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Post by matt on Mar 5, 2013 13:07:00 GMT 10
Capital Punishment is no solution.
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Post by matt on Mar 5, 2013 13:09:34 GMT 10
What news article are you blabbering about?
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Post by matt on Mar 5, 2013 13:10:18 GMT 10
Buzz has an unhealthy obsession with Jill!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 13:28:21 GMT 10
What news article are you blabbering about? The case is before the courts currently in Melbourne. As you know, we are NOT permitted to discuss the details of the case on this website. This is an American website. And I am in New Zealand.
So who cares what some Aussie court permits or doesn't permit.
Be brave....post a link.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 13:33:26 GMT 10
When I physically am in Australia, I obey Australian laws.
When I am NOT physically in Australia, I couldn't give a toss about Australian laws.
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Post by caskur on Mar 5, 2013 14:01:24 GMT 10
Capital Punishment is no solution. Yes it is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 14:18:40 GMT 10
Now I wonder why Earl Gray chucked all his toys out of the cot (this thread) and deleted everything he had posted?
Obviously he realised he was posting SHIT when I posted a link to a news story published online by a MAINSTREAM Aussie newspaper, The Age and felt so embarrassed about making a dork of himself that he decided to pretend he hadn't posted anything in this thread.
Dear, oh dear....what a DRAMA QUEEN!
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Post by jody on Mar 5, 2013 14:20:23 GMT 10
No links please.
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Post by matt on Mar 5, 2013 15:12:46 GMT 10
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Post by matt on Mar 5, 2013 15:18:37 GMT 10
It is so wonderful to see two leftists fighting.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 19:54:34 GMT 10
This is an American website. And I am in New Zealand.
So who cares what some Aussie court permits or doesn't permit.
Be brave....post a link. This site is accessible in Australia, and particularly Victoria, that means publishing Sub Judice material is enough to get, at the very least this thread or board shut down. Not even your thick enough for that to happen, just so you can have a voyeuristic wank ? oh... hang on...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 19:58:22 GMT 10
After you wrecked the thread, they could become a mechanism for a dismissal of the case due to the thread being cited as prejudicial to the case. You dill. You have to realise, Earl, that KWTJ could not give a stuff if the case was aborted, in fact he would get a kick if he thought that his actions caused the case to be aborted and the mongrel that committed an unspeakable act went free by default.
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Post by garfield on Mar 5, 2013 20:05:34 GMT 10
After you wrecked the thread, they could become a mechanism for a dismissal of the case due to the thread being cited as prejudicial to the case. You dill. You have to realise, Earl, that KWTJ could not give a stuff if the case was aborted, in fact he would get a kick if he thought that his actions caused the case to be aborted and the mongrel that committed an unspeakable act went free by default. In fact kiwi wouldn't even care if he got raped by him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 2:31:03 GMT 10
This is an American website. And I am in New Zealand.
So who cares what some Aussie court permits or doesn't permit.
Be brave....post a link. This site is accessible in Australia, and particularly Victoria, that means publishing Sub Judice material is enough to get, at the very least this thread or board shut down. Not even your thick enough for that to happen, just so you can have a voyeuristic wank ? oh... hang on... What a load of rot!
The story is online on The Age website (mainstream media), including video clips and photographs for all to see.
Go and lay a complaint against The Age publishing a story about something you claim is Sub Judice and see how much of a result you get. Absolutely sweet faark-all I bet. The story will still be parked on The Age website in six months time, a year's time, five year's time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 5:15:59 GMT 10
Some crimes would fit capital punishment.....problem is the judicial system cannot be counted on to get it right all the time, and as in the past innocent people have been killed..
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Post by caskur on Mar 6, 2013 11:41:04 GMT 10
Some crimes would fit capital punishment.....problem is the judicial system cannot be counted on to get it right all the time, and as in the past innocent people have been killed.. that was the past... and not a lot of innocent people were killed... it just seems that way due to them being constantly held up as victims...
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Post by pim on Mar 6, 2013 12:13:33 GMT 10
So "not a lot of innocent people were killed" is OK?
If a couple of innocent people die so that more of the guilty can dance on the end of a rope, or be a jabbed slab of meat on a gurney, or get fried in a chair, or get gassed in a sealed booth, or get a neck job in a guillotine, or get garotted by piano wire, or get their head shaved with a sword after Friday prayers, or get boiled in oil, or burned at the stake, or keel-hauled, or get chucked off the Tarpeian Rock, or get crucified ... that's just a bit of acceptable collateral damage?
And when does "not a lot" become "a lot"?
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Post by caskur on Mar 6, 2013 12:37:07 GMT 10
I'm a death penalty advocate...
the only other sentence I except for ones that should be put to death, "life, never to be released"...
I don't want to discuss this subject due to the nitnuts out there who have more sympathy for death row inmates than the people who were tortured and murdered.
this subject has been thoroughly covered over the years with this group of people here at NTB.
there is an animal in WA who murdered a 32 yr woman and her 3 children... The Greenough Massacre is the title it's been dubbed and archived in Wiki... he only got 20 yrs in my state. He committed the atrocities at the age of 22... so he was to be released at the age of 42... a serial killer in his prime...
The cops who handled the case said he should have been put to death for his acts.
Unless you keep these people contained forever, they eventually are let out to repeat the offenses as the Americans have sorely found out.
So what was OK to think 50 yrs ago ( and becoming all emo over innocent ones being put to death), is no longer fitting the current situation of what really is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 12:48:25 GMT 10
If you're going to have the death penalty, then there have to be two conditions....
1. All executions must be able to be seen by the public. They must be televised on free-to-air television. If the government are going to judicially kill citizens on behalf of other citizens, then those other citizens should be allowed to watch what is being carried out on behalf of them.
2. If it is ever proven that an innocent person has been put to death, then the same eye-for-an-eye and tooth-for-a-tooth principal should apply to those responsible. ie....all investigating police officers, the prosecuting lawyers, the judge and the jury involved should be subject to a mandatory death penalty carried out on them. That would really focus their minds on absolutely getting it right and not killing an innocent person at pain of suffering the same fate themselves.
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Post by caskur on Mar 6, 2013 12:53:25 GMT 10
oh crikey....
let's kill all the armies.
how about you post up the numbers to all murderers who were let lose to re-murder...
the bloke in the USA who raped and murdered two kids, and was jailed both times... only to be let out and murder 14 hookers before he was caught again...
get lost with all that BS about innocent people being put to death... it BS.
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Post by pim on Mar 6, 2013 13:01:52 GMT 10
Caskur I agree with you that a debate about the death penalty is fruitless and pointless. Mind you, we mostly have fruitless and pointless debates on any topic here on NTB so what else is new?
Personally I think that if you're going to have the death penalty as you advocate then it shouldn't be sanitised but should be made a spectacle of on prime time TV. The hell with namby pamby shows like 60 Minutes with their lefty journalists! Instead, have a spectacle called The Wages of Sin in that time slot. Set up a guillotine in the TV studio, with a TV audience! As a special touch they could include women sitting around the base of the guillotine knitting - there you are, Caskur!! I nominate you as Knitter-in-Chief. We could change your name to Madame Defarge! All with full corporate sponsorship, of course! Throw it open to the private sector! Garfield would love it! Or he should, if he's the free market liberal he claims he is! In fact Garfield should present the show! Here's the gig, Garfield: don't wear a suit that's too sober, you need something bright - we don't want you looking like an undertaker, kinda more like the Joker! You introduce each condemned prisoner as they are led to the guillotine. Introduce as much hype as you like - music, sound effects, drum rolls, special lighting .. and don't forget the set decor. I'm sure you'd know what would be needed. I'd go for flamboyance! And as a special touch, you Garfield get to interview the prisoner before he gets the chop, and deliver the moral homily. Not Fat! Poor Fat wouldn't get it. He'd take Christianity too seriously. All that lefty stuff in 1 corinthians 13. It just wouldn't do! This would be about vengeance with enough gore to make it a spectacle. I tellsya it would smash all the TV ratings records.
It's either that or no death penalty I'm afraid!
But whatever you say, or I say, or whatever crackpot views we express on forums like this about the death penalty, if you vote for Tony Abbott's Liberals in September, or Barnett's Liberals in WA this Saturday, don't do so thinking that they'll bring back capital punishment 'coz you're bound to be very disappointed.
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Post by caskur on Mar 6, 2013 13:07:28 GMT 10
I'm a BEAUTIFUL KNITTER as well... flawless actually.
I know the death penalty will not be resumed... however, they better start including, "Life, never to be released."
I'm not voting... there isn't anyone to vote for.
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Post by pim on Mar 6, 2013 13:24:46 GMT 10
oops!
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Post by caskur on Mar 6, 2013 13:28:35 GMT 10
lead in the bottom of a tied flour sack tossed in the ocean would be kinder... shark bait... chopping heads off is far, far, too messy... why should someone have to clean up their blood when WA's White Pointer Brutus can do a better job?
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Post by pim on Mar 6, 2013 13:46:29 GMT 10
Hmmm ... a bit of gore makes for a good spectacle. Apparently they put a nappy on a condemned prisoner before the execution 'coz when ya die your muscles go limp and you evacuate yourself. So it isn't just blood that flows ...
It's the ghoulish aspect that was supposed to convey the moral message in days of yore. You approached the outskirts of a town and the first thing you saw was bodies left to rot on the gallows where they'd been left hanging.
Stipendium peccavi mors est is the moral lesson - the wages of sin is death. They took it seriously!
I wouldn't sanitise it too much. Kinda defeats the purpose! Back in the days when they were into drawing & quartering after hanging some poor reprobate they definitely believed that gore was an essential ingredient.
We could have all of that on the TV show, with the advantage that the mums & dads at home could rest secure in the knowledge that the kiddies wouldn't be exposed to the smell ...
Mind you I think the point o it all was spectacle rather than morals ...
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