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Post by caskur on May 25, 2021 20:24:57 GMT 10
Trumps election was stolen from him, covid is a communist plot, riots on Capitol hill is nothing but Democrat fake news as it didn't happen and so on the media is picking on poor ol' Trump as if Murdoch has been honest reporting on Biden.....don't you think its time to give up on the alt right conspiracy theories..? How about you fixing your broken record. Leftist media LIE and that is disgusting. This is how you fix it,... STOP LYING.
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Post by ponto on May 25, 2021 21:10:19 GMT 10
Show me the lies in what I stated...Trump claimed the election was stolen from him...TRUE....for the alt right Covid is a commo plot...TRUE...Riots on Capitol Hill claimed by the alt right to be a democrat altered video...TRUE....Murdoch press the most biased media going ...TRUE...for the alt right is LW media lies to speak the truth, give us a break from the alt right stupidity.
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Post by Occam's Spork on May 26, 2021 10:31:50 GMT 10
Show me the lies in what I stated...Trump claimed the election was stolen from him...TRUE....for the alt right Covid is a commo plot...TRUE...Riots on Capitol Hill claimed by the alt right to be a democrat altered video...TRUE....Murdoch press the most biased media going ...TRUE...for the alt right is LW media lies to speak the truth, give us a break from the alt right stupidity. More important that finding the truth–is finding the reason why one needs to lie. ...And the media has been caught lying. If you can't see that, you haven't been paying attention.
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Post by ponto on May 26, 2021 14:26:39 GMT 10
You say nothing of the RW lies in the media, recall the crap they come out with denigrating Obama is forgotten, as one eg;... and for the RW media its make mnts out of molehills of the LW media and ignore the Mountains of dangerous crap from RW media and what RW politics create.
So quick run along there must be more anti vaxxer alt right shit to chase down....
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Post by pim on May 26, 2021 14:36:37 GMT 10
Not to mention some “moon landings were fake” snake oil to peddle.
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Post by matte on May 26, 2021 18:20:00 GMT 10
The Australian Broadcasting Corporation wasting taxpayer money by paying a violent left-winged activist for sensational footage of the riot.
ABC paid Capitol rioter for footage to ‘boost ratings’: Eric Abetz
26 MAY 2021
SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA
Liberal Senator Eric Abetz has accused the ABC of deliberately paying a violent left-wing activist for his footage of the Capitol Hill riots for the sake of “sensationalism” and boosting ratings.
Remittance advice from the ABC shows the national broadcaster spent taxpayer funds to buy footage of the January 6 Capitol Hill riots from rioter and anti-Trump activist John Sullivan.
Mr Sullivan was indicted in February by a federal grand jury on six charges including obstruction of a civil proceeding, civil disorder, and disorderly conduct.
The ABC purchased the right to use the footage from Mr Sullivan after the self-professed anti-Trump activist had been charged.
ABC Managing Director David Anderson said the Four Corners team knew Mr Sullivan was charged with the offence when the program went to air, but maintained the footage was crucial for the sake of the show.
“You’re willing to pay a criminal and someone who was deliberately inciting the crowd just for sensationalism, for ABC ratings,” Mr Abetz asked.
“Isn’t there a moral compass you apply to this even if you do want that footage.
“That’s not the standard I would expect from our national broadcaster.”
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Post by matte on May 26, 2021 19:26:56 GMT 10
I think the ABC broadcasting licence should be put up for auction.
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Post by Occam's Spork on May 27, 2021 2:29:24 GMT 10
You say nothing of the RW lies in the media, recall the crap they come out with denigrating Obama is forgotten, as one eg;... and for the RW media its make mnts out of molehills of the LW media and ignore the Mountains of dangerous crap from RW media and what RW politics create. So quick run along there must be more anti vaxxer alt right shit to chase down.... Deflection. Media has more influence, thus more culpability. No one cares for the opinions of an ex-president.
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Post by ponto on May 27, 2021 3:37:53 GMT 10
You deflect to all left wing media biased and RW media all good positive news, and then you cannot bring yourself to say President Obama where his opinion was not mentioned it was his appalling treatment by RW media that was ...in short alt right logic is just bullshit.
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Post by Occam's Spork on May 27, 2021 4:48:01 GMT 10
You deflect to all left wing media biased and RW media all good positive news, and then you cannot bring yourself to say President Obama where his opinion was not mentioned it was his appalling treatment by RW media that was ...in short alt right logic is just bullshit. I could the same of you. Truth doesn't care about your political affiliation: If I were to say that the RW says the "sky is blue" and "water is wet." Would you dismiss it as a conspiracy theory or a hoax just because it came from an individual who was conservative? If you would, then you are brainwashed and you don't even realize it. Political discrimination can be just as ignorant as any other form of discrimination. I recall a fuss by the LW, back in 2016. Where conspiracy theories abounded about the election results being influenced by Russia... Even if--So what? That doesn't absolve the media from what they are doing here and now. PS: I actually supported Obama during his campaign. I guess you don't know me as well as you think.
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Post by ponto on May 27, 2021 15:21:30 GMT 10
The sky is blue, (when its not cloudy) and water is wet something that cannot be disputed....just as covid is real and nasty flu, the riots on Capitol Hill was real and you can say you supported Obama...how should I know you did or didn't that is just saying something that I in particual cannot prove.....and round and round it goes denying the alt right are dangerous people.
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Post by caskur on May 27, 2021 20:04:13 GMT 10
The sky is blue, (when ist not cloudy) and water is wet something that cannot be disputed....just as covid is real and nasty flu, the riots on Capitol Hill was real and you can say you supported Obama...how should I know you did or didn't that is just saying something that I in particual cannot prove.....and round and round it goes denying the alt right are dangerous people. The alt right indeed wants leftists dead. They write it every day at sites I visit.
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Post by ponto on May 27, 2021 20:21:05 GMT 10
If no one visited their sites then their opinions would drop dead.
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Post by caskur on May 27, 2021 21:46:02 GMT 10
If no one visited their sites then their opinions would drop dead. they really really hate lefties and see them as hypocrites. They think lefties are killing the world with their extreme idiocy. Like me they want all criminals, especially sex offenders put to death. What else do you have to say?
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Post by Occam's Spork on May 28, 2021 10:01:55 GMT 10
If no one visited their sites then their opinions would drop dead. they really really hate lefties and see them as hypocrites. They think lefties are killing the world with their extreme idiocy. Like me they want all criminals, especially sex offenders put to death. What else do you have to say? Cancel culture is the brainchild of the left. They have made a practice of getting offended about every little thing.
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Post by pim on May 28, 2021 10:17:24 GMT 10
they really really hate lefties and see them as hypocrites. They think lefties are killing the world with their extreme idiocy. Like me they want all criminals, especially sex offenders put to death. What else do you have to say? Cancel culture is the brainchild of the left. They have made a practice of getting offended about every little thing. Matt spams the board as the dishevelled hair, wild-eyed, spittle-flecked, arms waving Voice of Outrage and Hysteria about Everything and you make that sort of sweeping claim about an ill-defined bunch you choose to characterise generically as “the left”?
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Post by Occam's Spork on May 28, 2021 10:25:04 GMT 10
Cancel culture is the brainchild of the left. They have made a practice of getting offended about every little thing. Matt spams the board as the dishevelled hair, wild-eyed, spittle-flecked, arms waving Voice of Outrage and Hysteria about Everything and you make that sort of sweeping claim about an ill-defined bunch you choose to characterise generically as “the left”? Not all left. Just the loud 'virtue signalling' ones.
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Post by pim on May 28, 2021 10:32:30 GMT 10
Oh I see, there’s the “loud” left and then there’s the “quiet” left. What’s this? The only good leftist is a quiet one? Wow! So it’s ok to hold a point of view, just don’t advocate it. And as a whitefella living in a similar New World settler society to your own there’s something vaguely and unsettlingly familiar about “the only good ... (insert generic name for targeted group) ... is a dead quiet ...”
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Post by Occam's Spork on May 28, 2021 13:22:06 GMT 10
Oh I see, there’s the “loud” left and then there’s the “quiet” left. What’s this? The only good leftist is a quiet one? Wow! So it’s ok to hold a point of view, just don’t advocate it. And as a whitefella living in a similar New World settler society to your own there’s something vaguely and unsettlingly familiar about “the only good ... (insert generic name for targeted group) ... is a dead quiet ...” There are liberals, and there are leftists. And there is no such thing as a quiet leftist in my realm of experience.
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Post by pim on May 28, 2021 16:35:04 GMT 10
Oh I see, there’s the “loud” left and then there’s the “quiet” left. What’s this? The only good leftist is a quiet one? Wow! So it’s ok to hold a point of view, just don’t advocate it. And as a whitefella living in a similar New World settler society to your own there’s something vaguely and unsettlingly familiar about “the only good ... (insert generic name for targeted group) ... is a dead quiet ...” There are liberals, and there are leftists. And there is no such thing as a quiet leftist in my realm of experience. I know what you mean by "liberals". The term isn't used in that way Down Under (not a criticism of you, just clarifying!) because the major Australian party that occupies the same territory on the ideological spectrum as the Republicans in the US is called the Liberal Party. If we want to say "liberal" and want to make it clear that we don't mean "Liberal" we say "small /l/ liberal" which is a very clunky phrase and we don't use it a lot. The Australian Liberals (capital L) have been captured by the climate change denying, fossil fuel-addicted Trumpesque far Right so anything that smacks of "liberal" (small /l/ in your sense of the word) is immediately dismissed by the Morrison government and their media arm, the Murdoch Empire, as "left wing". So I like that you distinguish between "liberal" and "left". It's kinda refreshing. There are "liberals" in Australian politics. These are the centrist non-party Independent members of parliament that have stood for election in constituencies that had been held by ultra conservative Liberal Party members, and defeated them. Their numbers are growing and we might see more of them after the next elections, scheduled for next year but which might possibly be brought forward to later this year. Australian Labor tends to be left-liberal which is broadly where I stand on the spectrum, and is regularly outflanked on the left by a protest party called the Greens which seems to have stabilised at about 10% of the popular vote. They'll never form a government. I agree with you that there is no such thing as a "quiet" leftist and neither should there be. "Quiet leftist" is a contradiction in terms. Mind you there used to be a guy named Peter Cundall who, until his retirement, had a very popular show on the public TV channel the ABC called "Gardening Australia". It was the most non-political show you could imagine. Peter Cundall had a Manchester (UK) accent you could cut with a knife and every week he'd show you gardens and explain what to plant, where and when. It was very popular and was compulsory viewing for anyone wanting to get a garden growing in their back yard. Or front yard for that matter. He was interviewed after his retirement and it turned out that he'd been a lifelong card-carrying member of the Communist Party. You'd never have known. He'd speak volumes about roses and when to start planting your herb garden, but never about politics. He's the only "quiet leftist" I've ever known about.
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Post by pim on Jun 14, 2021 6:32:29 GMT 10
Hillary Clinton’s Emails Invaded Capitol, Trump Supporters Claimwww.theshovel.com.au/2021/01/09/hillary-clintons-emails-invaded-capitol-trump-supporters-claim/Hillary Clinton’s emails fiendishly made up to look like Trump supporters storming the US Capitol on January 6The mob who smashed windows and doors and broke into the Capitol building this week were not Trump supporters, but rather a collection of cleverly-disguised emails from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the President’s supporters say. “You think it was us who did it?” one Trump supporter said. “Look closely at the footage and you’ll see that those are not Trump supporters, they are emails dressed up to look like Trump supporters. “They may be wearing Trump t-shirts and holding Confederate flags, but they’re her emails alright. The email server was there too – directing the whole thing”. Another supporter said he saw the events unfold with his own eyes. “I saw a group of Hillary’s emails walk up to the building, storm past police, smash through the doors and then walk out with a podium. It was definitely the emails. Imagine if she had become President”.
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Post by ponto on Jun 14, 2021 6:55:52 GMT 10
I was listening to leader of the Australian Greens Adam Bandt on insiders the other day on vaccine roll out, refugees and conservatives beating the drum of war on China....he was good and clear with no ambiguity so wouldn't write the Greens off, lot of disgruntled Labor voters out there with the party going all small l Liberal.
If you have time have a squiz...https://www.abc.net.au/insiders/greens-leader-adam-bandt/13386334
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Post by caskur on Jun 14, 2021 16:02:25 GMT 10
China needs to pay for their breakable rubbish products.
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