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Post by pim on Jun 15, 2021 17:59:53 GMT 10
... in the rollout today of SA Labor’s Hydrogen Jobs Plan. I’m still reading the material given to members. But this is visionary stuff. There’s a state election in March and the Marshall Liberal government is on notice that it has a fight on its hands.  |
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Post by ponto on Jun 15, 2021 18:53:09 GMT 10
Good to see Labor has the vison to take my advice.
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Post by caskur on Jun 15, 2021 19:08:33 GMT 10
Do they have a plan making renewables without using fossil fuels?
Haha!
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Post by pim on Jun 15, 2021 19:45:10 GMT 10
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Post by ponto on Jun 15, 2021 20:21:43 GMT 10
There is too much hydrogen in Cascurs head...or is that laughing gas...or both...dinitrogen monoxide...or just monoxide me thinks.
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Post by pim on Jun 15, 2021 23:45:54 GMT 10
Toots is just flatulent from the wrong end.
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Post by caskur on Jun 16, 2021 0:12:16 GMT 10
There is too much hydrogen in Cascurs head...or is that laughing gas...or both...dinitrogen monoxide...or just monoxide me thinks. Or in other words, you cannot do a damn thing without coal fired electricity... check!~ |
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Post by pim on Jun 16, 2021 0:16:58 GMT 10
We could use you as a renewable energy source Toots! You’re the gift that keeps on giving ...
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Post by caskur on Jun 16, 2021 0:31:52 GMT 10
I will keep the bastards honest... honest!!!~
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Post by ponto on Jun 16, 2021 6:19:09 GMT 10
"Keep the bastards honest" ...that's what pseudo conservative Don Chipp said and he was phased out just as coal will be.
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Post by pim on Jun 16, 2021 7:16:56 GMT 10
SA Labor releases Hydrogen Jobs Plan esdnews.com.au/sa-labor-releases-hydrogen-jobs-plan/South Australia’s Opposition Labor Party has today announced its Hydrogen Jobs Plan, which has been welcomed by The Australia Institute and Australian Hydrogen Council. The Plan involves building a 200MW hydrogen-fuelled power station to provide firming capacity in the South Australian Electricity Market, utilising hydrogen electrolysers which are able to be used as a form of energy storage through the regulation of their production. Labor says in its Hydrogen Plan that it will: 1. build 250MWe capacity of hydrogen electrolysers 2. build a new 200MW Combined Cycle Turbine powered by the hydrogen produced by the electrolysers 3. build hydrogen storage capacity capable of holding 3600 tonnes of hydrogen 4. establish Hydrogen Power SA, a government owned enterprise to offer a firming service to renewable generation facilities in SA 5. ensure projects are operational by 2025. Australian Hydrogen Council CEO Dr Fiona Simon congratulated the State Labor Opposition party on its Hydrogen Jobs Plan, “for its vision for an energy future powered by hydrogen”. “This plan has a clear focus on putting policy in place to secure jobs of the future, increase the state’s energy independence and reduce carbon emissions,” Dr Simon said. “South Australia is a renewable powerhouse with an ambitious renewables agenda to reduce emissions and lower electricity prices for consumers and industrial users. Hydrogen can step in and help South Australia achieve its vision by firming electricity supply, reducing emissions from industries such as transport and manufacturing, and creating a new export industry.” The Australia Institute SA director Noah Schultz-Byard said, “Clean sources of power, including green hydrogen produced from 100 per cent renewable electricity, are the future of energy. Putting South Australia at the centre of the global energy transition is the smart thing to do. South Australia is already a leader in renewable energy and, by committing to funding exclusively green hydrogen, the state is now leading the nation once again. Other jurisdictions, including the Federal Government, have so far failed to rule out the funding of dirty, fossil fuelled hydrogen power. If they don’t catch up with South Australia and start to invest in the clean energy technologies of the future soon, they will be left behind.”
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Post by ponto on Jun 16, 2021 8:53:27 GMT 10
By 2025...WOW..far out and solid.
Coal..?...coal who as people will go where the jobs are.
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Post by Stellar on Jun 16, 2021 12:42:31 GMT 10
Do they have a plan making renewables without using fossil fuels? Haha! Wind and solar facilities cannot be manufactured or used to generate electricity without fossil fuels! Simple fact. You can try to explain this to the dickheads but you're just talking to their butts whilst their heads are very firmly planted in the sand.  |
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Post by Stellar on Jun 16, 2021 12:48:14 GMT 10
By 2025...WOW..far out and solid. Coal..?...coal who as people will go where the jobs are. China is the world's biggest polluter. Whilst they might have been taking some dramatic steps to clean up and fight climate change on home soil, they have just moved their pollution problems to the third world.   New China coal mine in Pakistan So why are they also building hundreds of coal-fired power plants in other countries? Maybe you, Ponto, as the mouthpiece for the CCP in Australia, can answer that? Or do you think that is a very clever strategy? |
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Post by Gort on Jun 16, 2021 12:57:53 GMT 10
Do they have a plan making renewables without using fossil fuels? Haha! Wind and solar facilities cannot be manufactured or used to generate electricity without fossil fuels! Simple fact. You can try to explain this to the dickheads but you're just talking to their butts whilst their heads are very firmly planted in the sand.  Maybe they are OK - being like this type of turtle?  The white-throated snapping turtle breathes through its backside in a process is known as cloacal respiration.(ABC Brisbane: Jessica Hinchliffe)  |
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Post by ponto on Jun 16, 2021 16:55:10 GMT 10
Here's a good news story about a means to cut greenhouse gases with hydrogen technology and in come the dinosaur RW arse clowns to shit on the topic with burn more coal we love it ideology and its all China fault for being big polluters....dumb as.
Wind and solar is used to help cut emissions by lessening the need to burn coal, as once once wind turbines and solar panels are up and running they emit nothing and generate power, and relatively quickly hydrogen will be used to replace coal in power stations if Labor wins office, this will not happen under the no vison dinosaur fossil headed coalition.
China will be forced to cut its emissions and dependence on coal as the growing clean emission cutting countries will place a heavy economic burden on China's products if they don't...the country will be shunned as any country hat is not actively reducing emissions as time is running out to act and keep global temps from rosing above 2 deg.
It was the RW think tanks that claimed Covid 19 was just a common ol' flu...and how wrong they were as always wrong, they just use alt truths to convince themselves they are right even when wrong,
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Post by Stellar on Jun 17, 2021 10:56:25 GMT 10
You have totally ignored the fact that China is moving their pollution problems off shore. Is it okay or is it NOT okay to build hundreds of coal fired power plants in third world countries? Just answer that question. Because you're getting very hypocritical over this issue. |
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Post by ponto on Jun 17, 2021 17:27:07 GMT 10
China's coal power use is complex as it has an oversupply of stations with consumption falling that equates to stations are losing money. Why..because its coal ideologically driven within the Commo Party ignoring what their own experts are telling them its a failure in the making.
Ilogical and somewaht like the coalitions ideology of those in the party under the banner its good for the nation wanting to build new coal power stations in Australia while forcing private business to invest in coal when business see no future in coal....doesn't make sense.
How does one expalin that coal thinking other than fuckwitism when the human race has become frogs in a heating pot.
Hypocritical to say China is bad when Australia is the biggest exporter of coal and increasing mining.
As eluded to earleir the significant trading partners with China the wealthy nations of Europe, America and Japan will have border taxes on high carbon produced products. Result will be China will be forced to reduce its emissions or pay the price economically, as with Australia, or any other nations that fails net zero redcutions.
Also after the G7 meeting these countruies have plans to help poor nations shift to renewable energy that counters China's off shore coal power stations.
Green Hydrogen is the future energy source where the nations that can produce it most cost eefecitvely, such as Australia with plenty of sunshine, they will be the winners economically.
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