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Post by bender on Feb 21, 2022 13:48:31 GMT 10
The idealogically unvaccinated are not solely assuming the risk. They create a risk to the Community because they will keep this virus continually circulating and presumably mutating. They create a risk to the Community because if they get sick they will be tying up resources that might mean others can't get the help they need.
That is unjustifiable.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 21, 2022 14:19:33 GMT 10
The idealogically unvaccinated are not solely assuming the risk. They create a risk to the Community because they will keep this virus continually circulating and presumably mutating. They create a risk to the Community because if they get sick they will be tying up resources that might mean others can't get the help they need. That is unjustifiable. If the vaccine were effective as advertised, that wouldn't be a concern. How do you account for Countries like Israel where they are 100% vaccinated, but the infection rate is still rising?
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Post by ponto on Feb 21, 2022 14:32:54 GMT 10
What Occam is more or less stating is the same as the RW who think that 1% of climate denial science must have 50% equal footing with the 99% of climate change scientist.
What science is saying vaccines are no silver bullet they are effective in making people less virulent carriers of Covid-19.
The arguments made by the alt right civil libertarians are not fact or reality...they are a fringe group of people who are essentially anti government protestors preying on the less informed...which makes them dangerous group of people.
People who think a demagogue populist dictator is more preferable than democracy itself...and they call that fighting for freedom.
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Post by bender on Feb 21, 2022 16:27:55 GMT 10
Spork you have spouted just about enough bullshit.
"Oh the bad man is bringing in martial law, we're standing up for freedom, Bill Gates is trying to control our minds with microchips in the vaccine."
You are a fucking idiot, you do not have a clue and that comes across clearly and undeniably just about every time you hit the send button.....
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Post by caskur on Feb 21, 2022 16:29:53 GMT 10
The idealogically unvaccinated are not solely assuming the risk. They create a risk to the Community because they will keep this virus continually circulating and presumably mutating. They create a risk to the Community because if they get sick they will be tying up resources that might mean others can't get the help they need. That is unjustifiable. yeah... this is why the expert last night said we should vaccinate the third world before boosters.... they're the ones causing the varients... I say it is pure unadulterated hogwash. No one is causing it...it is a natural plague doing its natural thing....outsmarting dumb humans.
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Post by caskur on Feb 21, 2022 17:45:00 GMT 10
The idealogically unvaccinated are not solely assuming the risk. They create a risk to the Community because they will keep this virus continually circulating and presumably mutating. They create a risk to the Community because if they get sick they will be tying up resources that might mean others can't get the help they need. That is unjustifiable. If the vaccine were effective as advertised, that wouldn't be a concern. How do you account for Countries like Israel where they are 100% vaccinated, but the infection rate is still rising? The vaccine was to negate covid-19, not the varients. The virus rules this rodeo. I'm so glad I waited... I am being vaccinated with Novavax on the 15 of March and then get another jab, 3 weeks later...that's it.... I am still going to isolate though.
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Post by Stellar on Feb 22, 2022 8:19:23 GMT 10
Alas! Novavax might not work against the new and scary variant BA.2!
Looks like Mother Nature is not gonna give up on reducing the world population any time soon. Survival of the fittest .... as nature intended.
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Post by caskur on Feb 22, 2022 11:09:10 GMT 10
Alas! Novavax might not work against the new and scary variant BA.2! Looks like Mother Nature is not gonna give up on reducing the world population any time soon. Survival of the fittest .... as nature intended. The fittest isn't a good replacent for the smartest. The smartest should survive.
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Post by Gort on Feb 22, 2022 11:15:53 GMT 10
Speaking of Canada ... I'm reminded of Tony Abbott saying: "Canadia" once upon a time.
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Post by caskur on Feb 22, 2022 13:15:40 GMT 10
Speaking of Canada ... I'm reminded of Tony Abbott saying: "Canadia" once upon a time. please explain this one to me... did he actually say, Canadia?
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Post by caskur on Feb 22, 2022 13:48:34 GMT 10
Alas! Novavax might not work against the new and scary variant BA.2! They just rang me... my injection is being moved to next week...
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Post by Gort on Feb 22, 2022 15:12:36 GMT 10
Speaking of Canada ... I'm reminded of Tony Abbott saying: "Canadia" once upon a time. please explain this one to me... did he actually say, Canadia? Volume is not great but here it is:
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 23, 2022 5:19:02 GMT 10
What Occam is more or less stating is the same as the RW who think that 1% of climate denial science must have 50% equal footing with the 99% of climate change scientist. What science is saying vaccines are no silver bullet they are effective in making people less virulent carriers of Covid-19. The arguments made by the alt right civil libertarians are not fact or reality...they are a fringe group of people who are essentially anti government protestors preying on the less informed...which makes them dangerous group of people. People who think a demagogue populist dictator is more preferable than democracy itself...and they call that fighting for freedom. ... And just like that you falsely stereotype every conservative; yet you feel outraged when you are marginalized and misrepresented. Hypocrite!
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 23, 2022 5:24:04 GMT 10
“It doesn’t matter if you have one shot or ten shots, you can catch COVID,” noted Ontario Premier Doug Ford. “See the Prime Minister had triple shots—and I know hundreds of people who had three shots—and he got COVID.”
The Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford has just blown up Justin Trudeau’s house of cards. In fact he’s just blown up the entire argument for mandates, vaccine passports and restrictions.
Ford is not wrong, but the Trudeau government is showing little sign of backing down.
Why would Trudeau continue to take such draconian measures even as Canada continues to drop the very mandates the truckers are protesting? As economist Ludwig von Mises once pointed out, the central planner cares about one thing above all else, “the exclusive absolute preeminence of his own plan.” (@jamesmelville) February 15, 2022
Trudeau keeps forgetting that he has a minority government. He and his bullshit could be gone tomorrow!
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 23, 2022 5:45:39 GMT 10
Speaking of Canada ... I'm reminded of Tony Abbott saying: "Canadia" once upon a time. please explain this one to me... did he actually say, Canadia? He mispronounced it. Its "Canadistan".
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Post by ponto on Feb 23, 2022 8:44:20 GMT 10
Occam in circles and without fact checking is blindly following the alt rw libertarian line of let covid rip and it will sort itself out which goes against best medical science advice and for these libertarian noisy minority governments taking that advice are all dictators...fucking Trumpian pea brains who happily tale horse anti worming tabs...
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Post by caskur on Feb 23, 2022 21:56:01 GMT 10
please explain this one to me... did he actually say, Canadia? He mispronounced it. Its "Canadistan".
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Post by caskur on Feb 23, 2022 22:02:00 GMT 10
Occam in circles and without fact checking is blindly following the alt rw libertarian line of let covid rip and it will sort itself out which goes against best medical science advice and for these libertarian noisy minority governments taking that advice are all dictators...fucking Trumpian pea brains who happily tale horse anti worming tabs... Governments want to kill off old people... and the handicapped... the luckless depressed too but mostly the luckless depressed are pretty healthy. Damnit!!~
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 23, 2022 23:21:45 GMT 10
Occam in circles and without fact checking is blindly following the alt rw libertarian line of let covid rip and it will sort itself out which goes against best medical science advice and for these libertarian noisy minority governments taking that advice are all dictators...fucking Trumpian pea brains who happily tale horse anti worming tabs... Your impressions like mine, can be and often are, wrong. Since you have expressed no interest in hearing me, I'm just going to leave it at that.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 23, 2022 23:27:55 GMT 10
Occam in circles and without fact checking is blindly following the alt rw libertarian line of let covid rip and it will sort itself out which goes against best medical science advice and for these libertarian noisy minority governments taking that advice are all dictators...fucking Trumpian pea brains who happily tale horse anti worming tabs... Governments want to kill off old people... and the handicapped... the luckless depressed too but mostly the luckless depressed are pretty healthy. Damnit!!~ Doesn't seem to me that the RW are the ones trying to control everyone rn. Change my mind.
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Post by caskur on Feb 24, 2022 2:02:22 GMT 10
Governments want to kill off old people... and the handicapped... the luckless depressed too but mostly the luckless depressed are pretty healthy. Damnit!!~ Doesn't seem to me that the RW are the ones trying to control everyone rn. Change my mind. on public health issues, (like the rona) RW and LW, are on the same board. we have 6 states in Australia, and 2 territories... only 1 state, RW NSW decided to let the virus rip. all the leftie large states like QLD and WA protected us... RW states like SA and Tasmania went along with the LW states.... the states overrided our federal RW government. This is NOT a lw versus rw problem... bloody politics doesn't factor into it. The global governments are taking advice from the medical profession. I will concede though, the medical profession doesn't get it right... this is just one apocalyptic pestilence, the horsemen... it hasn't got one thing to do with politics. Look out for war horsemen... it's the next big thing.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 24, 2022 5:03:34 GMT 10
. Look out for war horsemen... it's the next big thing. Were you also aware Revelation 18:23 refers to a "Great worldwide Deception", that is caused by the "Sorcery" (Gr: "pharmakeia"); which is where we get the word 'pharmaceutical, poison, or medicine'. It also says 'the' which implies it is a thing, not a ritual.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Feb 24, 2022 6:11:26 GMT 10
It is pretty sad that our Prime Minister felt it necessary to call in war protocols to protect himself against a "fringe minority holding unacceptable views " 😆
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Post by ponto on Feb 24, 2022 7:13:06 GMT 10
Noisy fringe fucknuts exaggerating their claims....dumb shit.
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Post by caskur on Feb 24, 2022 7:54:05 GMT 10
. Look out for war horsemen... it's the next big thing. Were you also aware Revelation 18:23 refers to a "Great worldwide Deception", that is caused by the "Sorcery" (Gr: "pharmakeia"); which is where we get the word 'pharmaceutical, poison, or medicine'. It also says 'the' which implies it is a thing, not a ritual. it says the nations are mislead... that is no surprise... People who know the scriptures aren't mislead.... they've been warned of the last days and to rejoice because their deliverence is near. you should be happy not worried about the Wild Beast (political system)...that is going to be distroyed.
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