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Post by matte on Jun 26, 2022 15:45:26 GMT 10
 She has a legitimate concern. In some states she might be suspected of a backyard abortion. Her face actually shows a lot of emotion. Looks like she is crying. |
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Post by caskur on Jun 26, 2022 23:44:46 GMT 10
The whole thing is a travesty.
I hope it gets resolved sooner rather than later.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jun 28, 2022 5:38:37 GMT 10
Y'all need to relax...
Roe v. Wade is just a clump of words. 😎
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Post by ponto on Jun 28, 2022 15:06:18 GMT 10
Bullshit fascism from a bunch of bastards..  |
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jun 29, 2022 0:05:07 GMT 10
Bullshit fascism from a bunch of bastards.. Ha ha. Your ilk have no right to cry 'fascist' after supporting Comrade Biden's repressive regime, and its mandates, for the past two years. You are embarrassing yourself! Back to topic: I've known women who have had miscarriages and it broke them; I have known women who had abortions and it meant nothing to them. They are not the same. If you are grown up enough to do the deed, be grown up enough to accept the consequences! Abortion is not birth control! |
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Post by ponto on Jun 29, 2022 21:38:02 GMT 10
Early stages of pregnancy a women can miscarry...its common, and common for women to think it was just a heavy period.
To state women without care choose to have an abortion is a abrogation of then truth and a lie.....this ban abortion and the removal of free choice is a Trump Christo-fascist creation and will not stop there.....one only hopes Trump is criminally charged.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jun 29, 2022 22:36:14 GMT 10
Early stages of pregnancy a women can miscarry...its common, and common for women to think it was just a heavy period. To state women without care choose to have an abortion is a abrogation of then truth and a lie.....this ban abortion and the removal of free choice is a Trump Christo-fascist creation and will not stop there.....one only hopes Trump is criminally charged. This topic is about abortions. It's not about your religious/political prejudices. Check your bigotry at the door! ...If you have a point to raise that isn't sourced from emotional outrage, I'll be happy to address it. |
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jun 30, 2022 0:20:24 GMT 10
Joe is confused (As usual)
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Post by caskur on Jun 30, 2022 16:27:41 GMT 10
Joe is confused (As usual) The sooner men are made accountable for unwanted pregnancy the better. |
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Post by pim on Jun 30, 2022 19:10:42 GMT 10
 Blessed be the fruitcake |
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Post by pim on Jun 30, 2022 19:18:55 GMT 10
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Post by caskur on Jun 30, 2022 19:20:14 GMT 10
Blessed be the fruitcake Ha, I just wrote about the Handmaids Tale on Bastard Factory where hot debate is carried out. Next thing the yanks will do it stop USA women crossing borders into Mexico while pregnant to stop them getting an abortion. Americans are serious nutcases. A bunch of backward hicks. |
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jun 30, 2022 23:59:11 GMT 10
Joe is confused (As usual) The sooner men are made accountable for unwanted pregnancy the better. You speak as though the men were the only ones involved... The cost of making adult decisions is accepting responsibility, and consequences. It's the same for everything. I agree if people aren't mature enough to make responsibile choices, the girls should say no, and the boys should keep it zipped up. That's adulting . I blame both genders! If at least one of them were being grownup, the abortion debate would be unnecessary. One persons lack of self discipline shouldn't result in the murder of another person. |
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jul 1, 2022 0:34:19 GMT 10
Blessed be the fruitcake Ha, I just wrote about the Handmaids Tale on Bastard Factory where hot debate is carried out. Next thing the yanks will do it stop USA women crossing borders into Mexico while pregnant to stop them getting an abortion. Americans are serious nutcases. A bunch of backward hicks. Murder is still morally wrong whether government endorsed or not. Geographical location is irrelevant. |
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Post by caskur on Jul 1, 2022 3:40:50 GMT 10
The sooner men are made accountable for unwanted pregnancy the better. You speak as though the men were the only ones involved... The cost of making adult decisions is accepting responsibility, and consequences. It's the same for everything. I agree if people aren't mature enough to make responsibile choices, the girls should say no, and the boys should keep it zipped up. That's adulting . I blame both genders! If at least one of them were being grownup, the abortion debate would be unnecessary. One persons lack of self discipline shouldn't result in the murder of another person. Aren't young men taught safe sex in Canada? Don't they know about condoms and preventing STD spread. They must be pretty dumb then. |
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jul 1, 2022 4:41:07 GMT 10
You speak as though the men were the only ones involved... The cost of making adult decisions is accepting responsibility, and consequences. It's the same for everything. I agree if people aren't mature enough to make responsibile choices, the girls should say no, and the boys should keep it zipped up. That's adulting . I blame both genders! If at least one of them were being grownup, the abortion debate would be unnecessary. One persons lack of self discipline shouldn't result in the murder of another person. Aren't young men taught safe sex in Canada? Don't they know about condoms and preventing STD spread. They must must pretty dumb then. Sure they do, which only furthers my point: If people are so well versed in the responsible use of birth control then what is the excuse for the holocaust portion of annual child sacrifices that we call 'abortion'? And why are you even defending it? Also surprised that you don't know it takes two to make an 'oops' baby. If you did know, then why are you putting the entire weight of a shared responsibility squarely on the men? ...Has Identity politics gone so far off the rails in your realm? Is it back to the basic 'birds and bees' discussion with you? |
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Post by Gort on Jul 1, 2022 8:32:51 GMT 10
What about cases of rape?
There are cases of children becoming pregnant to family rape.
As young as 13.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jul 1, 2022 13:15:48 GMT 10
What about cases of rape? There are cases of children becoming pregnant to family rape. As young as 13. Rape only accounts for 1% of abortion cases, and legalizing abortion will not 'unrape' a woman. You don't fix the 'wrong' by throwing more wrong onto it. |
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Post by Gort on Jul 1, 2022 15:04:01 GMT 10
Compared to women between the ages of 20-35, pregnant women under 20 are at a greater risk for death and disease including bleeding during pregnancy, toxemia, hemorrhage, prolonged and difficult labor, severe anemia, and disability. Life-long social and economic disadvantages may be a consequence of teenage birth. Educational and career opportunities may be limited, as may be opportunities for marriage. Teen mothers tend to have larger completed family sizes, shorter birth intervals resulting in both poorer health status for the family, and a more severe level of poverty. The children also suffer; teens mothers have a higher incidence of low birth weight infants which is associated with birth injuries, serious childhood illness, and mental and physical disabilities. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12264602/ |
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Post by caskur on Jul 1, 2022 17:50:02 GMT 10
Aren't young men taught safe sex in Canada? Don't they know about condoms and preventing STD spread. They must must pretty dumb then. Sure they do, which only furthers my point: If people are so well versed in the responsible use of birth control then what is the excuse for the holocaust portion of annual child sacrifices that we call 'abortion'? And why are you even defending it? Also surprised that you don't know it takes two to make an 'oops' baby. If you did know, then why are you putting the entire weight of a shared responsibility squarely on the men? ...Has Identity politics gone so far off the rails in your realm? Is it back to the basic 'birds and bees' discussion with you? The entire responsibily does belong to males. I know that is hard for you to take in and accept but shirking off males responsibility for unwanted pregnancy isn't going to cut it with me. Females are born with roughly 500 eggs and they would NEVER develop into an unwanted child by themselves. |
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Post by caskur on Jul 1, 2022 17:54:00 GMT 10
What about cases of rape? There are cases of children becoming pregnant to family rape. As young as 13. Thankfully Australia will never turn nutters like North Americans... |
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jul 2, 2022 2:06:01 GMT 10
Sure they do, which only furthers my point: If people are so well versed in the responsible use of birth control then what is the excuse for the holocaust portion of annual child sacrifices that we call 'abortion'? And why are you even defending it? Also surprised that you don't know it takes two to make an 'oops' baby. If you did know, then why are you putting the entire weight of a shared responsibility squarely on the men? ...Has Identity politics gone so far off the rails in your realm? Is it back to the basic 'birds and bees' discussion with you? The entire responsibily does belong to males. I know that is hard for you to take in and accept but shirking off males responsibility for unwanted pregnancy isn't going to cut it with me. Females are born with roughly 500 eggs and they would NEVER develop into an unwanted child by themselves. It's insulting to women to suggest they have no reproductive autonomy. I'm even more surprised this notion is coming from a woman. Not very feminist of you.  |
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jul 2, 2022 2:11:06 GMT 10
What about cases of rape? There are cases of children becoming pregnant to family rape. As young as 13. Thankfully Australia will never turn nutters like North Americans... -Ray Bradbury What a privilege it must be for the born to make decisions for the unborn. |
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jul 2, 2022 2:16:45 GMT 10
Compared to women between the ages of 20-35, pregnant women under 20 are at a greater risk for death and disease including bleeding during pregnancy, toxemia, hemorrhage, prolonged and difficult labor, severe anemia, and disability. Life-long social and economic disadvantages may be a consequence of teenage birth. Educational and career opportunities may be limited, as may be opportunities for marriage. Teen mothers tend to have larger completed family sizes, shorter birth intervals resulting in both poorer health status for the family, and a more severe level of poverty. The children also suffer; teens mothers have a higher incidence of low birth weight infants which is associated with birth injuries, serious childhood illness, and mental and physical disabilities. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12264602/Again. Out of the 2 million each year who have abortions, how many do you suppose fit this category? Stop making excuses to justify murder! |
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Post by caskur on Jul 2, 2022 4:18:36 GMT 10
Phew... 2 million less mouths a year to feed...
Better a shed / scraped embryo than watch a poor kid starve to death from neglect.
80% of fertilised eggs do not take... God must be a big time murderer if you're calling losing embryos "MURDER".
Face it... not all embryos are viable and most aren't thank goodness or we'd all be living on top of each other in cardboard boxes wondering where our next meal is coming from and whats happened to the earth biodiversity.
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