This is outrageous!!

[bender]

Caskur, when a client is hospitalised we stay with them in the hospital due to the fact that they are still considered to be in detention. You're never afraid to look like an idiot are you?

[caskur]

Mar 29, 2013 22:12:48 GMT 10 bender said:

Caskur, when a client is hospitalised we stay with them in the hospital due to the fact that they are still considered to be in detention. You're never afraid to look like an idiot are you?

never.

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Mar 29, 2013 16:09:32 GMT 10 bender said:

Stellar, you work in an aged care facility don't you?

No ... I DO NOT work in an aged care facility!! I did work in a nursing home at one stage several years ago and it had a profound effect on me - and you can be assured I will NEVER work in that environment ever again!

To try and claim that every hospital in the country is in dire straits is pretty silly. In the last 2 and a half years I've spent considerable amounts of time in hospitals right around the country and whilst I wouldn't for a moment presume to know the ins and outs of their budgets I do feel fairly confident that you've exagerated the situation that hospitals find themselves in to a ludicrous degree.

It doesn't matter what dept the money is coming from, ultimately it all comes from the taxpayers. Now I've worked in hospitals and let me assure you that hospitals only function solely on the goodwill of nurses! Nurses who are in very short supply these days because of the low pay and long unsocial hours and the ever increasing workloads. That's why we have so many nurses working here on 457 visas. But if you think nurses who trained in 2nd or 3rd world facilities is a good thing for our hospitals you'd be sadly deluded. I can catalogue a litany of serious errors made by 457 nurses that I witnessed while working with them at the time!

All hospitals are seriously underfunded that is why we have so many organisations actively working to raise funds to buy essential hospital equipment. Thank god for clubs like Rotary!

But to state that you have spent a considerable amount of time in hospitals over the past couple of years guarding detainees and that gives you the right to declare that I am exaggerating just shows how audaciously ignorant you are! You of course in your infinite wisdom would know so much more about the state of our hospitals than the AMA and those who work in them!

I might add one other point here Stellar. Blaming asylum seekers for hospitals being in bad financial situation is a fairly ignorant claim to make. Asylum Seekers by virtue of the fact that they don't have a Visa or Resident Status at the time they are allegedly undergoing the treatments that you claim are sending hospitals broke are not getting their treatment gratis from the various State Health Departments.

Their treatment is charged to and paid in full by DIAC. In effect Stellar, Asylum Seekers are helping the financial position of hospitals by bringing in extra cash that the hospitals would otherwise not have had.

Unbelievable!! Where do you think DIAC gets their money from. And how much did the asylum seeker budget blow out last year??

And quite obviously you don't consider they are taking up a bed that some Australian may be on a waiting list for??

Rather than comment on things you have no knowledge of, you'd be better off just sticking to your asylum seeker/refugee advocate duties.

And you wonder why I think you're stupid.......

Believe me, you're the stupid one here Bender ... and with an ego to match!

[geopol]

What do =your work in Stella.....It intrigues me only because you are so stridently nasty and apparently very unhappy with the world. I suspect it must be a prison for those who have committed the worst of crimes, those who have severe intellectual and mental problems and those who did not have a severe 1950s upbringing.

[caskur]

Since Australians have been paying for medicare for decades, they are the ones who should top the list and refugees should go to the bottom of the list... its that bloody simple!...

[bender]

But to state that you have spent a considerable amount of time in hospitals over the past couple of years guarding detainees and that gives you the right to declare that I am exaggerating just shows how audaciously ignorant you are! You of course in your infinite wisdom would know so much more about the state of our hospitals than the AMA and those who work in.

Hang on just a second there Stellar. You claimed that our hospitals were becoming third world institutions.

I've checked with the AMA and they haven't said that. You did.

So yes, you are exaggerating.

And more then a little wildly at that....

[caskur]

Mar 31, 2013 1:20:05 GMT 10 bender said:

But to state that you have spent a considerable amount of time in hospitals over the past couple of years guarding detainees and that gives you the right to declare that I am exaggerating just shows how audaciously ignorant you are! You of course in your infinite wisdom would know so much more about the state of our hospitals than the AMA and those who work in.

Hang on just a second there Stellar. You claimed that our hospitals were becoming third world institutions.

I've checked with the AMA and they haven't said that. You did.

So yes, you are exaggerating.

And more then a little wildly at that....

They are third world... the fact they're contaminated with anti-biotic resistant bacteria proves it.

Don't you ever read the news or listen to the news?

[bender]

Where do you think antibiotic resistant bacteria comes from Caskur. Places where antibiotics are readily available, or places where they aren't?

I guess you and facts still have that restraining order out against each other.......

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Mar 31, 2013 1:20:05 GMT 10 bender said:

But to state that you have spent a considerable amount of time in hospitals over the past couple of years guarding detainees and that gives you the right to declare that I am exaggerating just shows how audaciously ignorant you are! You of course in your infinite wisdom would know so much more about the state of our hospitals than the AMA and those who work in.

Hang on just a second there Stellar. You claimed that our hospitals were becoming third world institutions.

I've checked with the AMA and they haven't said that. You did.

So yes, you are exaggerating.

And more then a little wildly at that....

I'll take those facetious remarks with a grain of salt. Remember I did say becoming third world. We haven't quite got there .... yet.

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Mar 30, 2013 9:47:21 GMT 10 geopol said:

What do =your work in Stella.....It intrigues me only because you are so stridently nasty and apparently very unhappy with the world. I suspect it must be a prison for those who have committed the worst of crimes, those who have severe intellectual and mental problems and those who did not have a severe 1950s upbringing.

Kindly do not presume to comment on my state of happiness, wellbeing and resilience. I spend most of my day exuding happiness. Any pleasant conversations will be always be with friends and family ... inmates even.

But this pleasantness does not always extend to NTB. NTB is a place to rant and let off steam from all that affable and good natured niceness. To include loony lefties in any pleasantness would be, quite obviously, terribly exhausting.

[geopol]

You must be exhausted anyway given all the pent up fury that you exude with your ubiquitous expression of hatred.