US Navy destroyer challenges China's SCS claims

[matte]

We need to see more of this and probably need to see a permanent U.S. base set up in Taiwan :-)

It is time the free world really stuck it to China and gave them the finger.

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A US Navy destroyer challenged China's sweeping South China Sea claims a day after sailing past Taiwan


Ryan Pickrell
Feb 6, 2021

BUSINESS INSIDER

A US warship sailed on Friday near Chinese-controlled islands in the South China Sea, challenging Beijing's sweeping territorial claims for the first time under the Biden administration.

The Navy Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS John S. McCain sailed near the disputed Paracel Islands during a routine freedom-of-navigation operation (FONOP) to "assert navigational rights and freedoms," Lt. Joe Keiley, a 7th Fleet spokesman, said in a statement Friday.

Full story: www.businessinsider.com/us-destroyer-mccain-fonop-biden-china-south-china-sea-2021-2

[ponto]

The US is mad with provocation as a distraction.

[pim]

Why should the Pacific Ocean be forever assumed to be an American lake? As for the South China Sea, if the Americans claim the right to their Monroe Doctrine in the American hemisphere, including the Caribbean, why shouldn’t the Chinese do the same in relation to the South China Sea?

As for Taiwan I believe it still officially calls itself the Republic of China and as the successor regime to the Kuomintang of Chiang Kai Shek has never renounced its 1949 claim to be the legitimate and legal government of all of China. When it set up in Taiwan in 1949 it declared that as Taiwan was part of China it was exercising its legal and sovereign rights on Chinese territory. It was most insistent that it was not a government in exile. So you see both Beijing and Taipei claim that Taiwan is part of China. If you want the Americans to set up a base on Taiwan first the regime in Taipei would have to abandon its pretensions to be a Chinese national government and declare UDI - which would mean war.

China is to the early 21st century what Imperial Germany was at the beginning of the 20th century. WW1 was a most avoidable war. Germany united as a nation quite late in the piece, in 1870, and within 20 years its phenomenal industrialisation and economic expansion, comparable with China in the late 20th century, meant it started jostling with the established imperial powers of France and Britain for a slice of the global action. “Make room for us!” it said to the French and British. “Non!” said the French. “Sorry old boy but all the seats are taken I’m afraid” said the British. The result was WW1 and its sequel, WW2. Have we learned nothing from history?

[ponto]

The US has 31 military attack bases on Okinawa Island Japan which is close to China as it could be....there is much anti US bases as yanks rape kids nd the noise from the bases intimidate the local who remember vivid the world war years.

The US is bullying the world.

[Stellar]

You're starting to sound totally unhinged Ponto.  Time to take a sedative and have a rest.  

Honestly though, you're living in the wrong country.  I'm sure you'd be much happier living in China - not that they'd have you, but you'd be their greatest champion ... or is that apologist?  

[matte]

China has NEVER had a claim over the island of Taiwan.

If anything, Japan has more of a claim.

[pim]

Yes Matt, the Japanese were in Taiwan from 1895 to 1945. As invaders. How do you rate their chances of pressing any claim to Japanese sovereignty? Are they in fact doing so? Do you really want to get into the history of Taiwan? If anything the indigenous Taiwanese language belongs to the Austronesian family and therefore has more in common with Tagalog in the Philippines and Bahasa Malaysia/Indonesia.

Your baseless statement which is Trumpesque in its “fake history” that the Chinese have never had a claim over the island of Taiwan would be rejected not only by Beijing but also by the regime in Taipei which is the seat of government of the successor regime to the Kuomintang which based itself there in 1949 claiming as it did so that as the legal government of the Republic of China (which it had been until defeated by the Maoists who declared the establishment of the People’s Republic of China in the same year) it was exercising legal jurisdiction over sovereign Chinese territory.

Them’s the facts, Matt.

[ponto]

A case of civil ignorance by Matte and Stellar....Trump stirred the pot over Taiwan by not acknowledging a long standing US policy of One China policy...provocation.

You're starting to sound totally unhinged Ponto. Time to take a sedative and have a rest.



Honestly though, you're living in the wrong country. I'm sure you'd be much happier living in China - not that they'd have you, but you'd be their greatest champion ... or is that apologist?

No Ponto keeps his head, you being all pro US and anti China do not like the reality of what is being said as it conflicts with your absurd China is taking over the world fear mongering, and as you cannot debate the facts I stated so you want me to go away as I must be a commo....I'm sure you would like to see Australia as a dictatorship of RW rule where people like me have no level headed reality check say..