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Post by Salem on Apr 25, 2013 23:56:03 GMT 10
Thank you for proving my point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 23:58:28 GMT 10
They can pretend what they want, they are still Jews. Didn't the holocaust teach you anything ? A Jewish person is one who professes to PRACTICE the Jewish religion. NOT be a semite. The two are different things. If a semite decides they are Christian, or Muslim or Hindi or even a Jehovah's Witness and is baptised so, then they are a semite, but not Jewish. History was never your strong point was it ? The holocaust is littered with examples of people who weren't practicing Jews, even to the point to where they were so assimilated that their connection to Judaism was that their distant Grand parents may have gone to Schul at some stage, getting thrown into the ovens at Auswitcz.
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Post by Salem on Apr 26, 2013 0:01:25 GMT 10
A Jewish person is one who professes to PRACTICE the Jewish religion. NOT be a semite. The two are different things. If a semite decides they are Christian, or Muslim or Hindi or even a Jehovah's Witness and is baptised so, then they are a semite, but not Jewish. History was never your strong point was it ? The holocaust is littered with examples of people who weren't practicing Jews, even to the point to where they were so assimilated that their connection to Judaism was that their distant Grand parents may have gone to Schul at some stage, getting thrown into the ovens at Auswitcz. I think we all know the history of that. You are clutching at straws. It has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 0:01:37 GMT 10
Richo, get this into you... it is even sung to the music of Hallelujah!
Lecha Dodi by the Maccabeats
Also, I probably know way more about my roots than you Richo. You live as an individual, you practice superficiality and what is said is just words without meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 0:04:44 GMT 10
Richo, I can't just change what I believe. I believe Jesus is the Lord and Saviour, it has nothing to do with my heritage, it is a faith. Its a 'Faith' that contradicts the most basic tenet of the Judaism, however, and I suspect that deep down, you know that. What rot, to suggest that the Dreamtime is not a religion is to display an appalling colonial patronism. Oh, and stop being disingenuous, you know full well that you will always be Jewish, no matter what, you can't change your race.
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Post by Salem on Apr 26, 2013 0:07:43 GMT 10
Sigh. Tell the Aboriginal man I know that his not believing the Dreamtime is a religion is 'colonial patronism'. He'll sort you out quick smart. At this stage you are just flailing about at the air. You can't change your race but you CAN change your religion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 0:16:51 GMT 10
I don't actually believe I have turned my back Richo, I firmly believe my faith is compatible with Judaism. Jesus was a Jew, and I follow the teachings of Jesus.
I will never submit to "man" (i.e. the corrupt rabbinical authorities). Who do they think they are?
Jesus came with a simple message, that being peace and love, and to do away with corrupt "religion" and live by faith alone.
I cannot see an ounce of difference in the sense of heritage, ancestry and so forth between what I have embraced (faith) and what you have embraced (atheism).
I don't dispute for a second that you're Jewish, of course you are. But as for who you are spiritually, that is up for debate as I believe you are quite confused. Even the Orthodox Rabbis would consider you WORSE than a Jew who has become Christian. YOU reject the essence of Judaism. Without GOD, there would be no Judaism, there wouldn't be a Jewish people and there wouldn't even be a universe.
Think about that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 0:23:00 GMT 10
Really ? Saying that the example of where the Nazis threw people who even identified themselves as 'christian' into the Gas Chambers, just because their Grand Parents may have been Jewish, has no relevance to the discussion that you can stop being Jewish if you change their religion ? Another head hit table moment from Salem. Those people who screamed black and blue that they weren't Jewish, but actually Christian, and yet the Nazis threw them into the Gas Chambers, regardless, they considered that they were Jewish enough to slaughter them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 0:26:01 GMT 10
Sigh. Tell the Aboriginal man I know that his not believing the Dreamtime is a religion is 'colonial patronism'. He'll sort you out quick smart. At this stage you are just flailing about at the air. You can't change your race but you CAN change your religion. I wasn't talking about him, I was talking about you, you patronising twit. The Dreaming is how tribal Aborigines express their spirituality. You Know RELIGION ? Talk about being two short planks.
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Post by Salem on Apr 26, 2013 0:28:50 GMT 10
Really ? Saying that the example of where the Nazis threw people who even identified themselves as 'christian' into the Gas Chambers, just because their Grand Parents may have been Jewish, has no relevance to the discussion that you can stop being Jewish if you change their religion ? Another head hit table moment from Salem. Those people who screamed black and blue that they weren't Jewish, but actually Christian, and yet the Nazis threw them into the Gas Chambers, regardless, they considered that they were Jewish enough to slaughter them. Sigh You really are not very bright, are you?
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Post by Salem on Apr 26, 2013 0:31:20 GMT 10
Sigh. Tell the Aboriginal man I know that his not believing the Dreamtime is a religion is 'colonial patronism'. He'll sort you out quick smart. At this stage you are just flailing about at the air. You can't change your race but you CAN change your religion. I wasn't talking about him, I was talking about you, you patronising twit. The Dreaming is how tribal Aborigines express their spirituality. You Know RELIGION ? Talk about being two short planks. Yes and I was talking about Matt and current Jewish people not Hitler. The Dreaming is NOT a religion. You truly have completely lost it. Please stop. Your desperation is sad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 0:38:18 GMT 10
I am thankful for the endless grace that Jesus has in my life, and I truly believe as a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ, my real and only purpose in life is to bring people to the Lord. There is nothing more important than that.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is included as a person who need the Lord Jesus Christ, we all need Jesus. There is still time for Dzhokhar to be saved so that he too can embrace the glory of God.
There is still time for you as well Richo, you should get on your knees, sincerely pray to the Lord, invite Him into your life.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 0:38:37 GMT 10
I don't actually believe I have turned my back Richo, I firmly believe my faith is compatible with Judaism. Jesus was a Jew, and I follow the teachings of Jesus. Jesus was a Rebbe. Now, can I suggest sitting down and reading the Torah ? For you, I'd recommend going to one of the Chabad houses. I'm sure that they have a presence in Sydney. Let one of the Rabbis help you go through it and pay attention to the commentaries. The Torah is very strict on monotheism, there's no wriggle room of a concept like the "Trinity", for starters. Only you can save you, not some sky deity that will "save" you, is another.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 0:42:41 GMT 10
Yes and I was talking about Matt and current Jewish people not Hitler. Ah, so the Nazis wont throw the Matts of this world into the Chambers next time around ? So, spirituality is not religion now ? You really are a moron Salem, in fact, you have just become the favorite to become the boards Village Idiot in Garfies absence.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 0:43:50 GMT 10
<cough> When was the last time you said Schmar or put on tephillim, Matt ? I don't need to wear scriptures, I live the Word!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 0:45:23 GMT 10
Oh, and Matt, you take Jesus I'll take G-d.
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Post by Salem on Apr 26, 2013 0:46:00 GMT 10
Hitler is irrelevant to this topic.
Spirituality does NOT equal religion. If you really think it does, that explains why you are such an ignorant imbecile. Religion does encompass spirituality, but spirituality on its own does not necessarily encompass religion. You wonder why you are seen as such an ignorant idiot when you make illinformed 'statements' like this. smh
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Post by Salem on Apr 26, 2013 0:46:34 GMT 10
Oh, and Matt, you take Jesus I'll take G-d. You take G-d. I'll take God.
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Post by jody on Apr 26, 2013 7:59:27 GMT 10
Yes I will take God too. This G-d crap is so very stupid. I have to say Matt, you're comments throughout this thread are very mature. Perhaps the break has done you the world of good.
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Post by pim on Apr 26, 2013 9:48:33 GMT 10
What is it called when many millions of Christians have it done....a circumcision. I've come late to the thread. I've heard GP's refer to it flippantly as a "cirk" - pronounced "serk"! You do get men who, for health reasons, find they have to get "cirked". Or "snipped". Or get their pencil sharpened! In Dutch the verb "to circumcise" = 'besnijden" or literally "to slice". Same in German: "beschneiden". That's the problem with Germanic languages, they tend to call a spade a bloody shovel. I think if people had to talk of getting their baby son "sliced" insead of "circumcised", you'd have a lot fewer circumcisions!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 10:23:55 GMT 10
Hitler is irrelevant to this topic. Ah, so those chritians that were sent to the death camps by the Nazis, because of their Jewish background were really Jewish, yet people like Matt, who say they are Christian, despite that their parents are Jewish are really Christians now ? Oh, O...k....., I suppose you could argue that to a priest or something, He'd be too polite to laugh in your face, but he'd be shaking his head at that lack of logic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 10:27:30 GMT 10
Yes I will take God too. This G-d crap is so very You do understand that that is how G-d is written in the first testament, don't you ? Something to do with blasphemy, apparently. I don't accept Salem to understand concept, with her smarmy and ignorant reply in the previous post, but you do profess to have some sort of faith, so you would reckon that you may have read the Bible at some stage.
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Post by Salem on Apr 26, 2013 17:41:52 GMT 10
Again, Nazis have NOTHING to do with someone choosing their own religion in 2013. You keep making yourself look more and more desperate and pathetic.
Ask a Priest (or Rabbi) yourself. Spirituality is part of religion, but it is NOT religion on its own. You can be spiritual, but not religious. I'm spiritual, but I don't have or follow any religion. And personally, I find 'G-d' offensive. But, thats me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 1:51:03 GMT 10
Yes I will take God too. This G-d crap is so very stupid. I have to say Matt, you're comments throughout this thread are very mature. Perhaps the break has done you the world of good. It is my hormone levels coming under control with the shrinking of the pituitary gland and the prayers for healing from my Christian brothers and sisters.
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 27, 2013 7:50:42 GMT 10
Brain well and truly washed.
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