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Post by caskur on Feb 15, 2013 8:53:25 GMT 10
Thats it keep supporting a mass killer.....thats shallow Cascurrie ...very shallow.. no one would be getting killed if there were no rebels.
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Post by chequeredflaggg on Feb 15, 2013 9:12:42 GMT 10
Thats it keep supporting a mass killer.....thats shallow Cascurrie ...very shallow.. Every regime in the Middle-east has mass-killing, with the exception of the only one that loony-lefty fuckheads ever condemn. as for Assad, we know from every chapter of the so-called Arab Spring so far, that all that is going to happen in Syria if Assad is overthrown, is that another bunch of Islamist teapothead fundy fuckheads will replace him, creating even more conflict in the region, and more problems for the West. Meanwhile, unless its own interests are being greatly jeopardised, the US and the rest of us do NOT want any involvement in musso vs Musso fucking conflicts. Why the fuck would we interrupt the enemy when theyre killing each other??? INCLUDING the local "Australian" Lebs who go there and stick their noses in, that hopefully one of Assads MiGs drops a bucket of shyt on the first day.
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Post by pim on Feb 15, 2013 10:11:09 GMT 10
Everyone loves Kevin, he is their man and that bitch Gillard stabbed him and the Australian people in the back. Ya gotta love Matt's sweeping statements. "Everyone" means each and every person. No exceptions, 100% universal. If you start qualifying with exceptions then whatever "it" is, it isn't "everyone". And in Kevin Rudd's case, it certainly is NOT "everyone".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2013 11:20:16 GMT 10
While there are many in the community that feel Kev Rudd was wrongly knifed in the back by Gillard and haven't got over that fact, he will not make a comeback while the corrupt factions are still the power in the Labor party, for while they still exist they would simply undermine him to lose anyway...Labor needs to sweep em out of the party, until that happens Labor has lost my vote..they don't deserve to govern.
Gillard is a Israeli suck....arr ...sycophant and she wouldn't give a toss that mossad is murdering Australians and illegally using Australian passports to kill it's opponents of Zionist ambitions of a greater Israel.
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Post by caskur on Feb 16, 2013 5:38:45 GMT 10
Why should anyone give a fuck for other people's civil wars?
Really, why should they?
Serious question.
You know, I'm all for helping countries in the thick of a natural disaster... no questions asked... but when misery is brought about by their own hands, helping them should be deemed aiding and abetting criminals... and we SHOULD NOT ASSIST THAT!...
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Post by pim on Feb 16, 2013 5:42:41 GMT 10
We jumped right into Vietnam. Big time. That was a civil war.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2013 6:54:53 GMT 10
A serious question deserves a serious answer.
UN investigations have concluded that the Syrian government's human rights abuses are greatest in both gravity and scale, with reports of imprisonment and torture of tens of thousands.
The Syrian war there is no clear winner at this stage though the likely scenario if allowed Assad will win by killing and brutalising the people on a massive scale, thus creating a refugee crises far greater than what already has happened....So which gives the west a moral question as to how to stop the carnage from increasing.
Arm the freedom fighters, which is currently for the most conducted by the Saudis where weapons are falling into the hands of the extremist Jihadist groups, and that will be a problem if they win power, therefore arming the Syrian opposition groups where a democratic process has a greater chance in this war is a logical conclusion.
Or stand back and allow Assad to continue to rule with oppression, killing and torture on a massive scale...that is the moral humanitarian question.
For the greater good choosing sides in any war is difficult.....and mistakes have been made in such dilemma's eg; Iraq, Vietnam, and in this case it is about arming one side, and that is not a military intervention with troops or forces, so that a decisive victory for freedom can be made more quickly than allowing the war to escalate into a situation of further mass killing, and a refugee crisis where no doubt that the West has to take these people in, created by an oppressive regime hanging on to power.
If not for Israel wanting Assad to remain in power, albeit his justifiaction for not introducing democratic freedoms is that Syria is at war with Israel, odd as it may seem, for Israel he is known quantity where he hasn't made any threats of war with Isarel in the last decade or more, and they are concerned with the unknown opposition groups, and hence why the bloodshed is increasing.
Yet the Syrian people themselves have the right to choose their path for a government they want....not what some other nation declares they should have.
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Post by caskur on Feb 16, 2013 8:29:15 GMT 10
We jumped right into Vietnam. Big time. That was a civil war. Ummm no... the Sth Vietnamese ASKED for assistance and received it and 50,000 + Americans died because of it.
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Post by caskur on Feb 16, 2013 8:33:51 GMT 10
Just take a look at Egypt now? They are still complaining they didn't get what the wanted.
Or any country that has overthrown their government in the last 20 yrs.... they do NOT have replacements ready to do the job of running countries...
these Syrians who are causing the war CANNOT run anything at all. They kill and they destroy property... that is what they do...
Would Australians like war criminals running this country after an overthrowing?
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