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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 9:25:03 GMT 10
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Post by pim on Feb 13, 2013 10:14:58 GMT 10
Yet another c & p from KTJ that is all about the Cheap Shot and offers no insight or understanding.
1. Nobody knows yet why the Pope has decided to retire. I think it's magnificent that he announced it in Latin and that an Italian journalist scooped the world because she was the only scribbler among the army of scribblers who cover the goings-on in the Vatican who had the classical education that gave her the grasp of Latin so that she could understand what the Pope was actually saying. Why not take him on face value and accept that at age 86 (or however old he is) he's a frail old man with a pacemaker. The issue that has marked his Pontificate has been that of the sexual abuse of children by Catholic clergy. It's been unmasked in all its hideousness and it's been on his watch. I argue that the fact that paedophilia within the Catholic Church, and the cover ups, has reached right up into the Vatican and has touched the Pope himself. To preside over a Church that stands exposed as a global paedophile conspiracy plunges the Catholic Church into the most profound spiritual crisis since the Reformation. The stress that this would place on the leader of this outfit would be taxing for a man who was 20 years younger. No wonder he's retiring. It's said that this is the first time since the Middle Ages that a Pope has retired instead of soldiering on until he carks it. In response I can only say that only a couple of generations ago life expectancy was a lot shorter. People died earlier. I think it's a good thing that the Pope is retiring to see out the rest of his days in prayer.
2. As for the linking it to the Queen and her obduracy regarding retirement: of course, all things being equal, she should retire. But all things aren't equal. The problem that ignoramuses like KTJ have stems from the fact that they live in a country that hardly has any history so they don't understand the importance of history. The circumstances in which the Queen's father came to the throne were such that the Queen was always going to have "duty" and "service" drilled into her. The Abdication Crisis of 1936 caused a profound constitutional crisis in Britain, the extent of which I could imagine would be difficult for an ignoramus like KTJ to understand. The Queen is loved and revered today precisely because of the virtues and qualities that block her from retiring. I'm not going to deny that I have a high regard for the Queen. I think she's a grand old lady and when she goes a lot will go with her. The mould that shaped her has been broken and they don't make people like her anymore. What you need to understand is that the British Monarch doesn't "retire". She doesn't "own" her Crown in the way the Pope "owns" the Papacy. The Pope is the planet's last medieval monarch. The Queen on the other hand is a constitutional monarch and her Crown is "owned" by Parliament. She can only retire if Parliament passes a special law allowing her to retire. Give her a break.
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Post by pim on Feb 13, 2013 10:21:07 GMT 10
Aut insanit homo, aut versus facit
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Post by jody on Feb 13, 2013 10:29:56 GMT 10
Well said Pim !!
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Post by jody on Feb 13, 2013 10:42:14 GMT 10
Buzz I have no idea what the latin says....I was refering to what Pim said about our dear queen  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 10:54:27 GMT 10
Yet another c & p from KTJ that is all about the Cheap Shot and offers no insight or understanding.
That cartoon was published on the editorial page of today's New Zealand Herald. I was sitting in the cab of a locomotive coupled onto the head of a passenger train at Wellington Railway Station waiting for the TXO to complete the brake-test & examination of the train and enjoying a cup of coffee when I opened the newspaper to the editorial page and saw that cartoon. I just about spilled my coffee due to laughing so much. And I wasn't the only person who found that cartoon hilariously funny.
Jeeezus.....do you have to always be so bloody serious, Pim? Don't you know how to have a laugh and see the humerous side of life? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 11:06:21 GMT 10
Cartoon made me chuckle....if anything perhaps should have been presented in the chit chat zone..
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Post by pim on Feb 13, 2013 11:06:51 GMT 10
<sigh> KTJ ... absentem laedit cum ebrio qui litigat  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 18:48:18 GMT 10
Obita dictum
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Post by caskur on Feb 13, 2013 20:38:03 GMT 10
Quite clever but the Queen is head of the Church of England so she's their Pope and from what I hear, doesn't have a pacemaker and still stands fairly straight...doesn't have Alzheimers.... and most of all, her Corgies need her. She also pledged to reign until death and if longevity in families mean anything, she's got another 14-15 yrs to go, yet. The Queen has a bad back. But she is also supported by a fairly large healthy looking family. I predict she has a good decade in her at least. Anyway, if she does retire to become the King's Mum... that will be cool too. A Queen that has never taken a step out of place... what a wonderful legacy that is! Long live our Queen! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2013 13:38:32 GMT 10
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