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Post by Occam's Spork on Dec 5, 2020 2:09:01 GMT 10
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Post by pim on Dec 5, 2020 5:15:25 GMT 10
I have no problem with someone mounting an argument against abiogenesis. It is a debate after all and the guy is right to say that abiogenesis is not a proven fact. But then nobody reputable is really trying to argue that way. Unless you consider the paleo “atheist” bums who troll this board to be “reputable”. Personally I consider them to be disreputable bandwagon hoppers who give respectable atheists a bad name.
I’m afraid the guy lost me when he framed the case for abiogenesis as some sort of malicious conspiracy by disreputable scientists. Sorry! I don’t buy it! That there is a legitimate debate to be had is unquestionable and good people can take opposing and respectful positions as they do on moral/ethical questions such as abortion, divorce and same sex marriage. I don’t know of anyone who would regard abiogenesis as an empirical proven fact. I’m not qualified to make the case for/against abiogenesis but the way I see it, it’s an open question. If life is found on other planets, and Mars is the prime candidate for investigation in this regard, that would mean not necessarily abiogenesis but certainly a different and separate genesis - or Genesis! It would change the whole conversation about how life gets started in the most profound way. Most satisfyingly it wouldn’t “prove” anything, just raise a whole lot of new and deeper questions. I’m always suspicious when people come up with “answers”. It seems that these days everyone claims to have the Answer. Have you noticed that whenever somebody sets up a consultancy they invariably have the word “Solutions” in their business name? What hubris. For myself I prefer questions.
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