousand people."

Let's take a look at this the bombs have been assembled inside a pressure cooker, two pressure cookers from what we understand, with instructions based on something from the internet, now this is really crude but obviously very effective?

"Yes it is McVeigh used nitrate, nitrates and fertiliser, he packed 500 pounds of it in a car which blew the Marlow building up, these people used stuff you could find at Walmart."

TT: How do we prevent that? How does the CIA the FBI or any authorities get on top of that?

"There isn't much you could do about it except apply hyper vigilance in these places and for goodness sakes you don't have garbage bins on the sidewalk, especially in front of a large event with thousands and thousands of people. This gives them the perfect hiding place, I think the police fell down a little bit on this one but America has been perhaps lulled into a false peace, for the last 10 years we haven't had a terror attack."

TT: So what is the main significance of Barack Obama's response to this?

"He's made it a domestic response to what might be have international roots so he's gonna play it completely differently and that's why the man was elected to bring a little common sense to the oval office."



Spot on Professor! Makes Farti's "expert" look like a wanker.

[pim]

What a guy!

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Gee here's another wanker come out of the woodwork.

[pim]

Who? Alan Jones?

[slartibartfast]

See #15, Pim.

[pim]

Stellar?!? Ohh I dunno, she's no worse or better than a lot of people one encounters in the workplace. At least she's more literate than most and much can be forgiven of people who know how to spell and put words together in a coherent way.

I'm not even sure that "wanker" fits as a description for Jonesy. I mean, look again at the pic of him in today's smh:





"Wanker" doesn't spring immediately to mind. "Maniac", perhaps ...

Right now I'm at my daughter's place, being "Gwandad" to my 18 month old grand daughter. I sure wouldn't show her that photograph!!

[slartibartfast]

As long as Stellar and Flogg love him, Jonesy'll be happy.

That's his audience.

[chequeredflaggg]

Apr 20, 2013 7:54:43 GMT 10 Stellar said:

Typically Farti posts an "expert's" opinion piece that "right-wing terrorists" are to blame for the Boston bombing.

Yet we had our own expert in global security and counter-terrorism right here in Australia, senior visiting fellow at Griffith University, Professor Joseph Siracusa. I wanted to post this yesterday but had no time.

Maybe Alan Jones was influenced by the Professor's expert opinions.


_{Professor Joseph Siracusa specialises in American politics and global security and is internationally known for his writings on nuclear history, international diplomacy, and presidential politics.}



For three years, Professor Siracusa served as senior visiting fellow in the Key Centre for Ethics, Law, Justice and Governance, Griffith University where he specialized in counter-terrorism.

TT: Joe, your background is global security you've also lived in Boston, based on the evidence so far who do you think is responsible for the attack?

"I reckon it's somebody who's been there a while if it's someone from overseas, probably on a student visa for a year or two, but it's somebody that felt comfortable enough to slip into the patriot day marathon and slip out again."

"I do believe they have foreign roots they have foreign grievances."

TT: So you don't put this into the category of home grown domestic terrorism?

"It may be domestic terrorism in the sense that this person may have been in America for a couple of years or may be a second generation fellow from the middle east or something like that, the right wing militias that I've looked at they're bent but they're patriotic, these guys are just bent with a political message. I don't think the right wing was in on this."

TT: What are the specific elements or indicators for you that point to that conclusion?

"The right wing militias normally target a building like the morrow building in Oklahoma city they go after a target that symbolises something but as I say Boston didn't have they wouldn't have gone after people on the sidewalk."

TT: So you think that's what distinguishes this from an attack like Oklahoma, Atlanta, the Unabomber, or the anthrax attacks, all the perpetrators being American and all of them being right wing extremists?

"The fact that they didn't target a major building that had the federal government all over it I mean that's the message they want to deliver to Washington."

TT: Is it a concern that we're seeing now the emergence of these lone-wolf terrorism groups or individuals in operation?

"Yeah I think it is not only has it branched out it's gotten really private."

TT: What about the significance of the timing patriot's day that's been referred to a lot so far?

"I would discount that, if the guy wanted to make damage on the day he'd have gone to Fenway park earlier in the day when the Boston Redsox were playing baseball, could have killed 20 thousand people."

Let's take a look at this the bombs have been assembled inside a pressure cooker, two pressure cookers from what we understand, with instructions based on something from the internet, now this is really crude but obviously very effective?

"Yes it is McVeigh used nitrate, nitrates and fertiliser, he packed 500 pounds of it in a car which blew the Marlow building up, these people used stuff you could find at Walmart."

TT: How do we prevent that? How does the CIA the FBI or any authorities get on top of that?

"There isn't much you could do about it except apply hyper vigilance in these places and for goodness sakes you don't have garbage bins on the sidewalk, especially in front of a large event with thousands and thousands of people. This gives them the perfect hiding place, I think the police fell down a little bit on this one but America has been perhaps lulled into a false peace, for the last 10 years we haven't had a terror attack."

TT: So what is the main significance of Barack Obama's response to this?

"He's made it a domestic response to what might be have international roots so he's gonna play it completely differently and that's why the man was elected to bring a little common sense to the oval office."



Spot on Professor! Makes Farti's "expert" look like a wanker.

yep, nailed it all up with a bowtie.

So what if Jones said they could be Left-wing Occutards or soemthing...wasnt the only one to suggest that possibility,
and he's
NO MORE WRONG THAN THE RICHO/SLARTI/PHIL IDIOTS HERE WHO RAN IN , --AGAIN-- ON CUE--WAFFLING ABOUT SKINHEAD MILITIAMEN ETC.

[slartibartfast]

Your medication's not working too well, is it?

[slartibartfast]

No-one did, just his meds playing tricks with his mind.

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Apr 20, 2013 15:49:45 GMT 10 slartibartfast said:

No-one did, just his meds playing tricks with his mind.

Paranoia and medication will do that.