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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 10, 2021 22:18:30 GMT 10
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 10, 2021 22:21:23 GMT 10
And if you are defining a baby by capabilities, let me remind you that we call them human beings, not human doings.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 10, 2021 22:36:52 GMT 10
So you're happy that in rape cases, a woman would be subjected to an annual reminder of being violated each birthday anniversary for maybe 70 years? In the USA, rapist can get custody rights. You can google it. I believe that Americans are WORSE than the taliban, I fool you not. I do not know HOW women in the USA are still so grossly subservient. Maybe it's because men own guns and if a woman behaves out of her place, they'll shoot her. They haven't evolved. Careful that you aren't believing in propaganda. This certainly isn't true where I am from.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 10, 2021 22:38:30 GMT 10
Your fucked in the head seriously...who is carrying the baby...is it a male...?? Back to biblical times a women is a mans chattel...baby producing machines. Saw a doco about "Christians" in the USA telling women the WO of WOMEN means, THE WOMB OF MAN. They still believe it. Lol, I'm pretty certain Adam and Eve didn't speak in 16th century English...
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 10, 2021 22:43:18 GMT 10
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 11, 2021 23:27:16 GMT 10
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Post by pim on Aug 12, 2021 0:01:26 GMT 10
It’s “squeamish”. Just trying to help ...
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Post by caskur on Aug 12, 2021 3:43:11 GMT 10
Saw a doco about "Christians" in the USA telling women the WO of WOMEN means, THE WOMB OF MAN. They still believe it. Lol, I'm pretty certain Adam and Eve didn't speak in 16th century English... Adam and Eve weren't Christians. I am not sure what anything I wrote has annything to do with the 16th century.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 12, 2021 4:45:27 GMT 10
Lol, I'm pretty certain Adam and Eve didn't speak in 16th century English... Adam and Eve weren't Christians. I am not sure what anything I wrote has annything to do with the 16th century. I agree, they were not. And neither were any one up to the time of Christ's birth. So you should probably not accept their classical definition.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 12, 2021 4:49:41 GMT 10
It’s “squeamish”. Just trying to help ... Grammar Nazi.
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Post by ponto on Aug 12, 2021 5:22:18 GMT 10
Countries where abortion is legal also have the lowest abortion rates, Mexico the lowest with 0.1 per thousand women..which then makes the issue the best methods to reduce abortion rates which is also a pro choice objective.
Patriarchal prohibition where women are not expected to think for themselves, have no expectations in education and jobs, who are just on the planet to be mothers, as women will seek abortion mostly because they cannot afford to have children interfering with careers and education,
Prohibition reduces women to backyard clinics resulting in infections, serious health issues and possible mortality rather than a safe hygienic clinic.
Pro-lifers ignore that as the women has no rights with their own bodies the undeveloped foetus has more roghts.
Family planning clinics offer a range of services to women, including education and contraceptive advice with women having easy access to contraceptives including the more expensive newer pills that minimizes side affects that make women avoid using....the right way to reduce abortion rates....not the pro life patriarchal dictatorship of slavery and illegality.
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Post by pim on Aug 12, 2021 8:46:45 GMT 10
It’s “squeamish”. Just trying to help ... Grammar Nazi. <clicks heels>
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Post by Gort on Aug 12, 2021 10:47:24 GMT 10
Ursula Haverbeck (The real Gram ma Nazi)
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 12, 2021 14:04:51 GMT 10
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Post by caskur on Aug 13, 2021 2:30:44 GMT 10
New laws to stop anti-abortion toadies...
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 13, 2021 3:26:34 GMT 10
To support abortion is the same as supporting Eugenics.
Convince me otherwise.
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Post by ponto on Aug 13, 2021 8:05:04 GMT 10
Pro choice reduces abortion rates....Pro Life increases abortion rates.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 13, 2021 10:47:08 GMT 10
P5o choice reduces abortion rates....Pro Life increases abortion rates. ... I'm Pretty certain closing abortion clinics would reduce abortion rates significantly. Statistically, people will stop having abortions if there is no one who is certified to perform them. ...As we've seen during Covid restrictions, planned parenthood was closed down; abortion stats dropped.
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Post by Gort on Aug 13, 2021 10:53:06 GMT 10
P5o choice reduces abortion rates....Pro Life increases abortion rates. ... I'm Pretty certain closing abortion clinics would reduce abortion rates significantly. Statistically, people will stop having abortions if there is no one who is certified to perform them. ...As we've seen during Covid restrictions, planned parenthood was closed down; abortion stats dropped. So dangerous. There will be "backyard abortionists" starting up using coat hangers. What a terrible situation.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 13, 2021 10:55:05 GMT 10
... I'm Pretty certain closing abortion clinics would reduce abortion rates significantly. Statistically, people will stop having abortions if there is no one who is certified to perform them. ...As we've seen during Covid restrictions, planned parenthood was closed down; abortion stats dropped. So dangerous. There will be "backyard abortionists" starting up using coat hangers. What a terrible situation. That's a stupid argument. That's like saying if we don't legalize Crack Cocaine, people might obtain it on the streets! That can be applied to pretty much anything, in order to justify it.
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Post by Gort on Aug 13, 2021 10:58:32 GMT 10
So dangerous. There will be "backyard abortionists" starting up using coat hangers. What a terrible situation. That's a stupid argument. That's like saying if we don't legalize Crack Cocaine, people might obtain it on the streets! That can be applied to pretty much anything, in order to justify it. You've just enhanced my argument. Drugs like crack cocaine are illegal - but the demand never goes away. Same with abortions. The demand will never go away.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 13, 2021 11:05:45 GMT 10
That's a stupid argument. That's like saying if we don't legalize Crack Cocaine, people might obtain it on the streets! That can be applied to pretty much anything, in order to justify it. You've just enhanced my argument. Drugs like crack cocaine are illegal - but the demand never goes away. Same with abortions. The demand will never go away. I disagree, the demand for crack never goes away because of its addictive properties. I've never heard of someone addicted to abortions. Once the supply is diminished, so too will the demand. There will always be a black market, but you have that with anything made illegal.
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Post by Gort on Aug 13, 2021 11:14:54 GMT 10
Anyone who thinks abortions will actually decrease if clinics are shut is nuts.
Abortions will still happen just as much but will be done unsafely and in secret.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Aug 13, 2021 11:19:54 GMT 10
Anyone who thinks abortions will actually decrease if clinics are shut is nuts. Abortions will still happen just as much but will be done unsafely and in secret. Yep, just like the activities of organized crime. But I won't endorse those either.
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Post by Gort on Aug 13, 2021 11:21:18 GMT 10
Anyone who thinks abortions will actually decrease if clinics are shut is nuts. Abortions will still happen just as much but will be done unsafely and in secret. Yep, just like the activities of organized crime. But I won't endorse those either. Just like the prohibition days. Did that stop people drinking alcohol?
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