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Post by jody on Apr 7, 2013 11:01:55 GMT 10
What a lowlife scumbag and ANYONE who says this is okay is just as low as this vile man. Robert Borsak is an Australian voluntary conservation hunter, recreational hunter and shooter and is now an elected MP of the Shooters and Fishers Party." Attachments:
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Post by geopol on Apr 7, 2013 11:12:17 GMT 10
They control the Libs and O'Farrell will give them what they want...
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Post by jody on Apr 7, 2013 11:24:57 GMT 10
Apparently he spent 20k to kill this elephant......pricks who support this are saying he is a hero because a village got to eat the elephant. Why not just give them the 20K, that would feed them a hell of a lot longer!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2013 15:31:57 GMT 10
You can bet the tusks are on their way to some black market racketeer. Totally vile, like Katter's son-in-law. (and Katter Snr. too, for that matter)
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 7, 2013 16:01:54 GMT 10
That's the extreme right-wing for you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2013 16:01:54 GMT 10
O'Farrall needs his head read in catering to these people....as with anyone who votes for the conservatives ...they need their heads read.
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Post by geopol on Apr 7, 2013 17:14:11 GMT 10
I certainly admire your views on the Liberals!
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Post by caskur on Apr 8, 2013 9:17:27 GMT 10
There is killing if you have to and then there is killing because you love it...
anyone who LOVES killing is sick in the head!
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Post by bender on Apr 9, 2013 0:54:10 GMT 10
I'm going to take a slightly contrary view here.
Whilst I don't personally agree with hunting in general and trophy hunting in particular, big game hunting in the African Countries that license it is the biggest contributing factor towards conservation not just of animals but of the land they need to survive on. The hunter will pay tens of thousands of dollars in licence fees to kill that elephant, and thousands more in accommodation and other components of his stay. The holder of the hunting concession has a vested interest in keeping animal stocks (which include most of the endangered species on the continent) high, taking care of the land he controls to sustain his stocks, and keeping poachers out to protect his stocks.
And lastly, the rules for trophy hunting are fairly rigid in as much as the taking of females is generally prohibited and the guide will try and direct the hunter towards an older male who (harsh as it sounds) has already done his job for his species by sharing his DNA.
Grim because the elephant was presumably shot under the licence system the ivory is then legalised and will be stamped as such. Because with elephants the ivory is generally the trophy I doubt the hunter would be keen on trying to smuggle it out, besides, given the amount of money he's already spent to take the elephant I doubt he'd recoup enough from the sale of the ivory to turn a profit.
That being said. I don't think anyone should shoot elephants. They are one of just a few species whose intelligence in several areas approaches that of humans. They display emotional responses to events that equate to our own and they are capable of sending messages for dozens of kilometres through the earth itself (using low frequency sound waves) and the soles of their feet are sensitive enough to act as ears.
Plus they allegedly never forget....
The sad truth is that as long as a significant percentage of the people who go to African wildlife areas for a holiday do so in order to hunt, kill and eat or collect a trophy of something rather then just see it (and maybe take a happy snap or two) then the continued existence of the animals like elephants, lions etc will be dependant on the revenue and habitat that hunting provides.
Nobody is ever going to pay $50,000 + just to grab a photo of an elephant.
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Post by caskur on Apr 9, 2013 5:24:24 GMT 10
That is actually very old news Bender and completely out dated. That worked for a time. Now they're endangered... they're going to disappear.... they killed 42 (or 46) thousand elephants last year!... that is a lot of elephants, son..
The point about this man is that he's a killer. ... He LOVES to kill.
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Post by jody on Apr 11, 2013 19:05:28 GMT 10
Anyone who can kill an Elephant is beyond contempt.
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Post by bender on Apr 11, 2013 19:28:17 GMT 10
What about the conservationists who are forced to cull entire herds in some parts of Africa to protect habitat and the species as a whole.
They kill the entire herd because they discovered that to leave survivors was only resulting in herds which became entirely disfunctional and elephant behaviour became eratic to the point at which they started to pose significant risks to other species along with humans.
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Post by caskur on Apr 11, 2013 23:10:01 GMT 10
What about the conservationists who are forced to cull entire herds in some parts of Africa to protect habitat and the species as a whole. They kill the entire herd because they discovered that to leave survivors was only resulting in herds which became entirely disfunctional and elephant behaviour became eratic to the point at which they started to pose significant risks to other species along with humans. Yeah well... Africa have to sort out their environment issues.. and they cannot.... either can we in Australia.
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