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Post by KTJ on Apr 27, 2020 20:17:52 GMT 10
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Post by Stellar on Apr 28, 2020 8:16:06 GMT 10
To have any credibility, the WHO is going to have to investigate the source of this virus. Unfortunately they don't appear to have the authority, let alone the will, to demand China's compliance with any investigation. At the moment the only thing we can hope for is their co-operation and that doesn't seem to be forthcoming. One thing is certain, either way - whether this virus came from a wet market or worse, was released from a laboratory, China is not going to come out of this above suspicion and their belligerent attitude to anyone querying the ethics or dangers of live animal markets doesn't fill the global community with any confidence that they will ever do the right thing. Even Bill Shorten seems to agree!
Scientists linked to COVID-19 investigation studied live bats in Australia
Gavin Fernando
Two Chinese scientists being investigated over the origins of COVID-19 studied live bats in Australia in research funded by Australian and Chinese governments.
Five Eyes intelligence agencies are looking at the work of Peng Zhou, as senior scientist at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, to determine whether COVID-19 originated from a wet market or may have been released from a Wuhan laboratory, The Daily Telegraph reports.
The Australian government’s position is the virus most likely originated from the Wuhan wet markets but it is possible it was accidentally released from a laboratory.
Speaking on Today this morning, Bill Shorten said the research is “not unusual”.
“I think the sabre-rattling by China, merely because Australia has the temerity to suggest an independent investigation… I think China needs to step back a bit. All the people want to know is how did it happen?” he said.
“This virus has changed Australia forever, and it has had dreadful health consequences, and it has had a massive economic consequence. I think the Morrison government is right to call for an inquiry. Labor is backing it. It is not going to compromise our ultimate engagement with China. So, I think everyone should take a chill pill, including – dare I say it – some of the commentators from China."
Environment Minister Sussan Ley said she would not comment on the Telegraph report, but added: “Our scientists and the work they do at animal health laboratories have a fantastic track record. It's extraordinary the work they do.
“Of course I'm concerned about the spread of disease in overseas wet markets. Lots of questions to be answered there about the hygiene. Bringing wild animals too close to humans and the pathogens that can pass between them is always a problem. Something does need to be done in those overseas wet markets.”
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Post by KTJ on Apr 28, 2020 8:30:08 GMT 10
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Post by bender on Apr 28, 2020 9:34:20 GMT 10
On the face of it, China has every right to fall back on its national sovereignty and reject any calls for an independent investigation or enquiry.
There's a lot of precedence for this by pretty much every country in the world. In Australia our Government seems to delight in rejecting any oversight into our implementation of the International Treaties we have signed and ratified into Asylum Seekers or indeed into our treatment of those seeking asylum in Australia.
Did the USA cooperate with any International Investigations into why the evidence about Saddam's WMD's was so utterly wrong?
And our Government would certainly not allow any independent or international enquiry into our culpability in terms of Greenhouse Emissions would they (and as bad as the worldwide impact of COVID-19 has been it is nothing compared to what the world faces in the decades ahead as a result of Climate Change).
That's on the face of it.
The other side of it is that we live in a Globalised Economy and the PRC has been one of the major beneficiaries of that Globalisation. It has carried nearly half a billion Chinese out of intergenerational poverty and into the middle class and it has done so in barely two generations. If the PRC cannot provide answers (or at the very least unvarnished raw data) then they put that future cooperation at risk.
Nations around the world are going to have a renewed interest and effort into sovereign self sufficiency and the only way to make that work is to increase tariffs on imported goods so as to give domestic manufacturers the confidence to invest in new plant and equipment. China ends up being the biggest loser in that equation.
China's attitude in trying to deflect blame and now attempting to muscle up and link future trade to Australia's insistence that there be an international enquiry into how this all began is unhelpful. This pandemic more then anything else has harmed trust. Even as Australia moves closer and closer to domestically eradicating this virus, our borders are going to remain closed until such time as its eradicated everywhere else or a vaccine becomes available. Before they can reopen we need to be able to trust other nations when they say they're all clear.
Right now no ones going to believe China if they say it.
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Post by KTJ on Apr 30, 2020 19:52:01 GMT 10
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Post by Stellar on May 2, 2020 8:56:21 GMT 10
From OTR
Tim McKeon (Facebook)
WELL, WELL, WELL!! Isn’t it just an interesting coincidence that Remdesivir is made by Gilead and is the apparent “CURE” for COVID-19....and here’s where it gets interesting. China holds the patent on the drug through an agreement with Gilead’s drug patent sharing subsidiary branch called UNITAID, who has an office near Wuhan and you’ll never guess who are the main financial investors in UNITAID....none other than George Soros, Bill & Melinda Gates, and WHO. I know what your thinking! It’s just all a coincidence isn’t it! Oh, don’t let me forget the other coincidence that Gilead and UNITAID were financial supporters of Hillary Clinton. Oh, silly me I forgot one more coincidence....Fauci was the one authorizing millions to be sent to The Wuhan Institute of Virology specifically for the “study” of Coronaviruses......I sure am thankful it’s all just coincidences! Nothing to see here just keep moving along....
The Best Coincidences are always found when you follow the money...
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Post by KTJ on May 2, 2020 11:06:38 GMT 10
From OTR Tim McKeon (Facebook) WELL, WELL, WELL!! Isn’t it just an interesting coincidence that Remdesivir is made by Gilead and is the apparent “CURE” for COVID-19....and here’s where it gets interesting. China holds the patent on the drug through an agreement with Gilead’s drug patent sharing subsidiary branch called UNITAID, who has an office near Wuhan and you’ll never guess who are the main financial investors in UNITAID....none other than George Soros, Bill & Melinda Gates, and WHO. I know what your thinking! It’s just all a coincidence isn’t it! Oh, don’t let me forget the other coincidence that Gilead and UNITAID were financial supporters of Hillary Clinton. Oh, silly me I forgot one more coincidence....Fauci was the one authorizing millions to be sent to The Wuhan Institute of Virology specifically for the “study” of Coronaviruses......I sure am thankful it’s all just coincidences! Nothing to see here just keep moving along.... The Best Coincidences are always found when you follow the money... So ……… now you've joined the stupid, boofhead, Trump-supporting conspiracy theorists?
Hilarious, the Flat-Earthers will welcome you to the fold, Stellar.(click on the cartoon)
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