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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 13:34:10 GMT 10
It will be us and the rest of the West against: a. China b. Islam c. Both I'm in. Who will you fight for - them or us? Fuck me, you actually want a war ? You're a fucking suicidal maniac.
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Post by jody on Feb 10, 2013 15:01:41 GMT 10
There will be some kind of war against Islam....that one is a no brainer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 15:48:19 GMT 10
It will be us and the rest of the West against: a. China b. Islam c. Both I'm in. Are you going to emerge from your fortified bunker (after first fortifying yourself from your HUGE stockpile of baked beans) and challenge the Chinks and the Towelheads to a swordfight?
Or will you be a BRAVE MAN and use your fists?
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Post by garfield on Feb 10, 2013 16:23:24 GMT 10
There will be some kind of war against Islam....that one is a no brainer. They're relatively harmless, unless they get nukes, which the Pakis already have and Irans working on, otherwise they really are a laughing stock as enemies go.
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Post by garfield on Feb 10, 2013 16:24:35 GMT 10
The biggest danger to the west from mussies is sending their social security systems broke LOL ... and they're getting plenty of help to do that from our wonderful left ;D
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Post by bender on Feb 10, 2013 19:26:53 GMT 10
It will be us and the rest of the West against: a. China b. Islam c. Both I'm in. Who will you fight for - them or us? Oh for God's sake, do we have to listen to bloody Pollyanna here bang on with his next big justification for maintaining the Southern Hemisphere's 4th largest strategic baked bean stockpile. What evidence does Buzz have to justify his views? Apart from the fact that a religion called Islam and a country called China actually exist? Well the fact that something exists is pretty much all Buzz needs to fly into loopy flights of imagination. Hey Buzz, can I suggest the next case for you to crack. Area 51, secret Alien base or a piece of Airspace between area's 50 and 52? And when will ET come back to steal our precious resources instead of our hearts
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 19:36:28 GMT 10
the fact is in the trough of every Depression there is always a war we are in a depression right now China and Islam are obviously antagonists so who will you be fighting for? THE SKY IS FUCKING FALLING !!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 19:42:00 GMT 10
the fact is that at the trough of every depression there is a war Australia is not in depression, you dope.
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Post by bender on Feb 10, 2013 19:44:15 GMT 10
Don't fucking encourage him, he'll be starting 20 bloody posts every day about this and what that means is that any half interesting post gets lost in a sea of deranged predictions about the war to come.
It's fairly apparent that Buzz suffers from a combination of obsessive compulsive disorder and bipolar. I'm not having a go at him, I don't consider him crazy or dangerous or unable to manage his own life.
But it makes him do extremely annoying things at times, and he just can't control himself.
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Post by caskur on Feb 10, 2013 19:54:15 GMT 10
It will be us and the rest of the West against: a. China b. Islam c. Both I'm in. Who will you fight for - them or us? f*** me, you actually want a war ? You're a f***ing suicidal maniac. He'll hide in his bunker with his surgical masks!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 20:13:20 GMT 10
Is this really Bubbles ?
You decide:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 20:36:55 GMT 10
its not me and i hope you are on the other side so i can get a chance to do my bit for my country Are you on the dark side of the moon, Bubbles ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 21:05:58 GMT 10
I'm a Jedi and not a Sith, Bubbles.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 21:46:35 GMT 10
did I mention when my daughter came back from NZ the first thing she said? “Jesus H Faaaaaarking Christ....I was expecting to see my Dad and instead all I see is a freak show called BUBBLES!”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 5:38:10 GMT 10
China a Japan are at logger heads over a group of rocky islands rich in oil and gas reserves, the rhetoric has reached a point where Japan is now considering nuke weapons in it's arsenal...and if it does resolve in war then the US is on Japans side....and Australia will suck hole along with the US and Russia with China...so there is a possibilty of war reaching a global conflict...I'm backing the pagans meself...just to be on the safe side.
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Post by sonex on Feb 11, 2013 9:20:01 GMT 10
China a Japan are at logger heads over a group of rocky islands rich in oil and gas reserves, the rhetoric has reached a point where Japan is now considering nuke weapons in it's arsenal...and if it does resolve in war then the US is on Japans side....and Australia will suck hole along with the US and Russia with China...so there is a possibilty of war reaching a global conflict...I'm backing the pagans meself...just to be on the safe side. I don't understand what you are saying in the above post, can you maybe explain your thoughts more clearly?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 12:16:45 GMT 10
Sonex ...it has been in the news, read below article ..google search more to get all the low down on what's happening...The Japanese business suit samuri are saying the events of WW2 and Japans actions have been forgiven or forgotten and are suggetsing that the time is right for Japan to have nuke bombs, given the military conflict with China and the issues China has with its neighbours over borders.
Japan is the US closet allie ...if Japan goes to war with China then the US backs Japan. Common knowledge, what happens if war was to happen between these two Asian nations is a guess, perhaps China invades Taiwan, Nth Korea fires off missiles left right and centre, and given Russia has had military conflict with Japan recently well its going to be on for young and old... include ME tensions.
And Jesus said to his flock...."The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth"...if that all right with you guy's...or something to that effect, what ever the case the blood thirsty confucist, christains, jews, mulsims and illuminatii will annihalate themselves yet the Pagans will be the surviors....and how is not something I can tell you, only Pagans have this knowledge, all what is happening has been written in Pagan prophecy. (Reuters) - China and Japan engaged on Friday in a fresh round of invective over military movements near a disputed group of uninhabited islands, fuelling tension that for months has bedeviled relations between the Asian powers.
An increasingly muscular China has been repeatedly at odds with others in the region over rival claims to small clusters of islands, most recently with fellow economic giant Japan which accused a Chinese navy vessel of locking radar normally used to aim weapons on a Japanese naval ship in the East China Sea.
China's Defence Ministry rejected Japan's complaint about the radar, its first comment on the January 30 incident. It said Japan's intrusive tracking of Chinese vessels was the "root cause" of the renewed tension.
A Japanese official dismissed the Chinese explanation for incident saying China's actions could be dangerous in the waters around the islets, known as Diaoyu in China and Senkaku in Japan, believed to be rich in oil and gas.
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe led his conservative party to a landslide election victory in December, promising to beef up the military and stand tough in territorial disputes.
On Thursday, another border problem was brought into focus when Japan said two Russian fighter jets briefly entered its air space near long-disputed northern islands, prompting Japan to scramble combat fighters. Russia denied the accusation.
The commander of U.S. forces in the Asia-Pacific said the squabble between Japan and China underlined the pressing need for rules to prevent such incidents turning into serious conflict.
"What we need in the South China Sea is a mechanism that prevents us turning our diplomacy over to young majors and young (naval) commanders ... to make decisions at sea that cause a problem (that escalates) into a military conflict that we might not be able to control," Admiral Samuel Locklear told a conference in the Indonesian capital.
China is in dispute with several Southeast Asian countries including the Philippines and Vietnam over parts of the South China Sea, which is potentially rich in natural resources.
Locklear said governments and their leaders had to understand the potential for things to get out of hand.
"In this case, I think that point has been made pretty clear," he said in reference to international reaction to the dispute between China and Japan.
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China's Defence Ministry, in a faxed statement late on Thursday, said Japan's complaints did not "match the facts". The Chinese ship's radar, it said, had maintained regular alerting operations and the ship "did not use fire control radar".
The ministry said the Chinese ship was tracked by a Japanese destroyer during routine training exercises. Fire control radar pinpoints the location of a target for missiles or shells and its use can be considered a step short of actual firing.
Japan, the ministry said, had "made irresponsible remarks that hyped up a so-called China threat, recklessly created tension and misled international public opinion".
"Japanese warships and airplanes have often conducted long periods of close-range tracking and surveillance of China's naval ships and airplanes," the Chinese Defence Ministry said.
"This is the root cause of air and maritime security issues between China and Japan."
In Tokyo, Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga told a news conference Japan could not accept China's explanation and Japan's accusation came after careful analysis.
"We urge China to take sincere measures to prevent dangerous actions which could cause a contingency situation," Suga said.
Japanese Defence Minister Itsunori Onodera said this week that the radar incident could have become very dangerous very quickly, and it could have been seen as a threat of military force under U.N. rules.
Hopes had been rising recently for an easing of the tension, which was sparked, in part, by Japan's nationalization of three of the privately owned islets last September.
Fears that encounters between aircraft and ships could bring an unintended clash have given impetus to efforts to improve links, including a possible summit between Abe and Chinese leader Xi Jinping, who takes over as head of state in March.
(Additional reporting by Linda Sieg in TOKYO, Joathan Thatcher in JAKARTA; Editing by Ron Popeski and Robert Birsel)
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Post by sonex on Feb 11, 2013 14:27:00 GMT 10
Thanks Spindrift, yes I have been reading about the conflict between China and Japan, the part of your penultimate post I didn't understand completely was.......... "...and if it does resolve in war then the US is on Japans side....and Australia will suck hole along with the US and Russia with China..." Read more: newstalkback1.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=post&thread=1160&page=2#ixzz2KYqiztXJProbably because I'm not sure what "suck hole" actually means, so I'm guessing you are probably saying that we would go to war against China. I can't imagine that we would ever go to war against the USA. Isn't Japan still under the constraints of only being allowed to have a military for defensive purposes? The might of China's military would be a pretty scary prospect.
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Post by pim on Feb 11, 2013 15:02:59 GMT 10
a "suck hole", sonex, is a sycophant. I think that the sort of scenario in this thread - war between China and the US - is the stuff of Australia's worst nightmares because in that scenario we'd be forced to choose between the two and it's the last choice that Australia wants to have to make. The choice is: either side with the US against China or in any dispute in North Asia involving China and the US, to remain neutral. Right now, no country is more important to Australia's economic prosperity than China. This has nothing to do with "Labor vs Liberal". This is bipartisan. Think back to 2003 when Hu Jintao addressed the Australian Parliament. The gravamen of his address was to call on the Australians to stay out of any dispute involving the Taiwan Strait or any other involving Chinese sovereignty - or claims - in North Asia. The message was pretty clear. Now fast forward to 2011 to Obama's address to the Australian Parliament which in many ways was scarier than George Bush's speech to our Parliament in 2003 the day before Hu Jintao's speech. Bush's speech was all about terrorism, but Obama's speech was about China. The Chinese had no issues with Bush's speech about terrorism, but they sure had issues with Obama's speech. And so should we! Because it was in that speech that Obama issued warnings to China and announced US troop deployments on Australian soil. Read Paul Keating's response to that speech www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3633097.htm gives the counter view to received Australian wisdom and it shows to what extent Spindrift's term of abuse "suckhole" could be applied to both the Rudd and Gillard Governments as well as to successive Liberal Governments. It's true that Japan, under the post WW2 arrangements, is restricted to "self-defence forces" but that could change in an instant. I have to go, but the thread hasn't mentioned Indonesia in relation to this scenario. We Australians really are babes in the wood when it comes to Asian geopolitics. Our knowledge base and understanding of the histories, languages and cultures of the part of the world whose destiny we are a part of - whether we like it or not - are abysmal.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 17:59:38 GMT 10
Time being a factor Sonex my first missive was in haste......and Australia will suck hole along with the US and Russia with China..."perhaps a comma after the US may have helped....Essentially it's about what nations align themselves with as allies in the event of war, which Pim outlines more expansively.
The situation with Japan and China could very easily escalate into war, a young hot head on either side letting go a missile at a vessel or aircraft and whammo its on folks...fortunately unlikely as the Asians are not so hotheaded as the Arabs and Jews, which is another threat of war that is most likely as Israeli's expands their borders to a greater Israel.
Christianity along with all monotheist religions are militant religion's and followers are soldiers of god, these believers will go to war.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2013 11:30:37 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2013 13:01:08 GMT 10
Yep North Korea - there is a war commng. All North Korea is doing is joining the “do as I say, not as I do” brigade.
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Post by garfield on Feb 16, 2013 13:04:40 GMT 10
You should move there, I reckon you could really progress in a place like that, mental defectives go a long way in North Korea, especially frothing at the mouth US haters like you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2013 13:09:26 GMT 10
Why don't you move to the US Garflunkle....you can buy a gun cheap and shoot yourself in the foot rather than trying to chew it off for a change.
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