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Post by Stellar on Feb 1, 2022 12:34:45 GMT 10
She is angry on the behalf of sexual abuse victims, not herself, and ScoMo's failure to act appropriately with victims of sexual abuse. Your advocating sexual abuse is just part of life is a thing of the past. She's been on a personal vendetta since day one. But if your hero gets elected by default, I expect sexual abuse will become a thing of the past! In fact, sexual abuse will no longer be "just a part of life," it will be history. Both you and Tame have made it clear, ScoMo is the problem. Once he's gone, Albo will do the impossible. Simple really.
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Post by caskur on Feb 1, 2022 16:39:42 GMT 10
She is angry on the behalf of sexual abuse victims, not herself, and ScoMo's failure to act appropriately with victims of sexual abuse. Your advocating sexual abuse is just part of life is a thing of the past. She's been on a personal vendetta since day one. But if your hero gets elected by default, I expect sexual abuse will become a thing of the past! In fact, sexual abuse will no longer be "just a part of life," it will be history. Both you and Tame have made it clear, ScoMo is the problem. Once he's gone, Albo will do the impossible. Simple really. haha.... some people make you laugh...
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Post by ponto on Feb 2, 2022 5:59:40 GMT 10
At first my initial response was her angry look wasn't appropriate for a Aussie person of the year at a social function at the Lodge...albeit with fucknut ScoMo...then further looking into as to why she responded in the way she did, her actions were indeed appropriate, given ScoMo's prior lack of action on sexual abuse victims where he had to ask Jenny on how to respond was deemed very chauvinistic.
As Tame is chief spokesperson for sexual abuse victims and for women to make changes the road to take is to maintain the anger....rather than sweep the issue of sexual abuse under the carpet and bury it with statement's like she's a lying cow as you guy's would have because ScoMo missed out on a photo op.
ScoMo will eventually be gone written into to history as a bit of a drongo muppet achieving fuckall but the actions of Grace Tame will live on making changes.
Now you two are conservative to the boots and will not agree, as to be expected, but try to see how fucked up dinosaur thinking conservatism actually is.
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Post by Gort on Feb 2, 2022 9:48:00 GMT 10
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Post by Gort on Feb 2, 2022 10:27:12 GMT 10
It is time to take her angry dial somewhere else. She's left her messages and we're done with the permanent perpetuating victim status these attention seekers crave...get over it. We all have to get over the tragedies in our pasts. Yesterday some 40 yr old Sri Lankan dude murdered his two beautiful children then killed himself in Perth. That is a real tragedy...that is a real tragedy. The mothers screams were horrendous. Send Tame a card or something. There isn't a female alive that hasn't had something she doesn't want forced on her during her life time.... not one. Absolutely. What we need to be focusing on is the sheer number of horrific deaths suffered by females - usually from those misogynistic cultures that the left seem to admire so much. The latest being the poor girl of 19 who was killed and found in a bath of hydrochloric acid!! What sort of a sick perverted mind could carry out this heinous act! Not a crime of passion, but one of planning. Musso of course. Wonder if we'll hear from Grace? Cos it's all ScoMo's fault btw. Absolutely shocking. Looks like an arranged marriage? They only knew each other for a few weeks prior to the marriage? Armina Hayat’s body was discovered in the unit she shared with Meraj Zafar on Pennant Hills Rd, North Parramatta about 4.30pm on Sunday after her family called police concerned about her welfare. No wonder many people wish we had Capital Punishment reintroduced.
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Post by caskur on Feb 2, 2022 13:41:40 GMT 10
We should have the death penalty.... absolutely.
And if not. PROPER WHOLE LIFE SENTENCES.
THESE CREEPS SHOULD NEVER BE LET OUT OF JAIL.
those pricks are on roids...steroids.
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Post by Stellar on Feb 3, 2022 15:33:10 GMT 10
It wasn't an arranged marriage and the parents didn't attend. Sometimes in the media she's referred to as his wife and other times as his girlfriend. All I can say about that is if they were "married" it was a religious one, not a legal one under Australian law. It's Sharia law only to those perverted crims. It allows them the "right" to mistreat their wives and even kill them according to their perverted religion. Apparently neither set of parents were happy about this "marriage" and the parents of Arnima were fearful for her welfare. As well they should. In fact both sets of parents were against the marriage. She was a 2nd year Med student whilst he was only an apprentice builder. That might have been why her parents didn't approve of him. And he appears to be on steroids by the looks of him. Anyway, the upshot is another female muslim woman has been murdered by her scumbag musso husband in the most gruesome and horrific way possible.
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Post by Stellar on Feb 3, 2022 15:42:08 GMT 10
We should have the death penalty.... absolutely. And if not. PROPER WHOLE LIFE SENTENCES. THESE CREEPS SHOULD NEVER BE LET OUT OF JAIL. those pricks are on roids...steroids. Agree about the death penalty. How many gaols can we keep building? And why should we keep feeding these scumbags at enormous expenses when kids go hungry? As for keeping them in gaol all their lives, that'll cost a fortune. They're not worth it - murderers, paedophiles, drug dealers. Just get rid of them and be done with it. The world is already over populated and nothing is sustainable any more, least of all the population. So just line them up against a brick wall and let loose with a machine gun.
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Post by ponto on Feb 3, 2022 18:41:43 GMT 10
Obviously considering age of you people that you all should ask your GP's for a blood test to examine plasma protein build up...
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Post by caskur on Feb 3, 2022 21:32:56 GMT 10
Obviously considering age of you people that you all should ask your GP's for a blood test to examine plasma protein build up... are you now secretly defending a murderer over us upright citizens? give the muzzo a blood test you treasonous and perilous petard of good sense...
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Post by Stellar on Feb 4, 2022 5:43:06 GMT 10
Obviously considering age of you people that you all should ask your GP's for a blood test to examine plasma protein build up... What an odd thing to say. I suppose it's because you have them regularly. ps ... my blood tests are all normal although my blood platelets could be a little lower but still only just over normal levels.
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Post by ponto on Feb 4, 2022 7:44:01 GMT 10
I was being satirical, as you may know checking for plasma protein is checking for dementia/alzheimer's.....the leap from Grace Tame to bring back the death penalty is signs of an inability to remain focused and to be sure the frontal lobes are going.
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Post by Stellar on Feb 4, 2022 10:00:49 GMT 10
Checking plasma proteins is for a whole range of conditions. But for you it follows that if someone disagrees with your opinions, then you believe they must have dementia? Typical of the woke left. There is no "leap" from Grace Tame to bringing back capital punishment. It follows. People - or should I call them sub-humans - have no right to live when they murder others. Especially when that also includes torturing innocent females and children. We shouldn't be wasting money keeping these sub-humans in quite comfortable conditions for 10 or so years when other people are living in cars and on the streets. Children too. And when families of the victims get a life sentence! Let's spend the outrageous amount that it costs to run gaols and use it instead to house those who are unable to secure safe housing. But if we do have to gaol these sub-humans, let's make it an horrendous experience for them. Put them in cages and feed them bread and water. There. Happy? And the reason murderers only get a miserable 10 or so years is because we don't have enough gaols to keep them in. Capital punishment would effectively solve that problem.
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Post by caskur on Feb 4, 2022 15:07:09 GMT 10
I was being satirical, as you may know checking for plasma protein is checking for dementia/alzheimer's.....the leap from Grace Tame to bring back the death penalty is signs of an inability to remain focused and to be sure the frontal lobes are going. You were being a dickhead. end of...
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Post by ponto on Feb 6, 2022 5:01:46 GMT 10
What's Grace Tame go to do with murderer's and capital punishment....?...nuthin'...so what is one to think...? ...sort of logic RWer's come up with.
Next step for the demented RW is to bring back public executions,....for ol' folk entertainment.
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Post by caskur on Feb 6, 2022 13:44:53 GMT 10
What's Grace Tame go to do with murderer's and capital punishment....?...nuthin'...so what is one to think...? ...sort of logic RWer's come up with. Next step for the demented RW is to bring back public executions,....for ol' folk entertainment. rape murder arson used to get the death penalty and rightly so. Grace was raped... her rapist got only 2 years jail. That was a seriously pathetic sentencing. your continual trolling about RW is transparent. RW want just sentences, left whingers want rape legalzed...that is why lefties should never attain power again.
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Post by Stellar on Feb 7, 2022 14:19:46 GMT 10
Yes, this is what she should be carrying on about - pathetic sentencing by the courts. And she should be complaining about the school which was supposed to prevent her from being alone with his creep after her mother complained about his inappropriate attention. Most girls would be screaming their heads off in the same situation where Grace was raped but didn't put up a fight. Maybe that was why the sentence was so inadequate? Because she didn't scream or fight back? And I can't imagine any other girls being taken to the cupboard by their teacher and asked to strip naked like what happened to her. She never reacted in the normal way to such a hideous request.
I have no idea. But these are the issues she needs to address.
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Post by ponto on Feb 7, 2022 18:57:59 GMT 10
One cannot determine what is normal as in Grace Tame's situation ....a shy kid would find it difficult to shout out, predators choose their prey.
Not agreeing with the Death Penalty as the law is an ass and innocent people are killed by mistake or police abusing their power, doesn't equate to agreeing to legalising rape or murder or not recognising there are issues with lenient sentencing.
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Post by caskur on Feb 7, 2022 20:19:00 GMT 10
One cannot determine what is normal as in Grace Tame's situation ....a shy kid would find it difficult to shout out, predators choose their prey. Not agreeing with the Death Penalty as the law is an ass and innocent people are killed by mistake or police abusing their power, doesn't equate to agreeing to legalising rape or murder or not recognising there are issues with lenient sentencing. that is because as a male you do not realise how traumatic rape is. The black women in Southern Africa were screaming for the return of the death penalty to curb the vicious crime perpetuated on women and girls. And while I say that, boys are also preyed upon.
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Post by Stellar on Feb 8, 2022 6:23:57 GMT 10
One cannot determine what is normal as in Grace Tame's situation ....a shy kid would find it difficult to shout out, predators choose their prey. Not agreeing with the Death Penalty as the law is an ass and innocent people are killed by mistake or police abusing their power, doesn't equate to agreeing to legalising rape or murder or not recognising there are issues with lenient sentencing. There was nothing "normal" in Grace Tame's situation. She was bullied at school. She has autism - but high functioning. She married four years ago in the US where she was living. That marriage didn't last long. She appears not to be able to relate to people all that well despite her obvious intelligence. And projecting all her anger and loathing on Scott Morrison for her past abuses just shows she's not able to focus on where she should be projecting that anger! And that's on the school, the perpetrator and the courts. The school didn't give her the protection she should have been given because they knew of this teacher's inappropriate attention but did not take any responsibility for her safety. And the courts just gave him the proverbial smack on the wrist with a pathetic sentence which did nothing to rehabilitate his disgusting attitudes. Personally I think she needs a good psychologist to help her channel this anger into a more productive way of dealing with her past. As an Australian of the Year, I think she was a poor choice. As I said before, there were much better candidates who worked tirelessly to help and reassure the Australian community suffering from pandemics, floods and bushfires. Whilst Grace was on an angry personal mission which has really turned people off rather than rallying them to her cause. Hopefully now she's had her year of ungraceful advocacy, we might not have to see her ever again. And amen to that! Without capital punishment there is no deterrent. Whilst some people say it isn't a deterrent, I think they miss the point. Once the perpetrator is history, there is no chance they will be back on the streets to kill and rape again. Which happens far too often to ignore.
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Post by ponto on Feb 8, 2022 13:22:53 GMT 10
Bottomline is...why should I care if Tame wants to look at ScoMo like he is a lying pentecostal scumbag...she is only looking the truth...?
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Post by pim on Feb 8, 2022 15:24:33 GMT 10
One cannot determine what is normal as in Grace Tame's situation ....a shy kid would find it difficult to shout out, predators choose their prey. Spot on Ponto and highlights one of the central issues of child rape and that’s the loss of agency - or probably more accurately since one of the main features of childhood is the absence of agency, the scumbag who rapes a child prevents her from gaining agency. Stellar takes Grace to task for who she targets: she should have blamed the school, she didn’t put up a fight etc etc. It seems to me that Stellar is looking for reasons to blame shift and suggest by innuendo that Grace is responsible for her own plight. She had no agency in that situation. Nobody asks to be raped and passivity doesn’t mean consent. The fact that she didn’t scream blue murder as a teenager can’t be held against her. The fact that as a woman in her 20s she is calling it out and is seeking as an adult to use her experience as a rape victim to help other rape victims find their own agency in dealing with their experiences is to her immense credit. Grace isn’t the first person to give Scotty Smirk and Mirrors the cold shoulder. Gawd knows he richly deserves being given the cold shoulder. Ask the bushfire victims who refused to shake hands with him. Ask the families of aged care residents who are worried sick at the failure of Scotty Word Salad’s miserable government to keep their loved ones safe. Ask Scotty from Marketing’s colleagues what they think of him. Actually, no need to ask, just read their tweets!
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Post by caskur on Feb 9, 2022 1:59:54 GMT 10
One cannot determine what is normal as in Grace Tame's situation ....a shy kid would find it difficult to shout out, predators choose their prey. Spot on Ponto and highlights one of the central issues of child rape and that’s the loss of agency - or probably more accurately since one of the main features of childhood is the absence of agency, the scumbag who rapes a child prevents her from gaining agency. Stellar takes Grace to task for who she targets: she should have blamed the school, she didn’t put up a fight etc etc. It seems to me that Stellar is looking for reasons to blame shift and suggest by innuendo that Grace is responsible for her own plight. She had no agency in that situation. Nobody asks to be raped and passivity doesn’t mean consent. The fact that she didn’t scream blue murder as a teenager can’t be held against her. The fact that as a woman in her 20s she is calling it out and is seeking as an adult to use her experience as a rape victim to help other rape victims find their own agency in dealing with their experiences is to her immense credit. Grace isn’t the first person to give Scotty Smirk and Mirrors the cold shoulder. Gawd knows he richly deserves being given the cold shoulder. Ask the bushfire victims who refused to shake hands with him. Ask the families of aged care residents who are worried sick at the failure of Scotty Word Salad’s miserable government to keep their loved ones safe. Ask Scotty from Marketing’s colleagues what they think of him. Actually, no need to ask, just read their tweets! What does, "find their own agency mean," to you? See, to me your post on this subject is pure drivel. You put all the onus on the victims to fix their problem. The only fix is just sentencing be that a death sentencing or life for heinous crimes. Innocent Pauline Hanson was given 3 yrs hard labour for crying out loud. And current laws and sentencing are far from just. Scott Morrison did not deserve derision from her and most Australians know it that is why Tame lost popularity. On the bush fire victims, again not Morrison's fault. Blame the arsonist who light the fires... offer $1 mil rewards for turning in a fire bug then jail the A-holes for life. Why do eastern staters love blaming the grubmint for everything and why expect the grubmint to fix all your mental problems?
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Post by ponto on Feb 9, 2022 13:41:55 GMT 10
That's not what Pim implied....that was more Stellar.
What your neglecting in this call for the death penalty for rape is that some will claim rape when there is no rape, and innocent may die as a consequence.
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Post by pim on Feb 9, 2022 15:49:25 GMT 10
You can see that Ponto, and so can I. The fact that Toots totally misunderstands/misrepresents what I posted is not something I can help her with. This is a deranged board. Fruitcake Central. I can't be bothered with the need to forensically parse and slice & dice the meaning of each and every word/sentence in an effort to make clear not just what I mean, but what I don't mean. Toots is loopy. Leave it at that. See you OTR.
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