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Post by KTJ on Sept 14, 2015 23:14:54 GMT 10
Well....the result has just hit the news media in ENZED.
No doubt that idiot John Key will waffle on a whole lot of bullshit about it tomorrow morning....he is so full-of-shit.
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Post by slartibartfast on Sept 14, 2015 23:36:45 GMT 10
Utegate again?
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Post by Yassir Rebob on Sept 14, 2015 23:40:48 GMT 10
Interestingly, as at 11.30 pm, we're still yet to hear from TAbbott. Now, back to Talcum, he'll get a dead cat bounce in the polls, but when the punters realise that the substance of the LNP government has not changed (he has already signaled that there will be no change to Global Warming policy, despite his own opposition to it), they'll quickly regard him as no better than his predecessor.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 7:15:43 GMT 10
Good on Talcum...<nice one Yassir...if it is a case of meet the new boss same as the old, (just a different persona), with same policies there will be no new economy and new vision just more appeasing the miners then Australia's future economy will sink into a black hole recession, Labor has to enhance its differences in vision. And a special thanks to Julia Bishslop....for her role in removing Abborts...who has been aborted and hopefully he doesn't react like a homesick abortion...unlike some ex-leaders we know.. And apologise if crass abortion humour offends the women folk....sort of apt init ...
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Post by pim on Sept 15, 2015 14:56:21 GMT 10
I agree with most of what Yorick says except for the bit about it being a "mistake" to have Shorten as leader. This isn't about whether you or I or anyone else "likes" Shorten or finds him "cool". Do any of us here really understand what a thankless task it is to be a first term Opposition leader after a couple of terms in government? You have to show that you've "listened", that you understand why the electorate chucked your mob out, and that somehow you're in there with a chance at the next election. At the same time you're dealing with a demoralised party that's struggling with depleted numbers and relevance deprivation syndrome. If with all of that you manage to keep the party together and even start the job of policy review and political rebuild, then you're doing bloody well. I agree that the trump card for Shorten was Tony Abbott whose fundamental problem was that he never successfully made the transition from opposition leader to prime minister and it was clear that enough of the Liberal Party saw it that way too otherwise Tony Abbott would still be PM. And I also agree that Turnbull will be hard for Shorten Labor to beat. If Shorten Labor fails to beat the Turnbull Liberals next year that's no disgrace or dishonour to Shorten if he bequeaths to his successor a united party that's well advanced in its policy fundamentals. I'll tell you what: the Liberals are far less united than the Labor Party. How does a guy like Turnbull, with his profile on progressive issues, lead a party in which nearly a half of the members view him as the Antichrist? Did you see the news clip in which Cory Bernardi described Turnbull's ouster of Tony Abbott as "an indictment of politics in this country"? And this was after Turnbull had clearly won the prime ministership. How does Turnbull propose to lead a party that contains people like that, and a coalition party in the Nationals who are stroppy and resentful of him? How does he do it with all those loose cannons? And he has to. Shorten, however, leads a united party. You know what they say about the first truth of Australian politics: disunity is death.
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Post by caskur on Sept 15, 2015 16:26:23 GMT 10
I'm sure Turnbullshitters gaffs will fill this space....
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Post by pim on Sept 15, 2015 17:06:17 GMT 10
Dear Caskur, this is a gaff ... and this is a gaffe ... Hope that helped. Your secretary
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 19:12:10 GMT 10
Meet the hew boss same as the old.....
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Post by caskur on Sept 15, 2015 19:17:58 GMT 10
Dear Caskur, this is a gaff ... and this is a gaffe ... Hope that helped. Your secretary Payroll clerks... give this ol' boy a raise!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 19:39:02 GMT 10
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Post by caskur on Sept 15, 2015 19:40:25 GMT 10
^^^^
Another person besides me who feels "ashamed" of our government!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 19:47:13 GMT 10
Talcum is very articulate communicator he'll make destroying the environment understandable....
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Post by Yassir Rebob on Sept 15, 2015 21:25:44 GMT 10
If Fraser was Big Mal, does that mean Talcum is Little Mal ?
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Post by slartibartfast on Sept 15, 2015 21:36:11 GMT 10
Malcolm in the Muddle.
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Post by caskur on Sept 16, 2015 0:33:08 GMT 10
If Fraser was Big Mal, does that mean Talcum is Little Mal ? YEP!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 7:21:06 GMT 10
Its meet the new boss same as the old....and perhaps worse, environmentally.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 19:57:09 GMT 10
"Photographic evidence of my view that the problem isnât who is selling us the shit sandwich. The problem is the shit sandwich.."
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Post by Salem on Sept 16, 2015 21:00:34 GMT 10
Well, you have to give him something: he came to a deal with Victoria and NSW on NDIS. A step in the right direction.
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Post by slartibartfast on Sept 17, 2015 23:58:52 GMT 10
Malcolm Turnbull on Laborâs knifing of Prime Minister Kevin Rudd:
I will never forget the day that you gave your press conference following your removal as Leader of the Labor Party by your colleagues. It is etched in my memory. It was one of the cruelest moments I have ever witnessed. I had lost the leadership of my own party but, frankly, in a dispute about policyâŠ
The betrayal of you as leader of your party was one of the most shocking events I have ever witnessed, and I would think any of us have ever witnessed, in politicsâthe scale of it. The idea that the man who had won, in this presidential campaign, an election against John Howard was then going to be disposed of, discarded like another course on a lazy Susan in a Vietnamese restaurantâthe cruelty of it was extraordinary!
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Post by Salem on Sept 18, 2015 1:34:03 GMT 10
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Post by geopol on Sept 18, 2015 7:24:36 GMT 10
Hot or not, handsome or not, I hope you ladies, and others who appear to feel stirrings in their nickers, remind themselves, at least on election day which should not be too hard, that he is, remains and will always be a Liberal arsehole, always on the side of big business where his friends obviously are though he can drop a few bon mots on socially advanced social issues though they don't hold when there is some greater prize of personal advantage dangled in front of him. Hypocrisy and long windedness will become his trade marks and the same old con acts will continue to impoverish the country....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 10:33:40 GMT 10
So is Bill Shorto next...??
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 7:34:44 GMT 10
Its not as though Shorto cannot be replaced the question is who would replace him..??..to beat the popular Turnbull the new old boss.
I cannot think of anyone and seems the Labor factions have destroyed their chances for 2016....so the coal industry will burn and the environment will suffer under the coalition Turnbull needs the ultra conservatives on side, unless the people choose policies before charisma.
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Post by pim on Sept 19, 2015 8:05:23 GMT 10
Dunno what universe you're inhabiting to make such a claim Ponto, but in this particular universe Turnbull's approval ratings compared with Shorten are up in the stratosphere. In fact right now Shorten is the least of Turnbull's problems. His biggest political problem is those 30 hardcore extreme right-wing Liberals who voted for Kevin Andrews over Julie Bishop as deputy.
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