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Post by matte on Jul 30, 2022 12:10:49 GMT 10
A chamber based on race... what a racist proposition.
It won't pass a referendum as Albo refuses to spell out what constitutional changes will need to be made. He just wants the question.
There are aboriginal MPs and Senators already. They have a "voice".
Jacinta Price, a strong Aboriginal woman and Senator for the Northern Territory, is against it, as stated in her maiden speech below:
Tell us the detail Albo, don't just tell us the question.
During the 1999 referendum, all the constitutional changes were put into a booklet and posted out to everyone. Where is the detail?
I will vote NO for something which has no detail.
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Post by caskur on Jul 31, 2022 5:15:14 GMT 10
A chamber based on race... what a racist proposition. It won't pass a referendum as Albo refuses to spell out what constitutional changes will need to be made. He just wants the question. There are aboriginal MPs and Senators already. They have a "voice". Jacinta Price, a strong Aboriginal woman and Senator for the Northern Territory, is against it, as stated in her maiden speech below: Tell us the detail Albo, don't just tell us the question. During the 1999 referendum, all the constitutional changes were put into a booklet and posted out to everyone. Where is the detail? I will vote NO for something which has no detail. So they aren't Australian citizens now with the EXACT same lurks and perks as every other Australian Citizen? I will vote no as well sadly there are plenty of dummies who will vote yes!~ |
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Post by Stellar on Jul 31, 2022 7:15:36 GMT 10
They've already got several MPs and senators to give them a voice in parliament. Aboriginals just so happen to be citizens of this country - the same as everyone else whether they were born here or are immigrants. There's nothing special about them that warrants special treatment by parliament. Their voice is no more special than anyone else's voice. They should just all shut up and stop playing the eternal victim.
Personally I'm just sick to death of them and their demands. So obviously I'll be voting "No"!
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Post by Gort on Jul 31, 2022 11:08:20 GMT 10
I'll be voting "No" too.
I am against any minority group having SPECIAL representation enshrined into the constitution.
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Post by matte on Jul 31, 2022 14:24:16 GMT 10
We're all meant to be equal.
One person, one vote. We all have choices in life. Even those born into difficulty do manage to get themselves out of it.
But if you use it as an excuse to remain impoverished, it is on you.
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Post by ponto on Aug 3, 2022 16:51:55 GMT 10
What this is about is recognition that there is a prior people before British colonisation and gives voice to those people in parliament as to there direction and self determination on what effects them, its been a fairly shit job so far under Christian government control, ...effects all you white honkies no one iota but means a heck of lot to the aboriginal people's...shall I remind you folk that the coalition's far right ideology was rejected by the people at the last election.
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Post by caskur on Aug 3, 2022 19:37:52 GMT 10
What this is about is recognition that there is a prior people before British colonisation and gives voice to those people in parliament as to there direction and self determination on what effects them, its been a fairly shit job so far under Christian government control, ...effects all you white honkies no one iota but means a heck of lot to the aboriginal people's...shall I remind you folk that the coalition's far right ideology was rejected by the people at the last election. ^^^^ racist separatist... Boooooooooo Booooooooooo Booooooooooo |
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Post by Stellar on Aug 3, 2022 20:36:08 GMT 10
What this is about is recognition that there is a prior people before British colonisation and gives voice to those people in parliament as to there direction and self determination on what effects them, its been a fairly shit job so far under Christian government control, ...effects all you white honkies no one iota but means a heck of lot to the aboriginal people's...shall I remind you folk that the coalition's far right ideology was rejected by the people at the last election. Those people knew nothing of govts - they were just a small number of disparate tribes who killed one another over food resources, water resources, women, etc. Jacinta Price basically said as much in her maiden speech. There's nothing they can add to our society. Better they just become assimilated to the superior culture and start contributing to this nation rather than remain the eternal victims and bludge off it. They need to brush up on the history of the world. They have been favourably treated by the British. The Dutch on the other hand would have enslaved them like they did the Indos. |
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Post by matte on Aug 5, 2022 14:16:58 GMT 10
Any Aboriginal living today is living with all the benefits of modern society. What happened over 200 years ago is irrelevant to them today.
Anyone who talks about "what was" is making excuses. What people should be focused on is "what is".
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Post by nataliesalat on Aug 7, 2022 23:56:33 GMT 10
Realistic Aboriginal man to Lidia Thorpe: "I would rather run away with my own mother than own a fawning little creep like you"
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Post by ponto on Aug 13, 2022 8:11:35 GMT 10
10 things you need to know about Jacinta Price
By Welcome to country -February 9, 2019124398
Share on Facebook Tweet on Twitter  ![]() Jacinta Price is often in headlines that surround Aboriginal issues and topics. Many non-Indigenous Australians love to hear her opinions. However, with a little more background knowledge, you will start to understand why many Indigenous people cringe when her name is mentioned. Jacinta Price’s stance on Australia Day won her many non-Indigenous fans since her first Facebook rant on the issue in January 2017. It looks like a road is now being paved for her to be pushed into Federal politics. But is it a wise move for people who admire her stance to throw their full support behind someone who’s biggest achievement was a Facebook post? Here are 10 things you need to know about Jacinta Price. You need to know that other political leaders think she is fit to be a leader simply because of her opinions. Shouldn’t potential leaders be judged on their track record and their achievements? Jacinta Price was one of nine town Councillors in Alice Springs. What are her achievements in a town that is considered the most racist in Australia and appears only to be getting worse? You need to know that Jacinta’s main argument about Australia Day is that there are more important issues that need to be addressed first. While many Indigenous people spent one day protesting on January 26th, Jacinta Price spent two months campaigning against changes to Australia Day. How can she not see how hypocritical that is? You need to know that Jacinta Price could potentially influence other Indigenous people to follow her lead. Look how easy it was for Jacinta. Make a few Facebook statuses about Australia Day, next minute you’re on national TV, a few months later you’re positioned to be the leader of an electorate that covers the entire Northern Territory. You need to know that Jacinta Price did not seem concerned about the Royal Commission into juvenile detention. In November 2017, Price posted on her Facebook page to criticise Four Corners for their story which ultimately convinced Prime Minister Turnbull to call for a Royal Commission. (Price has since deleted that post after we highlighted it in this article). You need to know how defensive she gets when she is called out by her own people. Instead of listening and responding to those comments, Jacinta Price retaliates by criticising or goes in search of people who will defend her. This is not constructive and not how a future leader should behave. You need to know her track record of slandering other prominent Indigenous people. From former Senator Nova Peris to Tasmanian Aboriginal leader Michael Mansell and highly respected Elder Rosalie Kunoth Monks, not to mention her ongoing bitter fued with members of the Voller family in Alice Springs. You need to know that Jacinta Price tries to speak on behalf of Aboriginal people. Even though she now claims that she doesn’t, she continues to make blanket statements on behalf of many Aboriginal people. For example: “Aboriginal people in remote communities aren’t concerned about Australia Day”. This is a blanket statement that was proved wrong in a video posted by Children’s Ground who are working in town camps outside of Alice Springs. You need to know that no one seems concerned about the corruption clouds that hung around her mothers time in politics. Aren’t party members concerned that history will repeat? Or are they all corrupt and on the lookout for a new Aboriginal puppet to help erode any Indigenous rights that still exist. You need to know that Jacinta Price called on her Facebook supporters to try and report a petition that read, “As an Aboriginal person, Jacinta Price does not speak for me“. This is really concerning for someone who could potentially become a leader. These actions resemble those of a dictator. You need to know that Jacinta Price decided to defend Scottish explorer John McDouall Stuart after his controversial statue was vandalised recently. Price claimed Stuart never killed Aboriginal people even though historical records show that he was directly involved with massacres. An extra point to note: through observations and public comments from community members in Alice Springs, Jacinta’s non-Indigenous father should be recognised as the major influence behind her views. We note that her father is not listed on her wikipedia page. Well those are just 10 things you need to know about Jacinta Price. Would you like to add to this list? We haven’t even mentioned her illogical stance on the Cashless welfare card or her views about mining. Let us know your thoughts in the comments below. Update: Jacinta’s response to this article… “Welcome to Country is Fake News”. Nice response to an opinion piece Jacinta… I wonder which right wing political leader you got that line from? Welcome to Country is an independent Indigenous news media website. We publish news and articles which represent stories and views that are often ignored by Australia’s mainstream media.
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Post by caskur on Aug 13, 2022 16:16:37 GMT 10
I CRINGE and practically VOMIT when I hear on the news the latest murders and sex crimes committed by aborigines on their own tribes and us hard working law abiding citizens.
The "pity poor me." days are over. Either obeys the laws of mankind laid down by God or take a trip to another planet because your, "pity poor me rhetoric," is now OVER.
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Post by freddies ghost on Sept 12, 2022 16:14:04 GMT 10
What this is about is recognition that there is a prior people before British colonisation and gives voice to those people in parliament as to there direction and self determination on what effects them, its been a fairly shit job so far under Christian government control, ...effects all you white honkies no one iota but means a heck of lot to the aboriginal people's...shall I remind you folk that the coalition's far right ideology was rejected by the people at the last election. all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others |
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Post by freddies ghost on Sept 12, 2022 16:17:22 GMT 10
What this is about is recognition that there is a prior people before British colonisation and gives voice to those people in parliament as to there direction and self determination on what effects them, its been a fairly shit job so far under Christian government control, ...effects all you white honkies no one iota but means a heck of lot to the aboriginal people's...shall I remind you folk that the coalition's far right ideology was rejected by the people at the last election. ^^^^ racist separatist... Boooooooooo Booooooooooo Booooooooooo Ponto is what the internet call an NPC. |
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Post by freddies ghost on Sept 12, 2022 18:07:26 GMT 10
At the moment, I'm inclined to abstain.
VTP, not only undermines the constitution, it's also divisive.
Trouble is the narrative will portray anyone who votes No as racist, despite the many valid r
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Post by freddies ghost on Sept 12, 2022 18:08:40 GMT 10
At the moment, I'm inclined to abstain.
VTP, not only undermines the constitution, it's also divisive.
Trouble is the narrative will portray anyone who votes No as a racis quant despite the many valid reasons to vote no.
We're going to be emotionally manipulated to vote yes.
Bugger that.
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Post by caskur on Sept 13, 2022 14:13:38 GMT 10
I am not going to be emotionally manipulated either you are an Australian citizen with equal opportunities and obligations or not.
The whole issue is cringe worthy.
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Post by Stellar on Sept 14, 2022 8:58:14 GMT 10
This "voice" ... why does it have to be constitutionally enshrined??
Do they not have a voice in parliament via their various Aboriginal MPs?
There's a lot we don't know about how this "voice" will impact on the rest of Australians.
I will vote NO!
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Post by caskur on Sept 14, 2022 20:25:54 GMT 10
This "voice" ... why does it have to be constitutionally enshrined?? Do they not have a voice in parliament via their various Aboriginal MPs? There's a lot we don't know about how this "voice" will impact on the rest of Australians. I will vote NO! They got everything they ever wanted. Remember when they used to say, all we want is a sorry? That is all they wanted and it was shoved down people throats for years. (I KNEW THAT WAS BULLSHIT) but here on this forum our comments have minimal value. You need to make your comments heard on fb or Twitter where the audience is Bigger! Where more people see common sense. Just keep harping the citizen mantra and that we are ALL equally bound to that. |
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Post by freddies ghost on Sept 15, 2022 15:45:39 GMT 10
This "voice" ... why does it have to be constitutionally enshrined?? Do they not have a voice in parliament via their various Aboriginal MPs? There's a lot we don't know about how this "voice" will impact on the rest of Australians. I will vote NO! whilst I'm inclined to abstain, if push comes to shove, it's a no vote from me too. What really gets my goat is the emotional manipulation that they'll put us through in order to secure a yes vote. The narrative will be that anyone who dares to vote no, regardless of the merits of not wanting to vote yes, will be painted as a racist quant. We're going to see emotional black male, big time. |
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Post by caskur on Sept 15, 2022 19:25:25 GMT 10
I can take the emotional blackmail...
I couldn't careless about being labeled a racist by RACISTS.
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Post by nataliesalat on Sept 27, 2022 13:26:48 GMT 10
I have a suggestion: make Jordan De Goey a Greens Senator. Then his behavioural issues won't be noticed.   |
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Post by caskur on Sept 28, 2022 4:44:37 GMT 10
I have a suggestion: make Jordan De Goey a Greens Senator. Then his behavioural issues won't be noticed. I have no idea what you are talking about. |
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Post by Stellar on Sept 28, 2022 7:56:10 GMT 10
Neither do I.  As for the "voice" to parliament ... is this what it's going to look like?  |
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Post by nataliesalat on Sept 28, 2022 10:41:37 GMT 10
When we see that photo of Thorpe, I'm sure we all think of Palpatine electro-frying Mace Windu: "POWER! ULTIMATE POWER!"
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