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Post by Occam's Spork on May 29, 2020 4:26:05 GMT 10
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Post by KTJ on May 29, 2020 19:56:06 GMT 10
So what created your god delusion?
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Post by fat on May 29, 2020 20:33:10 GMT 10
The fool can ask questions which even the genius cannot answer.
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Post by Occam's Spork on May 30, 2020 2:19:20 GMT 10
So what created your god delusion? ...Perhaps it evolved, through millions of years of macroevolution?
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Post by Gort on May 30, 2020 12:13:36 GMT 10
More like micro-evolution. Mind you, your wife is supposed to have descended from a rib-bone according to your religion.
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Post by Occam's Spork on May 31, 2020 2:14:47 GMT 10
More like micro-evolution. Mind you, your wife is supposed to have descended from a rib-bone according to your religion. Please try to pay attention, as I have already explained this to you before: The Hebrew word used for 'rib' in the KJV was a mistranslation, they translated it as tsela(rib) when actually it was tsala (curve) Coincidently our modern understanding of genetic demonstrates a human can be created by way of the “helix curve”. According to Strong's Hebrew Lexicon the word rib, Hebrew צלע 'tsela' (Strong’s 6763) , side or rib from the primitive root word of צלע 'tsala' (Strong’s 6760) which means curve, limp in the sense of bowing, to arc, as in pray. God said Adam’s curve. In other words from Adam’s Double Helix (Curve) DNA. Neat, huh?
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Post by Gort on May 31, 2020 11:01:14 GMT 10
LOL A rib is not a rib. A day is not a day. How convenient. Was the Ark not an Ark? The whale not a whale? The loaves and fish not loaves and fish?
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jun 2, 2020 1:26:40 GMT 10
LOL A rib is not a rib. A day is not a day. How convenient. Was the Ark not an Ark? The whale not a whale? The loaves and fish not loaves and fish? How about... ...simply reading the Bible without eisegetical biases? P.S. Your Bible literacy is appalling. The Bible says, "Great Fish", not "Whale". The whale is a surface interpretation of the actual Hebrew text, (much like what is happening with your insistence on the word 'rib'.) I'd ask you to look into it yourself, but I know you won't. You are content in your ignorance, and would rather criticize than observe objectively.
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Post by pim on Jun 2, 2020 8:02:29 GMT 10
Occam, Matthew 7:6 Enough said!
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Post by Gort on Jun 2, 2020 11:20:30 GMT 10
Was it a "great fish" or was it not a "great fish"? Was it a "Pillar of salt" or was it not a "Pillar of salt"? Was it a "virgin birth" or not a "virgin birth"? Which bits are "real" ... which bits are not?
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jun 28, 2020 7:35:30 GMT 10
Was it a "great fish" or was it not a "great fish"? Was it a "Pillar of salt" or was it not a "Pillar of salt"? Was it a "virgin birth" or not a "virgin birth"? Which bits are "real" ... which bits are not? The Bible doesn't change; our understanding of it does. Perhaps you should make more of an effort to understand.
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Post by KTJ on Jun 28, 2020 7:44:27 GMT 10
The bible contains a lot of nasty shit.
Including instructions on keeping slaves.
I guess the primitive savages who wrote it (their fairy tales) could never have imagined a more enlightened age way, way into the future, eh?
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jun 30, 2020 20:26:56 GMT 10
The bible contains a lot of nasty shit.
Including instructions on keeping slaves.
I guess the primitive savages who wrote it (their fairy tales) could never have imagined a more enlightened age way, way into the future, eh? Perhaps the Bible wasn't written to make us feel good about ourselves, rather to point out exactly how lost humanity actually is.
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Post by KTJ on Jun 30, 2020 20:48:00 GMT 10
Ah, Sporky now fancies himself as a spin doctor on behalf of a primitive book written by primitive people.
Perhaps he should ask Donald J. Trump for a job so he can spout spin on his behalf, eh?
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Post by pim on Jul 1, 2020 0:37:15 GMT 10
KTJ it’s a bit rich of you to characterise Occam as a “spin doctor”. You’re so repetitive when you come to troll this board that you really haven’t varied your own spin doctoring for the past ten years or however long this board has existed. Actually no, on second thoughts it’s unfair to spin doctors to characterise your Religion Board trolling as “spin doctoring”. Dishonest and disingenuous as spin doctoring might be, at least a bit of creativity and inventiveness is involved in “spinning” a line to make black seem white and to make squares look like circles. But with you it’s always the same boring predictable stodge.
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Post by KTJ on Jul 1, 2020 15:36:09 GMT 10
Very predictable … Pim yet again rushes to the defence of the fundy known as Sporky.
He obviously thinks Sporky isn't able to stand on his own two feet, so needs someone to lean on for moral support.
Well actually, that is true … Sporky can't stand on his own two feet … he needs the crux of religion to stand upright.
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Post by Gort on Jul 1, 2020 16:34:45 GMT 10
Very predictable … Pim yet again rushes to the defence of the fundy known as Sporky.
He obviously thinks Sporky isn't able to stand on his own two feet, so needs someone to lean on for moral support.
Well actually, that is true … Sporky can't stand on his own two feet … he needs the crux of religion to stand upright. That'd be crutch.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jul 1, 2020 23:45:25 GMT 10
The bible contains a lot of nasty shit.
Including instructions on keeping slaves.
I guess the primitive savages who wrote it (their fairy tales) could never have imagined a more enlightened age way, way into the future, eh? How Bizzare it is to borrow moral laws FROM the Bible, to criticize the Bible. Well then as a naturalist you've painted yourself into a bit of a corner then... 1. If God does not exist what is your explanation to the origin of the moral code between right and wrong? 2. If the moral code has no origin, it means the moral code you follow today is completely man-made. 3. If it is completely man-made, it means what you believe to be right or wrong is not necessarily right or wrong because it is not considered absolute truth as in the case of Christians believing the Bible as absolute truth or Muslims believing the Quran to be absolute truth. 4. And so, technically I could murder your pet or steal chickens and you wouldn't be able to seek justice because it could be right according to the subjective man-made moral code that I follow. 5. So if you are following a man-made moral code, how do you then assert that slavery is wrong? You are just stating a subjective opinion; and I'd be free to simply accept or reject it. Shutting out other forms of knowledge doesn't make one more intelligent; it makes them less so.
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Post by KTJ on Jul 2, 2020 9:03:02 GMT 10
One does not need an imaginary god delusion inside one's mind, nor a bullshit religion book to know the difference between right and wrong.
We all like to be treated in a decent manner, so if you treat everybody else how you'd like to be treated, there is your omnipotent moral law.
No religious bullshit needed whatsoever. And no need of a religious crutch to lean on.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jul 2, 2020 9:33:29 GMT 10
One does not need an imaginary god delusion inside one's mind, nor a bullshit religion book to know the difference between right and wrong.
Good. Then provide a basis for it. Naturalism maintains 'survival of the fittest'. So technically it isn't wrong, from a Darwinist perspective to treat people as means to an end. Why then would you maintain that slavery was wrong?
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Post by KTJ on Jul 2, 2020 9:52:48 GMT 10
You post so much religion-infused piffle, that this would have to be much more entertaining than anything you vomit out of your mouth…
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jul 2, 2020 9:58:12 GMT 10
We all like to be treated in a decent manner, so if you treat everybody else how you'd like to be treated, there is your omnipotent moral law. Except that is a self-serving motive which isn't moral at all. You'd only treat someone with respect because you expect to get it in return?
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Post by KTJ on Jul 2, 2020 10:04:01 GMT 10
I repeat: you don't need some bullshit religious book and a god delusion to lean on as a crutch to be moral.
Treat others as you'd like to be treated yourself and that is the only morality you need.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Jul 2, 2020 11:05:00 GMT 10
Treat others as you'd like to be treated yourself and that is the only morality you need. [/size] [/quote] Once again you are borrowing from the Bible to criticize the Bible... That is Matthew 7:12. You are quoting the Bible and you don't even know it, lol. 🤣 You call it a "bullshit book..." Until it serves your purposes in an argument, eh?
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Post by KTJ on Jul 2, 2020 12:03:10 GMT 10
If you are claiming that is in your bullshit book, then whoever wrote that in the bullshit book stole something which was already common sense to many human beings.
You're a moron, Sporky. And an arrogant one at that too!!
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