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Post by Gort on Jan 24, 2021 21:06:31 GMT 10
That little shit Shorty is at it again. Having fucked up Rudd and Gillard, he is now going after Albo. Perhaps Labor needs to expel the little ratbag? Bill Shorten attacks Anthony Albanese’s ‘tiny’ policy agendaADESHOLA ORE REPORTER Former Labor leader Bill Shorten has reignited internal party divisions, warning his successor Anthony Albanese’s “tiny” policy agenda will not win the next election.The current Opposition Leader has refused to outline major policies, including a medium-term emissions reduction target as he faces scrutiny from within his party. Josh Frydenberg declared the “drums are beating very loudly” on Mr Albanese‘s leadership and the “game of (leadership) musical chairs” had begun. Mr Shorten used a speech in Melbourne on Sunday to set up an alternative approach for the Labor Party and called for an opposition “that stands for something”. “We must be a party of Labor that stands for the real world concerns of working men and women,” he said. Mr Shorten, who led Labor to two election losses, also acknowledged the working-class vote loss — calling it an issue at the core of Labor’s identity and mission — but said that Scott Morrison was beatable. “We need to get oxygen to talk about issues of work, workers, families, and economic advancement”. “I wonder how working-class voters feel about our priorities when environmental issues claim a near-monopoly of our time in the media and squeeze out industrial issues.” Mr Shorten delivered the speech on Sunday afternoon at the launch of a collection of essays by ALP Right faction members at a Melbourne bookstore. A senior Labor Left MP has already hit back at Mr Shorten, saying his “lecture” to Mr Albanese was “pretty rich given he could never sell a coherent policy message and took us to one of our worst (election) results in history”.
“It’s also incredible that Shorten has destabilised every (Labor) leader since entering parliament in 2007 and this time in the middle of a global pandemic,” the MP, who asked to remain anonymous, said.
“I’m not sure why anyone would think that the bloke who tanked our vote in the suburbs and regions would be the authority on how we win back the suburbs and the regions,” the senior Labor MP said.On Sunday, Mr Albanese vowed that Labor would reveal its full policy agenda “well before the election.” The Opposition Leader reaffirmed Labor’s commitment to a net zero by 2050 emissions target, but refused to say whether the party would adopt medium-term emissions reduction targets for 2030 and 2035. “The honest answer is that we’ll determine our policy based upon announcing it once, not announcing it and changing it. If we’d announced a policy early on, then we would have had to have changed it. Because circumstances change in terms of the International debate,” ” Mr Albanese told Sky News on Sunday. “What’s happened in the last year is that we’ve had the Biden administration elected recently, and they’ll have a conference earlier in the first half of this year, and then we’ll have the Glasgow conference, of course, the COP meeting later this year.” Mr Albanese foreshadowed that Labor would ramp up pressure on the government to commit to medium-term targets to take to the key UN climate conference in Glasgow in November, despite Scott Morrison ruling this out. The Prime Minister told The Weekend Australian there was no need to rush to sign targets to achieve net zero emissions by 2050 and reiterated the Coalition’s priority of tackling climate change through developing technology rather than committing to new goals. “I would expect that in the lead up to Glasgow we might not be talking about the government having a 2030 target, we might be talking about the government having a 2035 target because that’s what Paris allows for, a continual change in terms of that,” Mr Albanese said. “What we know is this, and this is a principle that we take, we need net zero emissions by 2050. We need targets that are consistent with achieving that. And that action on climate change is good for jobs, it‘s good for lowering emissions, and it’s good for lowering power prices.” Greens leader Adam Bandt said Mr Morrison’s refusal to commit to 2030 or 2035 targets ahead of Glasgow was an “untenable position that can’t last the year.” The Australia Institute executive director Ben Oquis warned that Australia would face a “tsunami of diplomatic pressures on climate change” this year. “It will be untenable for the Prime Minister not to adopt net zero by 2050 and more ambitious interim targets as Australia comes under unrelenting pressure from the new Biden administration and the UK conservative government.” Mr Albanese has also not ruled out taking Labor’s controversial negative-gearing policy to the next election. In 2019, Labor took to the election a pledge to overhaul negative gearing policy by halving the capital gains tax discount for investments and only allowing new investment properties to qualify for negative gearing. “Everyone will know fully what our revenue policies are and what our expenditure policies are well before the election,” he said. Mr Albanese also flagged that Labor was open to raising the superannuation rate to 15 per cent.
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Post by ponto on Jan 24, 2021 22:12:53 GMT 10
The people liked Rudd because he had ideas that people could agree with...what did Labor do, they got rid of him, and the people that were involved in the Rudd, Gillard, Shorten era should go....as Shorten, Fitzgibbon and others scramble over one another to get the leaders job is self driven ego fuckwitism. Goes back to what I said earlier...the coalition at the next will beat themselves silly being the new climate warriors, but it will be a pretense...hawks in dove feathers.
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Post by ponto on Jan 26, 2021 3:11:38 GMT 10
Policies comes first ...then politics follows.
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Post by pim on Jan 26, 2021 10:39:03 GMT 10
Oh God I wish that were true, Ponto. I really honestly wish that were true. If good policy really did equal good politics in real life then the world would be a much better place. I used to believe it and I mourn my loss of innocence in discovering that you can have the most wonderful and enlightened policies but it doesn't matter a damn if you fuck up the politics. For example I loved the policy platform that Labor took to the last election and I don't buy it that it had to be all about "charisma" and "marketing" and that's why Labor lost. Shorten Labor won all the arguments but still lost the election - narrowly but a loss is a loss. The difference between a narrow loss and a landslide loss is that a narrow loss still leaves you with a platform from which you can launch a credible bid at the next election whereas a landslide loss means you approach the following election coming from way behind and with a smaller talent pool of corporate memory and experience of government. But just staying with the 2019 election, it was an election that everyone, including the Liberals, expected Morrison to lose. He won by getting the politics right even though he was a policy-free vacuum. By contrast Labor was policy rich and with a front bench that ran rings around anyone that the Coalition could put up. I have to hand it to Morrison, he saw the chink in Labor's armour and went for it. Labor's fundamental mistake was not that they had Bill Shorten as leader. Bill Shorten took Labor from the (political! - not policy) disasters of Rudd/Gillard/Rudd to becoming credible again. He united the party, ended the Rudd/Gillard civil war and made his leadership of the party a three stage process: politics, policy, people - in other words stage 1 was to end the civil war and unite the party, stage two was to develop a message to take to the Australian people. That's policy! It was the biggest step of all and I was there at the 2015 national conference which stitched a lot of the Shorten policy agenda together. Trickles puts up a lot of Murdoch-inspired Shorten-hating propaganda and spams the board with it. I tend not to respond because I realise nobody else really takes much notice of Trickles, but he does produce a lot of "white noise". Stage three in the Shorten leadership's Whitlamite "three Ps" strategy, the "people" strategy, was where he bombed out badly. The truth is that while Labor had the right policy message, what was being heard by the Australian people was an entirely different message in which Scotty from Marketing saw his opportunity. I have to hand it to Scott Morrison, it was pure genius on his part and not everyone could pull it off.
What Scott Morrison understood was that Labor's fundamental weakness was the assumption by everyone, and I mean everyone - and that includes Trickles as well as myself - that Shorten Labor would win the 2019 election. Labor was so convinced that it was on the cusp of forming a Shorten Government that it basically "banked" a 2019 election victory. In so doing it upended the basic truism of Australian electoral politics which is that oppositions don't win elections, governments lose them. By "banking" the 2019 election, Shorten Labor gifted "underdog" status to Scott Morrison and Morrison went for the Labor jugular. He made Labor the issue, in particular Bill Shorten, in two steps:
Step one: neutralise the issue of your own flakey front bench by putting your Ministerial colleagues in witness protection and sitting on the more fruitcake members of your backbench (yes Craig Kelly we're looking at you) and telling them to STFU. The result was that you heard almost nothing from the Lib/Nat ministry. There was one occasion when Michaelia Cash escaped from the reservation and almost spoiled Scotty from Marketing's carefully calibrated alarmist spiel about "utes" and "Labor is coming for your weekend" with her over the top hysteria but she was muzzled quick smart and locked up again. ScoMo made his 2019 election campaign a one man show. And he did it brilliantly. No sense in denying it. And Shorten Labor was caught flat footed.
Step two: make Shorten Labor the issue. In so doing Scotty from Marketing turned the usual electoral scenario on its head whereby the government is the issue. Scotty from Marketing turned the Coalition's policy-free predicament into a plus by turning Labor's policy-rich programme into a minus, and it was all encapsulated in the phrase - which was pure Scotty from Marketing: the Bill you can't afford.
Note that well: Morrison won on no policies but by Christ he got the retail politics right.
Ponto I wish with all my heart that "Good policy makes good politics" was as true as the aphorisms in the Sermon on the Mount. I still think it's the best principle to operate on in that you should strive to have your politics informed by and based on good policy. The difference between policy and retail politics is that policy = the product and retail politics = the sales technique you use to sell your product. You have to get them both right. Shorten Labor scored two out of three and in the game he was playing he needed a perfect score of three out of three. He got the internal Labor politics right by ending the civil war and unifying the party (a mammoth undertaking which I will always give him credit for) and he got the policy settings right such that what he took to the Australian people in 2019 was the best and most comprehensive policy platform since the Whitlam 1972 "It's Time" campaign and the Bob Hawke campaign of 1983. I was proud to be a part of that campaign and I'm gratified to see that Albo hasn't jettisoned the Shorten programme, apart from the franking credits. But Shorten fell short on the third one which was the retail stuff. By contrast Scott Morrison gave the retail stuff the full Scotty from Marketing treatment. ScoMo played a different game and with different rules. There was nothing of the Whitlamite "Three Ps" that Shorten was seeking to apply. With Scotty from Marketing it's all spin and marketing sleight of hand. It's the retail stuff and nothing else. Worked for him in 2019 but as a permanent strategy?
With Albo Labor I don't agree with junking the franking credits but I understand why they did it. But apart from the franking credits, Albo has built on the Shorten programme. We haven't heard much from Albo over the past 12 months. During WW2 you didn't hear much from Clement Attlee in the UK either and Churchill bestrode British politics like a colossus. The phrase was "there's a war on, you know!" and last year the overwhelming feeling was "there's a pandemic on, you know!" And yet after WW2 Attlee Labour swept the polls in the UK and the result was the NHS which remains the jewel in the crown of the British welfare state more than 70 years after it was established. Right now the pandemic is subjecting the NHS to its greatest test. If it survives the pandemic it'll go on indefinitely into the future. What a proud Labour legacy. Here in Australia during 2020 Albo behaved like the statesman that he is: he accepted that there are no brownie points for opposition leaders who seek to make genuine national emergencies into a political football and he put the country before his own political fortunes. Jobseeker, Jobkeeper - these were Labor initiatives which Morrison at first rejected and then adopted reluctantly. And then took the credit for! That's politics.
The thing is that Albo right now is in the same position, politically, that Morrison was in before the 2019 election: nobody expects him to win the next election and the Liberals have caught the hubris bug. Right now Morrison is like Churchill during WW2: he believes that he bestrides the political landscape like a colossus, and so he does! If an election were held today it would be the Pandemic Elections which Scotty from Marketing would win in a landslide. And here's the sting in the tail for Scott Morrison: he has to make sure that the vaccine rollout happens with no hitches or glitches. I should imagine that the word has come down to health professionals and health bureaucrats from on high: the vaccine rollout will be a perfect operation and any health official who stuffs up the organisation of the rollout will be skinned alive and we'll have their guts for garters. The expectation, nurtured by Scott Morrison - and he was wrong to do so, among the public is that once you're vaccinated you've become invulnerable to COVID-19 and they want the vaccine rollout to happen. They want the pandemic to be over. Who doesn't! Scotty from Marketing wants to go to the people with the pandemic all dealt with and in the past tense - and who can blame him. But that would make it not a Pandemic Election but a What-Comes-Next election. And that is something entirely different. If Scott Morrison wants to fight the next election on the Government's record on the pandemic he'd better go to the people now. After the pandemic he may well find that Albo Labor is a dark horse that he's underestimated as surely as Shorten Labor underestimated Scott Morrison in 2019.
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Post by Gort on Jan 26, 2021 12:11:13 GMT 10
... What Scott Morrison understood was that Labor's fundamental weakness was the assumption by everyone, and I mean everyone - and that includes Trickles as well as myself - that Shorten Labor would win the 2019 election... I did, right up until the day he announced that atrocious, callous shit policy to whack the poorest self-funded retirees. I called it on that day. I said to mark the date on the calendar, the day that Shorty lost the election was the day he made that announcement.I was right wasn't I? Here is that very post: Wow!! Shorty has just lost a large chunk of the grey vote. Mark this date on your calendar ... Tuesday 13th march 2018. The day that Shorty lost the next election. Many people rely on the annual tax return to offset their rates bill or to fund holiday air fares. Rather than "hitting the rich" ... this move will seriously impact retirees, many of whom are low income families. Shorten hits shareholders with plan for $59 billion revenue grabLabor will target more than 1 million Australian taxpayers who own shares in a $59 billion revenue push that would take its heaviest toll on retirees, as Bill Shorten wages war on “unfair” cash refunds and ramps up attacks on the rich. In a bold move that hurts wealthier voters, the Opposition Leader will reveal plans to help balance the budget by cancelling cash refunds worth an average of $5000 a year to taxpayers who own shares and claim tax credits on their dividends. The stunning decision takes aim at more affluent taxpayers in a “hit the rich” policy that is certain to spark a political fight over a group of voters still reeling from Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s move to scale back superannuation tax breaks two years ago. Opposition Leader Bill Shorten will announce another plank in Labor's economic policy on Tuesday. Photo: Dominic Lorrimer As Labor fights to hold the marginal seat of Batman against a threat from the Greens this weekend, Mr Shorten will blast the Coalition for creating a “loophole” in 2001 on the tax credits paid on dividends. Mr Shorten opens the new fight over shareholder credits after his long row with Mr Turnbull over company tax cuts, where he has attacked the “big end of town” for not paying enough tax. Labor is calculating the political pain from the bold new plan will be worthwhile when it uses the huge revenue gain to pay for policies at the next election - including personal income tax cuts. The Labor policy, seen by Fairfax Media, is aimed at raising $5.6 billion in 2020 and a similar amount every year, equivalent to about $4,800 on average each year for every taxpayer affected. This is based on Labor assumptions the reforms would hit about 8 per cent of taxpayers, or around 1.17 million individuals and superannuation funds - including 200,000 self-managed super funds. In a key pledge, Mr Shorten will promise to continue with dividend imputation for millions of taxpayers and would only change the rules for those whose taxable income is so low they qualify for cash refunds. “Everyone will still be able to use imputation credits to reduce their tax - but not to claim cash refunds,” he says in a draft of his remarks to a policy summit on Tuesday. “Reforming the system to eliminate this concession will save the budget $11.4 billion over the final two years of the current forward estimates and $59 billion over the medium term.” Under dividend imputation rules, Australians are given franking credits on the dividends they receive for the shares they own, in order to avoid company profits being taxed twice. Because the company has already paid tax on its earnings, its dividend payments to shareholders come with credits that reduce the individual’s tax bill every year. Most workers have incomes that are high enough to ensure they still pay tax after the dividend credits are counted. But when the individual has little or no income other than dividends, he or she ends up being owed money by the Australian Tax Office and then receiving it as a cash refund. Former prime minister Paul Keating, who introduced dividend imputation as treasurer in 1987, did not include the cash refund in the original scheme. The cash payments only began after 2001 when the Howard government, enjoying a substantial budget surplus, decided to help the relatively small group who claimed they were owed money from the ATO. The Coalition policy cost the budget $550 million at the time but the bill has blown out to $5.6 billion a year because of the rise in the number of shareholders and dividend payments. Mr Shorten will tell the Chifley Research Centre today, in a policy move advanced by shadow treasurer Chris Bowen, that nobody will “pay more tax” because the cash payments will stop. “I want to emphasise a few important points here. Firstly, this change only affects a very small number of shareholders who currently have no tax liability and use their imputation credits to receive a cash refund,” he says in his draft speech. “These people will no longer receive a cash refund - but they will not be paying any additional tax." “Let me repeat that: a small number of people will no longer receive a cash refund - but they will not be paying any additional tax.” www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/shorten-hits-shareholders-with-plan-for-59-billion-revenue-grab-20180312-p4z40d.html I also pointed out even earlier that Shorty was consistently in the dead zone as Preferred PM. Albo is displaying the same problem. If he can't get his rating to at least 40% as Preferred PM, he is toast.
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Post by pim on Jan 26, 2021 13:38:52 GMT 10
Margaritas ante porcos
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Post by Gort on Jan 26, 2021 13:57:10 GMT 10
Ah yes ... the "pearls" from Pimbotomy ...On Bill Shorten :"Bill Shorten will be PM, and will be PM for a long time." On Sam Dastyari :"Not the end for Sam. He's only sin binned himself for the duration of this parliament. The dogs are barking but the caravan will move on." On Human impact on Earth :"The planet isn't at risk from humans." On the dual citizenship issue :"If Turnbull goes ahead and presses the button marked "nuclear option" he'll unleash a political holocaust that will bury ... Malcolm Turnbull. Meanwhile, Turnbull faces a horror scenario in Bennelong." On the SSM plebiscite :"Personally I'm opposed to the plebiscite but then I'm not a member of the federal Labor Caucus. You may still get your plebiscite although I doubt it." "The plebiscite is dead. We're not gonna hold a plebiscite on same sex marriage in this country." On the Labor Party :"The Labor Party is not a Democratic Socialist party."
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Post by ponto on Jan 26, 2021 16:35:53 GMT 10
People have to have good trust in the leader of a political party to accept that polices are for the greater good.
While raking over ol' ground Shorto was brilliant as a off the cuff from the heart unionist speaker...that was when he was at his best, no scripted speech just genuine passion in what he was saying, then lost it when he was power broker then Labor leader.
It was the same with Gillard one could read in the body language that they appeared not that genuine in what they were promoting and saying,....those damn power, hungry factions can undermine any good or indeed great policynwhen they think it doesn't suit their interest. Just as the LNP undermined Turnbull on climate action.
While watching a Shorto Q&A program where he was there to answer questions for the audience and public prior to the failed 2019 election, it seemed to me Shorto was not explaining the franking credit tax rort to well, ..which essentially means corporate companies pay no tax as tax revenue, its all doled out to share holders having a great ol' self funded super earner while paying no taxes..."oh but we are not taking a government pension" while receiving government revenue more than a retiree pension,....anyhow back to Shorto who obviously tired of the continuing same media questioning on franking credits, over and over, became angry, short fused and failed the opportunity to answer properly what the removing of franking credits entailed, one could see by the audience who the fuck is this, which I think was his ultimate undoing at the election as the Murdoch pro conservative propaganda machine pounced with their fear campaign that had aged pensioners frightened who did not have shares or a managed fund...nor realised the franking credit policy was not back dated and the effect was on new share holders and their new self managed super funds..that message did not get across.
Franking credits should be for those that have paid taxes, not as entitlement for people who have structured their affairs to pay no tax...its public money being divested away from them, less money for schools, hospitals services and infrastructure in new technologies that will advance Australia...just as Americans were duped by Trump so they are being duped by the conservatives government...and I hope your right Pim and Albo can swing the next election his way...Australia should not have to endure the stench of looking after mates conservatism and the putrid freemarketeer of individualism greed is good and fuck the climate line ya pockets.
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Post by Gort on Jan 26, 2021 17:03:42 GMT 10
You just have to read this from Shorten's policy and ask yourself if hitting those on low incomes is really a Labor core value ... In a key pledge, Mr Shorten will promise to continue with dividend imputation for millions of taxpayers and would only change the rules for those whose taxable income is so low they qualify for cash refunds.
“Everyone will still be able to use imputation credits to reduce their tax - but not to claim cash refunds,” he says in a draft of his remarks to a policy summit on Tuesday.There is was in plain English. Smashing the lowest income self-funded retirees. What an ARSEHOLE. No wonder he lost. Good riddance to him.
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Post by ponto on Jan 26, 2021 19:12:08 GMT 10
Nothing like a cash bonus for paying no tax...the conservative way, pork barrel your votes while the poor pay the tax burden....no wonder poverty is increasing.
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Post by Gort on Jan 26, 2021 20:59:09 GMT 10
Have you heard of the tax free threshold Ponts?
Anyone earning under $18,000 odd bucks pays no tax ... unless ... if Shorty had won, people who earned their income from dividends.
Shorty's plan was a discriminatory hit on those low income retirees. That's why he lost.
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Post by ponto on Jan 26, 2021 22:12:26 GMT 10
Low income retirees on $18,000 pa ....pull the other one.
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Post by Gort on Jan 26, 2021 22:52:31 GMT 10
Low income retirees on $18,000 pa ....pull the other one. The Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) defines the poverty line as half the median household income of the total population. In Australia this translates to a single adult living on less than $426.30 a week. That equals $22,167 pa A retiree who qualifies for a tax refund i.e. earning around $18,000 odd is therefore living below the poverty line.
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Post by ponto on Jan 27, 2021 6:11:44 GMT 10
Low income self funded retirees are not really living below the poverty line...plenty of non self funded retirees without home ownership are...but for you its only the self funded retirees who are poor...returning franking credit scheme to what it was before Howards pork barreling the grey vote is just and commonsense.
Negative gearing and trust accounts needs reform as well.
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Post by Gort on Jan 27, 2021 8:08:45 GMT 10
Low income self funded retirees are not really living below the poverty line...plenty of non self funded retirees without home ownership are...but for you its only the self funded retirees who are poor...returning franking credit scheme to what it was before Howards pork barreling the grey vote is just and commonsense. Negative gearing and trust accounts needs reform as well. Negative gearing and trust accounts do need reform. Those affect the rich bums. Leave the truly poor self-funded retirees alone. It's not that difficult. Shorty; Bowen and Chalmers got it wrong. Big time.
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Post by ponto on Jan 27, 2021 9:35:40 GMT 10
Truly poor self funded retires is an oxy moron...they got it right that franking credits needs to return to how was under Keating, the cash payouts to those not paying tax is un fair to the rest of society...it needs to be fixed, its unsustainable with ever increasing self funded retirees...brought on by increasing the retirement age.
It's robbing from the people to pay the rich.
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Post by pim on Jan 27, 2021 10:23:01 GMT 10
This isn't a thread about a "civil war" within the Labor Party. There is no civil war. Trickles spots a policy debate (Labor does have them you know! It's what we do!) and shrieks "Civil War!" spamming the board with giant font and lurid c & p's. But I know what his game is: Trickles uses this thread as bait for Ponto to manipulate him into a game of "100 posts" so that Trickles can spam the board (he must spam; he needs to spam) with self-serving posts about franking credits so he can pretend that Bill Shorten is still leader of the Labor Party and Trickles can bore us all shitless about what a mean and nasty character Bill Shorten is and how he, Trickles, has made it his life's work to call Bill Shorten out.
Ponto it doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't matter what arguments you muster and it doesn't matter how logical and reasonable you strive to be. This isn't about "arguments" or "debate" or "logical" or "reasonable". This is about Trickles and his favourite obsession. Try to get between them and you get nowhere. Trickles is the only one left in the universe who hasn't realised that Bill Shorten is no longer leader of the Labor Party and he won't be leading Labor into the next election.
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Post by Gort on Jan 27, 2021 10:36:13 GMT 10
Gentle reader: Pimbotomy hates this Labor policy massive fail being exposed and hates it when Ponts gives oxygen to the exposure ... so he attempts to shut the subject down. Textbook Narcissist.
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Post by Gort on Jan 27, 2021 12:37:07 GMT 10
Speaking of the "cold war" raging internally for Labor ... Labor mood turns icy after Shorten’s speech lost in transitBy Stephen Brook and Samantha Hutchinson January 26, 2021 — 11.59pm It’s the tail end of the silly season before the nation goes back to work and it’s a total furnace out there. But inside federal Labor the thermostat is approaching Siberia. Labor’s former (but still ambitious) opposition leader Bill Shorten delivered a stump speech over the weekend taking aim at the party and leader Anthony Albanese’s “tiny policy” agenda. He might as well have said “tiny penis” for all the drama it has caused. Shorten took pains to point out he supported Albo, but the whole thing was manna from heaven for political hacks working a weekend shift in January. And then a curious thing happened. For reasons unknown, Shorten’s speech failed to materialise from Labor’s usually reliable press machine. For those outside the bubble, Labor’s press machine - run entirely from inside Albo’s office - is unfailingly reliable in circulating a transcript every time one of its MPs addresses a crowd, always shortly after delivery. And yet, Shorten’s speech at Reading’s bookshop in St Kilda remains MIA 36 hours on. Good mates: Anthony Albanese and Bill Shorten.CREDIT:JOHN SHAKESPEARE A spokesman for Anthony Albanese did not respond to questions regarding the omission on Tuesday. But those familiar with the backs-and-forth between Albo and Shorten’s teams said there was no chance the speech hadn’t been shared with the leader’s office. But look, it is still technically the holidays. Maybe someone forgot to push a button. Breaking awayOf course, a Mexican standoff over media matters between the Labor MPs’ offices is hardly new. Back when Shorten actually was opposition leader, Albanese refused to use the centralised media team and insisted on his own media team and a separate distribution list. Up until now Shorten has been a team player and used the centralised media system. But this could be changing. Don’t believe us? While the weekend’s blanket coverage of Shorten’s weekend shenanigans shows this is a completely redundant post, Shorten is advertising for a “communications adviser”. The adviser would “play an important role in the development and implementation of policies and communication strategies”. Decent pay within the range of $95,000 to $135,000 with up to $30,000 for additional work. Perhaps Albo better beef up his communications as well. www.theage.com.au/national/labor-mood-turns-icy-after-shorten-s-speech-lost-in-transit-20210126-p56wyo.html
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Post by ponto on Jan 27, 2021 15:24:52 GMT 10
Look at the civil war in the LNP and the Nats with McCormack and Joyce, also note how Berejeckyln does note condemn Craig Kelly for his Trumesque misinformation....and Pim is right all you are interested in is your charlatan media muck raking on Labor....failing to smell the fetid stench of the coalition shenanigan's wanting build coal fired power stations using public money, oh but you say fossils are here for a long time....yeah sure and rich people are poor sods.
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Post by Gort on Jan 27, 2021 15:40:56 GMT 10
How many times does it take? I've been trying to explain this to you since Mar 13th 2018 and you still don't geddit. There is a tax free threshold in Australia. If you earn less than $18,000 odd bucks, you pay no tax. To hit one class of person just because their income comes from dividends is a discriminatory policy that actually hurts the poorest retirees and lets the rich bums off scot-free. The people Shorty was going after were the lowest income ones. By definition. Is that a Labor core value? To go after the lowest income earners? Read it again: In a key pledge, Mr Shorten will promise to continue with dividend imputation for millions of taxpayers and would only change the rules for those whose taxable income is so low they qualify for cash refunds.
“Everyone will still be able to use imputation credits to reduce their tax - but not to claim cash refunds,” he says in a draft of his remarks to a policy summit on Tuesday.There is was in plain English. Smashing the lowest income self-funded retirees. What an ARSEHOLE.
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Post by Gort on Jan 27, 2021 15:44:23 GMT 10
As for fossil fuels ... and I'm no fan of coal. Natural gas is the obvious transition fuel ... When the blackouts start when renewables can't cope with demand ... just watch the people jump off the bandwagon then.
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Post by ponto on Jan 28, 2021 4:27:07 GMT 10
Such is conservatives beliefs that the human race cannot survive without God given coal and its gas...care not for the devastating consequences on maintaining that fossil belief.
Conservatives said the SA Tesla battery couldn't be built within a year and would fail...So if you want to carry forth with the transfer of ions to the negative pole on the battery then you obviously have been brainwashed by their propaganda...what they said cannot be done is being done.
Your backing a team that wants to use public money to build coal fired power stations...dinosaur thinking that will be charged with current stupidity.
When are you going to hop of the conservative band wagon and come back to your senses..?
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Post by pim on Jan 28, 2021 7:16:56 GMT 10
And it’s the truth. Accept it and move on. There comes a time, Ponto, that you have to accept in your dealings with a particular individual that it is what it is, you stop trying and you move on.
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Post by Gort on Jan 28, 2021 7:23:54 GMT 10
See what I mean gentle reader: Pimbotomy hates this Labor policy massive fail being exposed and hates it when Ponts gives oxygen to the exposure ... so he attempts to shut the subject down. Textbook Narcissist.
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