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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 19:28:11 GMT 10
lol...it really grates at you that Matt dumped his jewishism doesn't it Richo. its called turning your back on your own
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Post by jody on Apr 24, 2013 21:10:47 GMT 10
No it isn't Richo...it is being free to choose what you want.
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 25, 2013 7:38:29 GMT 10
No it isn't Richo...it is being free to choose what you want. Yes, there are 100s of Gods to choose from, enough for everyone! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 8:27:49 GMT 10
No it isn't Richo...it is being free to choose what you want. So, it's OK to turn your back on your own then ? Betya his Folks don't see it as him exercising some sort of free choice.
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Post by jody on Apr 25, 2013 8:44:59 GMT 10
In all honesty it is none of his parents business. You treat Judaism like it is the be all and end all yet have a go at Christians for feeling the same way. Without Christ you have nothing Richo. Regardless of what we're born into we have a right to choose which way we want to go.....Matt has thankfully chosen the right path.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 9:41:18 GMT 10
In all honesty it is none of his parents business. You treat Judaism like it is the be all and end all yet have a go at Christians for feeling the same way. Without Christ you have nothing Richo. Regardless of what we're born into we have a right to choose which way we want to go.....Matt has thankfully chosen the right path. What Rot, what Matt has done is essentially renounced his own heritage . Oh, and Jody, as far as being nothing without "christ", you can shove that where the sun don't shine deary. I may not be the most religious person around, but at least I am comfortable with my own spirituality, are you ?
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 25, 2013 9:43:09 GMT 10
If Matt has chosen the right path, can someone please give him a GPS?
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Post by jody on Apr 25, 2013 10:45:51 GMT 10
More comfortable than you Richo...I don't shun my faith when it suits me. We are who we choose to be, not what our lineage tells us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 10:56:02 GMT 10
More comfortable than you Richo.. You think ? Neither do I Well, no, you can't escape your heritage, to pretend otherwise is kidding yourself.
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Post by jody on Apr 25, 2013 11:10:25 GMT 10
Rubbish. You can escape whatever you want.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 14:06:57 GMT 10
Rubbish. You can escape whatever you want. Well, I'm sick of being a Caucasian, I reckon I want to be Negro. I Know I'll go see a witch doctor, then all that needs to happen is for the sharman to say some sort of incantation, then Zap ! , Suddenly I'll be as black as the ace of spades. Yeah Right, and Pigs Fly.
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Post by jody on Apr 25, 2013 14:24:51 GMT 10
idiot.
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Post by Salem on Apr 25, 2013 18:11:37 GMT 10
Lol Freddy, haven't you said before you are an Atheist or Agnostic? You don't even follow your own religion.
As far as 'heritage', lets say all your family including grandparents are Liberal, including 2 generations back. Still think you don't have a right to turn your back on your own?
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 25, 2013 18:13:44 GMT 10
Who you support politically isn't heritage!
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Post by jody on Apr 25, 2013 18:21:16 GMT 10
Salem I think Richo is off with the "jewish" fairies somewhere.
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Post by Salem on Apr 25, 2013 19:16:41 GMT 10
Slart, yes, it is. Ever heard of political dynasties? Politics is every bit as much heritage as religion. Perhaps even moreso.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 20:13:14 GMT 10
Lol Freddy, haven't you said before you are an Atheist or Agnostic? You don't even follow your own religion. As far as 'heritage', lets say all your family including grandparents are Liberal, including 2 generations back. Still think you don't have a right to turn your back on your own? You do understand that Jews are a race don't you ? Oh, you don't, that's right, you're completely unable to understand nuance. It doesn't matter how secular you are, if you have Jewish heritage, your still going to be a Jew, culturally, if not religiously. Essentially, by proclaiming himself a 'Christian', Matt has decided to turn his back, and cut himself off from much of his culture. His problem,however, is that he can't run away or hide from that so easily, no matter how hard he tries or how many times he denies.
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Post by Salem on Apr 25, 2013 20:20:13 GMT 10
PMSL, stop confusing the two. While you can't change your race, (and Matt has never said he wanted to change his 'race'), you can change your religion. Stop being a petty moron.
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 25, 2013 20:26:43 GMT 10
Slart, yes, it is. Ever heard of political dynasties? Politics is every bit as much heritage as religion. Perhaps even moreso. Crap!
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Post by jody on Apr 25, 2013 20:42:03 GMT 10
Richo....you seriously need to get a grip....or let go, one of the two.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 21:09:53 GMT 10
PMSL, stop confusing the two. While you can't change your race, (and Matt has never said he wanted to change his 'race'), you can change your religion. Stop being a petty moron. You cant with Judaism, the two are intertwined, you know, like the prayers that are part of a Seder, or the blessings said when you light a Chunkkah menorah ? Not to mention the Bar/Bat Mitzvah. Hell, Matt even gave his son a Bris. If a Bris isn't a religious statement, what would you call it ? Sorry that you can't understand that sort of nuance, but Matts recounts of giving his son a Bris etc, whilst proclaiming how he is such a committed 'Christian' show just how much of a mockery he is making of both religions
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Post by jody on Apr 25, 2013 21:19:36 GMT 10
Bris is circumcision? It isn't only Jews who do that Richo.
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Post by Salem on Apr 25, 2013 21:33:53 GMT 10
I think richo has found a new word after seeing it in one of Pim's posts. Nuance. Only he seems to use it in the wrong situations. Not only does he make a mockery of Judaism himself by being an Atheist and then Agnostic when it suits him, but he truly thinks just because you were born Jewish you cannot change your religion. Richo himself proves you can. Such hypocrisy.
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Post by Salem on Apr 25, 2013 21:34:21 GMT 10
Slart, yes, it is. Ever heard of political dynasties? Politics is every bit as much heritage as religion. Perhaps even moreso. Crap! Nope. Truth!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 22:05:25 GMT 10
PMSL, stop confusing the two. While you can't change your race, (and Matt has never said he wanted to change his 'race'), you can change your religion. Stop being a petty moron. You cant with Judaism, the two are intertwined, you know, like the prayers that are part of a Seder, or the blessings said when you light a Chunkkah menorah ? Not to mention the Bar/Bat Mitzvah. Hell, Matt even gave his son a Bris. If a Bris isn't a religious statement, what would you call it ? Sorry that you can't understand that sort of nuance, but Matts recounts of giving his son a Bris etc, whilst proclaiming how he is such a committed 'Christian' show just how much of a mockery he is making of both religions Who said I gave my son a Bris? I said after taking on board my parents feelings, I compromised and had a non-religious circumcision done by a doctor. I was not prepared for there to be a "ritual" involved, as Jesus spoke against vain tradition and ritual.
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