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Post by matt on Feb 10, 2013 23:06:17 GMT 10
Today I was having fish and chips with an old friend from my LDS (Mormon) Church days, and I took the opportunity to discuss the Lord with him.
I was truly concerned that he was beyond redemption, but I had to remember that no one is beyond redemption and that I must persevere, because to give up would mean my friend having an eternity in hell, totally disconnected from God.
I was making progress until his phone rang and he had to go.
As I was walking home I had a vision of the battle that is going on for hearts, minds and spirits. Satan is the father of all sins, he is the ultimate liar. Jesus is the personification of pure love and He wants us to be with him.
I am going to confront my friend next Sunday, because to not confront him is for me to hate him. I love him, I want him to have eternal life, not eternal damnation.
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Post by matt on Feb 10, 2013 23:16:46 GMT 10
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Post by jody on Feb 11, 2013 0:07:06 GMT 10
Matt you almost sound like an AMWAY salesman.
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Post by matt on Feb 11, 2013 1:08:17 GMT 10
It isn't a sales pitch, it is a friend pleading with another friend that they accept life, not death. The Bible says to love thy neighbour as thy self. If a person truly loves their neighbour, they will confront them about the pathway to darkness that they are walking.
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Post by jody on Feb 11, 2013 1:44:38 GMT 10
Share is different to force.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 7:42:25 GMT 10
Today I was having fish and chips with an old friend from my LDS (Mormon) Church days, and I took the opportunity to discuss the Lord with him. I was truly concerned that he was beyond redemption, but I had to remember that no one is beyond redemption and that I must persevere, because to give up would mean my friend having an eternity in hell, totally disconnected from God. I was making progress until his phone rang and he had to go. As I was walking home I had a vision of the battle that is going on for hearts, minds and spirits. Satan is the father of all sins, he is the ultimate liar. Jesus is the personification of pure love and He wants us to be with him. I am going to confront my friend next Sunday, because to not confront him is for me to hate him. I love him, I want him to have eternal life, not eternal damnation. So to sum up....two religious nutters, both of whom believe in imaginary delusional clap-trap, but they each believe in DIFFERENT delusional clap-trap except that one of the nutters used to believe in the same delusional clap-trap as the other religious nutter, but now believes in a different brand of delusional clap-trap from the delusional clap-trap he used to believe in, so is now trying to convert the believer of one type of delusional clap-trap to the other type of delusional clap-trap.
Where are the men with the white coats and straight-jackets (and the key to the rubber room) when you need them?
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Post by matt on Feb 11, 2013 19:10:58 GMT 10
Today I was having fish and chips with an old friend from my LDS (Mormon) Church days, and I took the opportunity to discuss the Lord with him. I was truly concerned that he was beyond redemption, but I had to remember that no one is beyond redemption and that I must persevere, because to give up would mean my friend having an eternity in hell, totally disconnected from God. I was making progress until his phone rang and he had to go. As I was walking home I had a vision of the battle that is going on for hearts, minds and spirits. Satan is the father of all sins, he is the ultimate liar. Jesus is the personification of pure love and He wants us to be with him. I am going to confront my friend next Sunday, because to not confront him is for me to hate him. I love him, I want him to have eternal life, not eternal damnation. So to sum up....two religious nutters, both of whom believe in imaginary delusional clap-trap, but they each believe in DIFFERENT delusional clap-trap except that one of the nutters used to believe in the same delusional clap-trap as the other religious nutter, but now believes in a different brand of delusional clap-trap from the delusional clap-trap he used to believe in, so is now trying to convert the believer of one type of delusional clap-trap to the other type of delusional clap-trap.
Where are the men with the white coats and straight-jackets (and the key to the rubber room) when you need them? I feel sorry for you that you are yet to have a spiritual moment where the Lord speaks to you. You need to realise that the Lord speaks to the heart, not to the ears. You need to soften your heart, be humble and allow the Spirit in.
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Post by garfield on Feb 11, 2013 19:32:57 GMT 10
Jesus saves and kiwi knob throttler both have their own cross to bare, jesus freak believes in imaginary bible gods and kiwi believes in imaginary climate gods, whats the difference between the two?, not much, they really do have so much more in common than they'd like to admit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 20:09:10 GMT 10
I feel sorry for you that you are yet to have a spiritual moment where the Lord speaks to you. You need to realise that the Lord speaks to the heart, not to the ears. You need to soften your heart, be humble and allow the Spirit in. The heart cannot hear because it doesn't have ears.
The heart is merely a blood pump, nothing more, nothing less.
Are you capable of comprehending that simple scientific fact?
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Post by pim on Feb 11, 2013 20:49:58 GMT 10
KTJ that is an exceedingly boring response to Matt's saccharine-sweet lollipop theology. You and he have more in common that either of you is prepared to admit.
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Post by fat on Feb 12, 2013 10:06:50 GMT 10
Matt - JWs view every teaching of the mainstream church as apostate and contaminated by Satan. I am worried your full on approach will reinforce these views.
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Post by jody on Feb 12, 2013 17:37:12 GMT 10
Very true Fat.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 17:53:24 GMT 10
Today I was having fish and chips with an old friend from my LDS (Mormon) Church days, and I took the opportunity to discuss the Lord with him. I was truly concerned that he was beyond redemption, but I had to remember that no one is beyond redemption and that I must persevere, because to give up would mean my friend having an eternity in hell, totally disconnected from God. I was making progress until his phone rang and he had to go. As I was walking home I had a vision of the battle that is going on for hearts, minds and spirits. Satan is the father of all sins, he is the ultimate liar. Jesus is the personification of pure love and He wants us to be with him. I am going to confront my friend next Sunday, because to not confront him is for me to hate him. I love him, I want him to have eternal life, not eternal damnation. Thats some powerful LSD you're taking there Jesus, can you spare any ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 18:37:03 GMT 10
Oh and Jesus, always remeber Jesus Saves But Moses Invests
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