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Post by matte on May 2, 2021 22:44:11 GMT 10
Caitlyn Jenner, candidate for California Governor, says that it is an issue of fairness and that trans girls, who were born as males, should be banned from girls sports.
Do you think this is fair?
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Post by caskur on May 2, 2021 23:19:39 GMT 10
Trans women should not be allowed in female sports.
They should have separate events for them, THAT is fair.
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Post by ponto on May 3, 2021 0:40:01 GMT 10
When female sport players don't mind playing with trans why should you care ...
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Post by caskur on May 3, 2021 1:29:28 GMT 10
When female sport players don't mind playing with trans why should you care ... Well there are real women who had high testosterone levels that were banned from participating. They had to chemically lower their testosterone levels before they could compete. I care because all this is, is another stunt by freaks who are trying to shove their freak in our direction.
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Post by ponto on May 3, 2021 2:20:06 GMT 10
The lowering high testosterone applies to trans as well.
Trans are people....just like you and me but all in one having the best of both worlds...now when they mutate people to have 3 legs to play in sports...then moan about it.
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Post by caskur on May 3, 2021 4:32:47 GMT 10
You're entitled to your opinion...
I hope the girls quit sport then, if that type of evil is allowed to infest female sport....
Notice how males sports aren't affected....
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Post by ponto on May 3, 2021 6:45:56 GMT 10
Trans are in number 0.003%of the population....and 3% of them have the urge to play sports and less to an elite level....no big deal...and I'm sure Jesus would embrace Trans as he did with all people, lepers, prostitutes saying the rich are the evil ones.
The big evil is the conservatives embracing the rich so that they can maintain destroying Gods planet.
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Post by Stellar on May 3, 2021 7:39:49 GMT 10
Oh for god's sake Ponto! Your obsession with conservatives has become so extreme, you're no longer capable of talking about anything logically. Trans females do have an advantage physically over normal women. Allowing them to compete amongst women is definitely moving the goal posts. It's not fair and surely anyone changing their genders should not expect that the rules are changed just for them.
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Post by ponto on May 3, 2021 8:38:44 GMT 10
Conservatives are an extreme element and dangerous...and evil which was the point to Cas.
Why does it have to be black and white stereo types in such a short life....its similar to art while there are limitations people should be free to express themselves. If I see a trans or a flamboyant gay person it doesn't bother me, in fact makes me smile adds a bit of colour.
A redneck wanting and waving automatic weapons as in the RW proud boys etc I see as an evil threat to society.
Trans sport people have to to take female hormones for a number of years before they can play with women and considering the numbers involved I am not in the business of persecuting people nor should anyone else.
People lose sight of the fact sport is suppose to be a game not a business.
Will draw the line at teaching young kids the LBGTQIA sex notion of sex education...they can leave that out until a older age in high school.
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Post by matte on May 3, 2021 8:50:16 GMT 10
Oh for god's sake Ponto! Your obsession with conservatives has become so extreme, you're no longer capable of talking about anything logically. Trans females do have an advantage physically over normal women. Allowing them to compete amongst women is definitely moving the goal posts. It's not fair and surely anyone changing their genders should not expect that the rules are changed just for them. Yes he is very obsessed with conservatives. It is unbelievable how he is consumed by it. But this is the world we live in where woke-left adults take advice from children like Greta Thunberg.
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Post by pim on May 3, 2021 12:38:01 GMT 10
Lol at Stellar, Matt and Caskur lecturing Ponto on his "obsession" with conservatives. Should we start on your obsessions with anyone who doesn't fit your very narrow racial/cultural paradigms?
Where to start ... That's the problem. So much bigotry ... so little time ...
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Post by Stellar on May 3, 2021 12:43:45 GMT 10
On the contrary - I am not obsessed by politics. In fact between you and Ponto that's basically all you go on about. You'll both end up with ulcers at the rate you're stressing out over conservatives. The biggest laugh is that they keep being elected and that really seems to do your collective heads in.
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Post by Stellar on May 3, 2021 12:53:56 GMT 10
Rachel McKinnon, (centre) a transgender woman, won the UCI Masters Track World Championship title in October. Jen Wagner-Assali on the left who finished third called it unfair and wants cycling's international governing body to change its rules. Others have said further examples may threaten the participation of women in sport and I don't blame them. You can see the obvious difference in body shape and size ... And there are those who say McKinnon should never have been on the podium in California in the first place. Critics say it is unfair to have a trans woman competing in female sport with a biologically male body, though McKinnon says that view goes against point four of the International Olympic Committee charter, which says: "The practice of sport is a human right." However if that is the case, why even bother to have separate male and female events? And really, can anyone see the bleedin' obvious with this pic! For those like Ponto who see no problem, that's Hannah Mouncey on the right in the Australian women's handball team. But yeah, there's no physical advantage according to the leftist loonies who inhabit this board.
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Post by ponto on May 3, 2021 13:58:22 GMT 10
As a citizen I care that conservative governments are deceiving the people not only with climate change but also on their neo liberal ideology of business first and then it trickles down to the workers.
I have been banging on about climate change since 1999 when I first found MSN message boards long before Greta Thunberg who wasn't even born...and our chief moderator Jody back then telling all on NOCC to shun me as a social outcast for posting about climate change (some things you don't forget)....left and right back in those days didn't want to know.
Except now rather stupidly it being the RW who still refuse to accept the reality of climate change and now all they have is being smart alec's who don't know jackshit thinking they are clever.
Obsessed you say....to damn right as back in 1999 I will continue to bang on about neoliberalism and its inherent corruption of deceiving and manipulating the people.
Trans people are square pegs trying to fit into a round hole (< no connotation's implied)....sports is about being inclusive and dare say there will be in the future...given men are becoming more girlie like and women more Amazonian and Trans gender they will all be playing as one...inclusively.
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Post by caskur on May 3, 2021 14:16:33 GMT 10
Oh for god's sake Ponto! Your obsession with conservatives has become so extreme, you're no longer capable of talking about anything logically. Trans females do have an advantage physically over normal women. Allowing them to compete amongst women is definitely moving the goal posts. It's not fair and surely anyone changing their genders should not expect that the rules are changed just for them. Yes he is very obsessed with conservatives. It is unbelievable how he is consumed by it. But this is the world we live in where woke-left adults take advice from children like Greta Thunberg. And no one else is allowed to take drugs in sport but trans are. Jenner is correct. Jenner is an Olympic gold medalist and knows what he is talking about. He knows girls will drop out of sport because the lunatics are taking over. And good for him for saying so.
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Post by caskur on May 3, 2021 14:27:39 GMT 10
As a citizen I care that conservative governments are deceiving the people not only with climate change but also on their neo liberal ideology of business first and then it trickles down to the workers. I have been banging on about climate change since 1999 when I first found MSN message boards long before Greta Thunberg who wasn't even born...and our chief moderator Jody back then telling all on NOCC to shun me as a social outcast for posting about climate change (some things you don't forget)....left and right back in those days didn't want to know. Except now rather stupidly it being the RW who still refuse to accept the reality of climate change and now all they have is being smart alec's who don't know jackshit thinking they are clever. Obsessed you say....to damn right as back in 1999 I will continue to bang on about neoliberalism and its inherent corruption of deceiving and manipulating the people. Trans people are square pegs trying to fit into a round hole (< no connotation's implied)....sports is about being inclusive and dare say there will be in the future...given men are becoming more girlie like and women more Amazonian and Trans gender they will all be playing as one...inclusively. Your post is off topic and nothing to do about this thread which is really about woman abuse. The global warming subject has been around for 40 years that I know. It is also a 2 thousand yr bible prediction.
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Post by pim on May 3, 2021 14:29:14 GMT 10
Yes he is very obsessed with conservatives. It is unbelievable how he is consumed by it. But this is the world we live in where woke-left adults take advice from children like Greta Thunberg. And no one else is allowed to take drugs in sport but trans are. And Matt!! He even channels Greta Thunberg! Mind you he needs to work on his "How Dare You!" - not enough outrage!
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Post by caskur on May 3, 2021 14:36:14 GMT 10
On the contrary - I am not obsessed by politics. In fact between you and Ponto that's basically all you go on about. You'll both end up with ulcers at the rate you're stressing out over conservatives. The biggest laugh is that they keep being elected and that really seems to do your collective heads in. And they are very misguided SJW and so fall under the unbalanced far left group and don't realise the damage they do.
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Post by ponto on May 3, 2021 15:03:31 GMT 10
And such is the conservative thinking...climate change cannot possibly be man made.
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Post by pim on May 3, 2021 15:29:15 GMT 10
And such is the conservative thinking...climate change cannot possibly be man made. I can't believe we're still stuck on that stupid "is climate change for real" thing. What do you do with someone who argues in the face of all evidence to the contrary that: 1. The world is flat 2. The Book of Genesis is a true historical record 3. Smoking is good for you 4. Squares are circles 5. Climate change is crap. As I heard in a podcast this morning, the time for climate change seminars is over. The real conversation to be having is what to do about it. And to those who insist on being stuck on "stupid", get out of the fucking way!
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Post by caskur on May 3, 2021 15:45:10 GMT 10
Two idiots permanently stuck on stupid....
Are your nappies due for changing...?
*rolls eyes*
stupid old bastrds!!!
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Post by ponto on May 3, 2021 18:36:59 GMT 10
Ooooo hit a nerve....
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Post by bender on May 3, 2021 19:34:26 GMT 10
I don't believe that trans people should be banned from taking part in sports as their identified gender. This does however create some risk at a time when women's contact sports are entering a new, professional era.
It may be that players must conform to weight classes. This is what they do in some junior football codes for boys to avoid the situation where an abnormally large child can totally dominate a match, and create an undue risk of injury to the opposing players. It still allows everyone to take part but evens up the competition.
Every year, every code goes into their off season, reviews the previous season and comes up with rule changes that either disallow a tactic that is giving some sides an undue advantage, or introduces rules that (hopefully) make the game better in some way.
They're going to have to come up with a way of dealing with this issue like any other. My advise would be to look at options but not actually do anything until you actually see it being a problem. It may be that the game itself adapts.
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Post by caskur on May 3, 2021 19:53:49 GMT 10
I don't believe that trans people should be banned from taking part in sports as their identified gender. . Did you read the whole thread? So you support abusing females in competitive sport by putting them up against men do you? What's your other hobby, beating your SO on weekend benders?
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Post by matte on May 7, 2021 7:48:02 GMT 10
This identity politics is weakening Australian and western society. While we focus on all of this identity politics stuff, our enemies prepare.
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